My Browser Builds (Part 5)

[kuja killer]

sorry it's not cause i hate it, i just was only concerned about getting bsod's with chrome(s) again like in the past.. i didnt know if it would happen again or not.

but let me try one more time... i found this certificate manager mmc snap-in thing.. but when i right click on any of the columns, there's only just "import" ..no export except a .txt file, but that doesnt seem to be any good cause it just only lists the names of each one.

it seems like i can only export 1 single one at a time when manually clicking on these, on the right...but not "everything all at once" ...how would i even find which one is the correct file that the serpmium did earlier ?? - im not willing to spend 10... 15 hours trying to do these all 1 at a time - well it'd take longer than that especially testing every single one individually in serpent browser hundreds of times for days... there's 460 of these in this one... then another 450 in the "third party root" section

Edited Sunday at 03:21 AM by kuja killer

[NotHereToPlayGames]

9 hours ago, kuja killer said:

im not willing to spend 10... 15 hours trying to do these all 1 at a time

You should only need to SORT them by EXPIRATION DATE and isolate which have been updated most recently.

HOWEVER, this is NOT a guarantee that you will end up getting paypal to work in non-chrome.  IT IS ONLY THE *FIRST* HURDLE and there could be a DOZEN hurdles in front of you.

It doesn't even mean that you will find a cert!  Again, there are going to be a DOZEN hurdles, certficates should always be the FIRST (in my opinion) to clear.  Nowadays, CSS is next.  Then JS.

And DON'T EVEN BOTHER changing your user agent!  The sooner you break that "old school" thinking, the better.  (again, just my opinion)

[roytam1]

10 hours ago, kuja killer said:

sorry it's not cause i hate it, i just was only concerned about getting bsod's with chrome(s) again like in the past.. i didnt know if it would happen again or not.

but let me try one more time... i found this certificate manager mmc snap-in thing.. but when i right click on any of the columns, there's only just "import" ..no export except a .txt file, but that doesnt seem to be any good cause it just only lists the names of each one.

it seems like i can only export 1 single one at a time when manually clicking on these, on the right...but not "everything all at once" ...how would i even find which one is the correct file that the serpmium did earlier ?? - im not willing to spend 10... 15 hours trying to do these all 1 at a time - well it'd take longer than that especially testing every single one individually in serpent browser hundreds of times for days... there's 460 of these in this one... then another 450 in the "third party root" section

you can open paypal in my browser, check and export certs in crt format, then import them in IE settings dialog (contents).

Edited Sunday at 01:09 PM by roytam1

[NotHereToPlayGames]

His report is that he needs to go the other way.  That he can NOT paypal in your browsers but CAN in Supermium.

[kuja killer]

It's crazy there's probably 50 to 100 of these where the expiration date is in the 2040's... probabably 200 or 300+ in the 2030's ... i just dont know.
I looked at least at that stupid slide your mouse screen and the "page properties --> certificate" window saying Digicert High Assurance or something... i tried exporting that certficate from the page... then put it it in Serpent, but it wouldnt work on any of the sections

i also just very carefully spent an hour looking at the start/end dates of every single "digi cert" related thing in serpent, vs every one in that windows manager tool, and they all already were the same, i didnt find 1 single one that was older or mis-matched from either.... i also then tried the "cert updater" program from this thread so now there's more than 500 in both those columns now instead of 450. - but still always getting that horrible "slide mouse" screen.

https://msfn.org/board/topic/183352-proxhttpsproxy-and-httpsproxy-in-windows-xp-for-future-use/#comment-1213600

Edited Sunday at 10:27 PM by kuja killer

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Okay, then "might" not be a cert issue.

Move on to the next domino - what css/js is your Supermium capable of that your Serpent is not capable of.

Good Luck!

Me Thinks that you're just going to turn yourself into a dog with a flea on the tip of its tail, running in a circle trying to bite at that flea.

 

All I can really tell you on this end is that I do *not* get the slide mouse screen in my OLDER version of Serpent.

But I also run that OLDER version of Serpent (daily! 24/7!) from within Win10 and not XP.

Edited Monday at 12:31 AM by NotHereToPlayGames

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I did just discover that the paypal slide mouse screen in my older version of Serpent is DEPENDENT UPON the ISP that I use.

I canceled my previous ISP but it remains active until the end of my billing cycle (I only have two more days) - I get no slide mouse screen in Serpent when connected via my previous ISP (cable).

I *DO* get the slide mouse in Serpent (unsolvable - checkbox turns green but page does NOT advance) in Serpent when connected via my new ISP (fiber optic).

[kuja killer]

hmm i had a feeling about it looking at IP's before possibly, because of it loading this "geo" ddc it shows in the URL for a split second. :|

[j7n]

It is the end of New Moon for me. My bank (SEB Bank) designed an new "smart" payment form, which shows a blank area with some dialog shifted off screen to the right. This form lags even in Supermium. I would be lost without Supermium.

 

https://i.imgur.com/kTBJjWj.png

[anton12]

Hello NotHereToPlayGames,
You said:
"I did just discover that the paypal slide mouse screen in my older version of Serpent is DEPENDENT UPON the ISP that I use."

Is this interdependence also true for the latest version (2025-08-21)
of St52 ?

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I'm afraid that I will have to decline from that experiment.  My apologies.

Newer versions of Serpent *do not work* on my end because Session Restore is a **MUST**.

I have noted these Session Restore issues in the past and intermittent as they are in newer, I have *ZERO* problems with Session Restore in my older version.

I have had way WAY too many updates over the years only to REVERT to the version that WORKS for me.

Sorry, my version has to remain where it is.  When I can no longer text and email from it, then I'll have to cross that bridge when I come to it.

Until then, "long live my OLD Serpent".

This version WORKS for me and NEWER versions do NOT.  Not to sound too blunt, but I have lost interest in newer versions of Serpent all on account of SESSION RESTORE table of tabs/windows NOT POPULATING in newer versions.

Again, intermittent as it is, the version that I use always ALWAYS **ALWAYS** populates the Session Restore table, so this is going to be my last version of Serpent until I see changelogs reflect Session Restore fixes.

 

 

[anton12]

Hello NotHereToPlayGames,
You said:
"Newer versions of Serpent *do not work* on my end because Session Restore is a **MUST**.
 I have noted these Session Restore issues in the past and intermittent as they are in newer, I have *ZERO* problems with Session Restore in my older version."
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I have *ZERO* problems with Session Restore in my latest version
of Serpent St52.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

That may be promising!  MAYBE it's fixed.

Just how did you get to the Restore Session page?

What really has *never* worked for me in "newer" versions is for me to have only two windows open, each with only one tab, and Serpent.exe is TERMINATED via Windows Task Manager / System Informer / et alia.

Edited 13 hours ago by NotHereToPlayGames

[anton12]

Hello NotHereToPlayGames,
You asked:
"Just how did you get to the Restore Session page?"

Answer:
Via Task Manager (End Process) or
the "Sledgehammer Method" ,i.e. cut off the power supply.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Okay, well, I can report that the Restore Session page **IS** working in the most-recent version of Serpent v52.

I terminated via Task Manager ten consecutive times and ALL TEN presented a populated windows/tabs table.

In the past, two or three of those ten would *NOT* present the table, it would just open/restore my last session **WITHOUT** presenting the table - this is not a "functioning" feature.

But I can not replicate this behavior with most-recent version, ALL TEN terminations function properly.