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[NotHereToPlayGames]

You are smarter than that!

That list is not a list of where to witness CNAME Cloaking and you know that!

Those are THIRD-PARTY CDNs, those are NOT first-party URLs!

www.google.com is the first-party URL.

That URL doesn't do the tracking!  And you know that!

It's gstatic.com and googleadservices.com and doubleclick.net and ytimg.com and googletagmanager that does the TRACKING.

You are trying to MISLEAD and I'm smarter than that - as are most MSFN readers!

[Guest]

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Edited September 4, 2024 by Sampei.Nihira

[Saxon]

13 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

You are smarter than that!

That list is not a list of where to witness CNAME Cloaking and you know that!

Those are THIRD-PARTY CDNs, those are NOT first-party URLs!

www.google.com is the first-party URL.

That URL doesn't do the tracking!  And you know that!

It's gstatic.com and googleadservices.com and doubleclick.net and ytimg.com and googletagmanager that does the TRACKING.

You are trying to MISLEAD and I'm smarter than that - as are most MSFN readers!

Thank you very much for providing this information! Thank you very much for being objective.

Many times, MSFN members, for example  @Dixel, @D.Draker and I, we all raised questions about the content @Sampei.Nihira posts.

It's very often misleading, provocative, dubious, erroneous, or simply re-pasted from untrusted sources.

Addition:

Again, many thanks for keeping us informed,

Edited August 17, 2024 by Saxon

[Dixel]

On 8/15/2024 at 7:58 PM, K4sum1 said:

I am one person that is pretty dumb working on the much bigger latest Firefox codebase and I update from upstream instead of sticking to one old version.

Could you tell why you chose FF? Was it much easier to mod? I'd maybe joined but I'm a fan of China Chrome knock-offs.

You probably remember when we PMed with your old account in 2020.

[K4sum1]

2 hours ago, Dixel said:

Could you tell why you chose FF?

Firefox or Gecko is my main, I don't use Chromium unless I need to. I don't want 7 to end up like XP/Vista where it took ages to get beyond 52 (or 53 for Vista), and outside of r3dfox on Vista, the only other backport is 68. Yes, I know Mypal 68 has gone past 68 in compatibility, but still some sites are fussy with it, and it's gotten too buggy for me to use as my main anymore.

2 hours ago, Dixel said:

Was it much easier to mod?

I haven't touched Chromium source code, but from what I've heard, it seems much harder to mod or maintain. I think Chromium only has more forks and mods because it's more popular and BSD licensed, so you could close source or charge for your product, while Firefox is MPL which is very similar to GPL. human greed moment

[feodor2]

Disable most unwanted connections by set blank links in config files: firefox.js and all.js

What i did in the first mypal version

And to remove 'remote-settings' and its mentioning is easy enough.

Also may want to find out why it connects directly to the google (mozilla servers are there) ignoring proxy, older foxes don't do it, mulvad 115 likely too don't though not sure.

[D.Draker]

On 8/15/2024 at 4:25 PM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

A quick DNS-watch on roytam's New Moon 28 shows ZERO telemetry.  Same goes for feodor's MyPal 27 (not a typo, aware that there is a 68).

But I honestly do not recall if I had to jump through hoops to get them to ZERO telemetry as those two browser profiles are quite old.

Older versions obviously had less telemetry. And I'm not saying the modders didn't attempt to remove it, I don't know that.

[D.Draker]

On 8/15/2024 at 4:24 AM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

I witnessed close to 200 telemetry connections on first launch. 

The reviews on trustpilot are simply scary, I wanted to try, I can't, I just can't force myself to, sorry.

Just one example:

"It Went From Mozilla to Mobzilla. There is a reason why I don't frequently call it Mozilla anymore. A reason why I call it Mobzilla is because the leftist mob controls Mobzilla now."

https://uk.trustpilot.com/reviews/6060d0dcf85d7508703a63e2

[K4sum1]

@NotHereToPlayGames I took a look at betterfox, and came up with a few more things to disable. Since you're the one that wants it the most, what do you think I should do with these?

Captive portal: (I would want to keep this since it might confuse people at a hotel or somewhere that has a captive portal. However it's not that big I guess idk.)
user_pref("captivedetect.canonicalURL
To disable, set to (blank)
user_pref("network.captive-portal-service.enabled
To disable, set to false
user_pref("network.connectivity-service.enabled
To disable, set to false

Extension blocklist: (Security feature I guess. Not sure if there really are that many "bad" extensions anymore or how someone would get one. Is this worth keeping enabled?)
extensions.blocklist.enabled
To disable, set to false

Browser geolocation: (I hate location tracking myself, but users might want that idk)
browser.search.geoip.url
To disable, set to false

[NotHereToPlayGames]

It's low priority for me to give any of them a trial run.  Unsure when I'd get to it.  Bottom line is that NO BROWSER should be connecting to *ANY* DNS at launch.  Not a single solitary ONE.

[K4sum1]

I decided to apply all of them for 129.0.2. Except for browser.search.geoip.url, because there exists no mention of it in the source code

[D.Draker]

11 hours ago, K4sum1 said:

Except for browser.search.geoip.url,

Basically, you don't want that crap. It's geolocation for default search engine, in other words, gathering your IPs.

"In order to set the right default search engine for your location, Firefox will perform a geolocation lookup once by contacting Mozilla's servers and store the country-level result locally. This connection happens on the first start of Firefox – in case you want to prohibit that, you will have to preconfigure the browser and set the browser.search.geoip.url preference to a blank string."

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-stop-firefox-making-automatic-connections

[D.Draker]

On 8/20/2024 at 2:34 PM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Bottom line is that NO BROWSER should be connecting to *ANY* DNS at launch.  Not a single solitary ONE.

Yes and no. Let's see, Opera has its own VPN, when you choose to always "connect at start", it will, it's not spying, technically. I read FF now has a VPN, too. Is it any good? 

[K4sum1]

48 minutes ago, D.Draker said:

Basically, you don't want that crap. It's geolocation for default search engine, in other words, gathering your IPs.

https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/search?q=browser.search.geoip.url&path=&case=false&regexp=false

The only mention of the preference in source code is a leftover from a testing file. They've removed it. It makes no reason to set it.

[D.Draker]

11 hours ago, K4sum1 said:

https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/search?q=browser.search.geoip.url&path=&case=false&regexp=false

The only mention of the preference in source code is a leftover from a testing file. They've removed it. It makes no reason to set it.

Chrome devs (don't know about FF ones) like to revert changes, I just keep some old flags and whatnot in case they bring it back.