StartAllBack for Windows 11

[lubierzca]

3 hours ago, Lars-Erik said:

I have a strange question. When I scroll to the top or bottom in Explorer the whole windows moves up/down.
Never seen this before. Is this a Windows 11 thing or what causes it, and how to disable it :-)

It's definitely not a Win11 thing, can u record a screen while this happens?

[znerolnoht]

I'm trying to make a new taskbar icon for the start menu. I can see where to add one but trying different file sizes and types (pngs, svgs) results in an error or the icon is incorrectly displayed. 
Can you help with the requirements/formatting for a PNG or SVG?

[tistou77]

With 3.9.13, the address and search bar is wider (W10 explorer), please fix it

3.9.12 :  

 

3.9.13 :  

Edited July 27 by tistou77

[Lars-Erik]

On 7/24/2025 at 7:39 PM, lubierzca said:

It's definitely not a Win11 thing, can u record a screen while this happens?

Seems like it is a thing that can happend when you use the pad on the laptop for scrolling (or a touch screen).
It is controlled by this registrry entry:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Wisp\Touch]
"Bouncing"=dword:00000000

A value of 0 prevents the windows from "shaking" when you scroll to the end.

[Tihiy]

1 hour ago, tistou77 said:

With 3.9.13, the address and search bar is wider (W10 explorer), please fix it

You use compact mode and modified msstyles?

[Hugo Yu]

the word "second" here should be translated to 秒，not 第二个。

 

Edited July 27 by Hugo Yu

[tistou77]

54 minutes ago, Tihiy said:

You use compact mode and modified msstyles?

Yes compact mode and custom theme, but nothing changed in the theme for that

Thanks

EDIT: Indeed, with the default theme, it's fine
Strange because SAB has no impact on the custom theme with 3.9.12 and address / search bar (not the rounded corners with a custom theme, for example)

Edited July 27 by tistou77

[mencall]

11 hours ago, Hugo Yu said:

the word "second" here should be translated to 秒，not 第二个。

这个我以前也注意到了，不过这个问题实际是Windows简体中文翻译或本地化的问题，因为sab实际引用的是系统日期时间控制面板的资源（timedate.cpl），具体为'@timedate.cpl,-1189'。

Quote

timedate.cpl.mui,-1189' 简体中文资源
  1187,"小时"
  1188,"分钟"
  1189,"第二个"
  1190,"时间标记"
--英文资源
  1187,"Hour"
  1188,"Minute"
  1189,"Second"
  1190,"Time Marker"

这个Second（应为“秒”）翻译成 第二个 的翻译错误应该是自Windows7以来就有了，估计可能是界面上没有吧，所以一直没人发现 。
同时上面的Day好像也应该翻译成周（week）而不是日（天），这个也是引用的（'@shell32.dll,-34830'）——或引用的不对。
那么怎么解决呢，要么作者调整下引用或修改添加到字符翻译里，要么自己修改系统的资源文件或sab资源。

我不知道其他语言（翻译）情况，看起来没人反馈吧，估计可能就是简体中文有这个问题。

Edited July 28 by mencall

[win98seFQ99]

On 7/28/2025 at 12:16 PM, mencall said:

这个我以前也注意到了，不过这个问题实际是Windows简体中文翻译或本地化的问题，因为sab实际引用的是系统日期时间控制面板的资源（timedate.cpl），具体为'@timedate.cpl,-1189'。

这个Second（应为“秒”）翻译成 第二个 的翻译错误应该是自Windows7以来就有了，估计可能是界面上没有吧，所以一直没人发现 。
同时上面的Day好像也应该翻译成周（week）而不是日（天），这个也是引用的（'@shell32.dll,-34830'）——或引用的不对。
那么怎么解决呢，要么作者调整下引用或修改添加到字符翻译里，要么自己修改系统的资源文件或sab资源。

我不知道其他语言（翻译）情况，看起来没人反馈吧，估计可能就是简体中文有这个问题。

Yikes. No wonder I don't find such references in StartAllBack's translation file; Microsoft's translations (especially of Simplified Chinese) are extremely horrendous. 🤦

Edited August 1 by win98seFQ99

[Uiti P. Uszer]

Feature Request: Could you please add a Classic (Win 2K, 9x style) Start Menu theme, like Open Shell has. Or can anyone link to a 3rd party Classic Start Menu theme for SAB?

[Lars-Erik]

2 hours ago, Uiti P. Uszer said:

Feature Request: Could you please add a Classic (Win 2K, 9x style) Start Menu theme, like Open Shell has. Or can anyone link to a 3rd party Classic Start Menu theme for SAB?

I second this. I use Open Shell to get to old style meny (see screenshot from Windows 10) and on Windows 11 I now have to use both StartAllBack and OpenShell.

[lubierzca]

5 hours ago, Uiti P. Uszer said:

Feature Request: Could you please add a Classic (Win 2K, 9x style) Start Menu theme, like Open Shell has. Or can anyone link to a 3rd party Classic Start Menu theme for SAB?

@Uiti P. Uszer Open-Shell barely uses any cpu/ram, you can keep using both w/out problems, I do too. Let dev focus on adding new functions and fixing bugs rather than enabling what exist already.

[click-click]

I am using toolbars with StartAllBack. My quicklaunch toolbar is for my selected Apps. I have another toolbar that is created by Lenovo Power Manager which
adds a useful Battery object. If I checkmark that toolbar to show in the taskbar, the SAB start icon tends to disappear under certain circumstances. It
reappears in different situations such as mousing over the start icon or clicking on an empty space on the taskbar. If I uncheck the Power Manager Toolbar,
none of this happens and the start icon never disappears. Is it possible for SAB to make thw start icon stick and not disappear?

Happens too if the taskbar is unlocked.

Edited July 29 by click-click

[tistou77]

On 7/27/2025 at 7:08 PM, tistou77 said:

Yes compact mode and custom theme, but nothing changed in the theme for that

Thanks

EDIT: Indeed, with the default theme, it's fine
Strange because SAB has no impact on the custom theme with 3.9.12 and address / search bar (not the rounded corners with a custom theme, for example)

A user posted that he had the same problem, but I can't see his post anymore
Did he find a solution ?

[Fullmetal1212]

Hey there, I just want to thank you for all your work on Start All Back. It's been extremely helpful. Especially as I use this machine on a order picker and quite often need my notifications to be at the top of the screen so being able to put the taskbar up there is extremely helpful.

 I have encountered an issue I want to ask if anybody else has run into.

I have this on one of my Windows 11 machines at work and I use the Windows key followed by a number to switch windows all the time. (WIN+1, 2, 3,  Depending on the position of the app I want it to switch to.)

But about a month and a half ago it started scrolling to the left on the taskbar icons instead of directly selecting the program regardless of what button I press.

I'm running Start All Back 3.9.13 on
Windows 11 Enterprise 24H2
OS build 26100.4270
Feature Pack 1000.26100.66.0

So if I try to switch to the first program on my taskbar,(using WIN+1) For example, it will highlight the one at the end and then just continue highlighting down the programs, but never actually switch to the window.  This functionality works perfectly fine on my 24H2 system at home,  and used to work perfectly on this machine too.

I have also tried shutting down every running application other than start all back, as well as a multiple complete reinstalls,

The only other piece of software on here that is new would be the Dell peripheral manager that they forcibly installed, despite me not using any Dell peripherals.  The software was working fine with SAB, when this was installed, but that's the most recent piece of software added.

Besides that, I have my Microsoft keyboard driver, which I've had for the entire time I've owned this machine,  However, shutting down this software has no change.

If I switch back to the original taskbar the function works perfectly, so I'm unsure as to what happened.

So I'm wondering if you guys have any ideas. Thanks for your time.