My Browser Builds (Part 5)

[fREAST]

I have some issues with the latest mailnews release (mailnews.win32-20250802-40a79c75-uxp-3553319265-xpmod), opening some emails crashes the program.

At least the 5 prior releases can open these emails without issues (eg. mailnews.win32-20250726-7bda12e7-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod)

I can send an eml file but would rather do it in private message if that is possible.

Here's event viewer logs, let me know if I can get any other logs somehow.

Faulting application name: mailnews.exe, version: 4.8.7.8956, time stamp: 0x688b80b7
Faulting module name: xul.dll, version: 4.8.7.8956, time stamp: 0x688b80de
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0141b048
Faulting process id: 0x7AF4
Faulting application start time: 0x1DC0475A8AA3941
Faulting application path: H:\Program\mailnews\mailnews.exe
Faulting module path: H:\Program\mailnews\xul.dll
Report Id: 8fb504df-e91b-4159-a708-95b9e931ef92
Faulting package full name: 
Faulting package-relative application ID: 

 

[roytam1]

1 hour ago, fREAST said:

I can send an eml file but would rather do it in private message if that is possible.

yeah please do so.

[fREAST]

1 hour ago, roytam1 said:

yeah please do so.

I tried sending a message here but got an error "roytam1 cannot receive messages", so I sent it to your email instead.
 

[roytam1]

16 minutes ago, fREAST said:

I tried sending a message here but got an error "roytam1 cannot receive messages", so I sent it to your email instead.
 

sure, thanks, sample eml is retrieved.

and with my fix in https://msfn.org/board/topic/185966-my-browser-builds-part-5/page/148/#findComment-1281466 applied, opening your sample doesn't crash.

so killed two birds with one stone. upstream doesn't fully test their changes, and unfortunately so do I. as a result, your inputs worth a lot.

and of course please wait for next build which should fix these problems.

[roytam1]

alright upstream has a follow-up for this as well.

[VistaLover]

2 hours ago, roytam1 said:

upstream has a follow-up for this as well.

... Is it this one ?

https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/commit/76c9a8a09fa5eb6d0a7567adefeb57a4dbdf2964

[Slavich]

In "New moon", it is not necessary or enthusiastic to work on the following sites:

https://vkvideo.ru
https://ozon.kz
https://www.avito.ru
https://www.vseinstrumenti.ru

Edited August 6 by Slavich

[modnar]

On 8/6/2025 at 1:49 PM, Slavich said:

In "New moon", it is not necessary or enthusiastic to work on the following sites:

https://vkvideo.ru
https://ozon.kz
https://www.avito.ru
https://www.vseinstrumenti.ru

Yes, they are quite slow to load or respond in Serpent 52.9 too.

[roytam1]

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250809-3219d2d-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250809-3219d2d-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250809-3219d2d-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2714 - Implement the Visual Viewport API (a036cfeb69)
- Issue #2714 - Enable the Visual Viewport API by default. (1ffa7569e9)
- Issue #2835 - Follow-up: Guard against import rules with no attached style sheet (2026586ce1)
- Issue #2838 - Use `ToIndex` in `TypedArray` CTORs (c07ea665ea)
- Issue #2838 - Update tests (fcc58bfbba)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

My changes picked since my last build:
- [Basilisk] [Pale-Moon] [SSUAO] update youtube's SSUAO (5a01efea53)
- layout: CascadeSheet: check aSheet is non-null before use. (a2da19760e)

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

Edited August 8 by roytam1

[roytam1]

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250809-40a79c75-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250809-40a79c75-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250809-id-656ea98-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250809-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

[roytam1]

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP!
* Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250809-391ff658e-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250809-391ff658e-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- import from `custom` branch of UXP: layout: CascadeSheet: check aSheet is non-null before use. (0f81abbe6)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2714 - Implement the Visual Viewport API (a036cfeb) (e822fb126)
- import from UXP: Issue #2714 - Enable the Visual Viewport API by default. (1ffa7569) (991888773)
- import from UXP: Issue #2835 - Follow-up: Guard against import rules with no attached style sheet (2026586c) (05a146473)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2838 - Use `ToIndex` in `TypedArray` CTORs (c07ea665) (f97a16faa)
- import from UXP: Issue #2838 - Update tests (fcc58bfb) (391ff658e)

[kuja killer]

Hello, i need to ask about something again. Does the paypal website not work in these browsers anymore ?? I've tried your Seperent, New Moon/Pale Moon, and Mypal 74.1.1
I've had a paypal account since the early 2010's and never had any issues with it before. But suddenly i cant seem to even get to the actual login page on any browser whatsoever.

What i mean is, i click the login on top right side of the main homepage, and get this "security check" before even seeing the email/password form, where you slide your mouse from left to right ...or do an "audio" thing where you type 6 numbers you hear. And when i click it, i get the green checkmark ...but it says "You are blocked. we couldnt load the security challenge"

And the only way i can ever try again is to delete any/all "paypal" cookies from the browser. I've tried tons of times and it always keeps saying "we couldnt load the security challenge" after doing it successfully. I dont know what's going on, but this is the first time in my life i seen this happen.
Does this have anything to do with the annoying Cloudflare crap that plagued all the browsers in recent months ?? Or is something serpent/new moon/mypal doesnt support all of a sudden now? - The last time i was able to login to my account was about a month ago or so, and never saw this happen before until now.

Edited August 20 by kuja killer

[VistaLover]

@kuja killer

Paypal-related issues have also appeared in the upstream forum: 

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=32581

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=264391#p264391

Mixed reports from various users there, probably depending on their physical location; PayPal are conducting various A/B tests, it seems (read e.g. this PMForum thread ); user at the second link I posted thinks that it's NOT CloudFlare, but a PayPal-specific recaptcha (security check) that is NOT compatible with UXP-based browsers ...

Can you try again with a fresh NM28 profile, where you block nothing?

FWIW, with my ISP's Greek IP, I can access 

https://www.paypal.com/signin

in NM28 at this very time without issue,

but, as I don't have an account with them, can't proceed any further...

[kuja killer]

Hmm i see... man this is extremely fustrating. Well i dont ever use any other browsers except the serpent, so i dont have any add-ons or anything at all with those other ones, i just downloaded them and immediately tried to go straight to the paypal homepage, and login... sometimes it automatically attaches a "local US EN" to the link by itself, sometimes not. probably because it knows i live in Arizona United States which is fine.

I did also make sure to disable all add-ons and so on with Serpent too ...tried the icognito/private window too and no luck. I took some screenshots from all 3 browsers

serpent - https://i.ibb.co/p6QhdLnF/challenge1.png - i got a screenshot when it shows the green "success" checkmark for a split second when doing the "slide your mouse left to right" or the audio one, before then immediately saying "could not load"

mypal - https://i.ibb.co/gN02BHJ/mypal-challenge.png

new moon/pale moon 28 (latest august 8 2025 from roytam1's links) - https://i.ibb.co/bRRMfGW6/challenge-pale-newmoon.png - this one somehow managed to show the email/password form at least once (when deleting all cookies and trying again) ...then it had a "hcaptcha" thing ..that succeeded fine... THEN it showed the stupid mouse sliding/audio one immediately after that....and then the stupid "we couldnt load"

I also tried like using a "latest edge" user agent just in case that might of mattered or not (on serpent) - the first one from the top of this website:
https://www.whatismybrowser.com/guides/the-latest-user-agent/edge
...that got the email/password form to show up...but it did the same thing as new moon/pale moon... started with hcaptcha prompt which goes through...followed by the damn mouse sliding one and "couldnt load, blocked"

Edited August 21 by kuja killer

[VistaLover]

@kuja killer , follow up: 

Some 2 hours after my previous post, my modem-router had to be restarted (details that necessitated that are OT here), so my ISP assigned a new IP address to my internet connection; whether this is somehow relevant or a sheer coincidence, I have no idea ...

Today, after reading your latest reply, I tried to re-access 

https://www.paypal.com/signin

(as I had done yesterday) with the same NM28 copy as before; and guess what? I was hit by the same breakage you reported: 

I additionally have a page header instructing me to: 

"Please enable JS and disable any ad blocker"

but JS is enabled and uBlock Origin (legacy) completely disabled; as you detailed in your post, sliding the blue button to the right (to "prove you're a human") turns it for half a second into green (with a white tick), but then the "you've been blocked" (in Greek, in my case) page appears... It is then impossible to access the proper sign-in page  ...

I opened Dev Console (which PayPal detected and did NOT like  ) : 

but nothing stands out there for me...

On the same machine (with the same IP address), browsers like r3dfoxESR-115.13.0 (or even the most current, r3dfox-140.0.4) will also be presented with the human verification challenge, but is then successfully passed, after which a redirection takes place to the sought-after sign-in page...

So, PayPal have started requiring "a feature" (JS, CSS, both) that is to be found on relatively (more) recent Firefox incarnations, but isn't found currently in UXP browsers (and MyPal); this is based on feature detection, so a SSUAO won't work, as noted...

And yes, PayPal are using their "own" captcha: 

https://geo.ddc.paypal.com/captcha?.....

Further researching this, Google have provided an alternative sign-in page, 

https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/home => https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/signin

which loads for me straight away in both NM28 and St52; as said already, I don't have valid credentials to test whether one can successfully log-in, hopefully it'll work for you (assuming that signing-in to "www.sandbox.paypal,com" logs you, too, to "www.paypal,com") ...

Regards  ...

Edited August 22 by VistaLover
strikethrough sandbox.paypal