NotHereToPlayGames Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 1/27/2021 at 6:34 PM, ArcticFoxie said: A word of caution in advance, this *will* CRASH your browser and you *will* have a TON of error dialogs to clear. But the computer does remains responsive - I'm only crashing the browser and not the OS. I did this in a WinXP VirtualBox with 2GB RAM - the numbers would vary plus or minus 5 or so with consecutive runs. v11 crashed with only roughly 58 about:blank's opened. v12 crashed with roughly 74. V13 crashed with roughly 97. Note that I"m only loading "about:blank" tabs but this test DOES demonstrate that newer versions don't crash as early as older versions with a "ton of tabs" open. Here's how (I use the "portable repack", so these instructions will need modified if you use the "installed" version versus the "portable") - Create a "crash.bat" file (without the quotes) in the same folder that contains "360Loader.exe". When you execute crash.bat, several about:blanks will open and *will* eventually CRASH -- the command prompt will stop incrementing when no more about:blanks will load - ie, you crashed your browser. The crash.bat contents follow -- @echo off for /l %%i in (1,1,1000) do ( echo Tab Count: %%i start 360Loader.exe "about:blank" ping 127.0.0.1 -n 1 > nul ) Happy Crashing Please note that this thread discussed a similar crash back in pages 16 and 17. Tests then showed *better* RAM handling with v13 over v12 and with v12 over v11. It's not so cut-and-dried as looking at RAM amount and doing "simple math" as to which number is larger or smaller - IT IS NOT THAT "SIMPLE". We also have to factor in that v11 is based on Chrome 69 - which does not multi-thread or at the very least is "first generation" multi-threading. Keep us posted as you try v13 (or maybe even v12). As I suspect that NEITHER will have this "crash bug" that I cannot replicate on my hardware but seems consistent on your hardware. Keep us posted... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 11 hours ago, Cixert said: Another option I have found is to override Isolation chrome: // flags / # site-isolation-trial-opt-out But I have not observed real effects. Here are two overrides submitted back in Page 16. --enable-low-end-device-mode --enable-low-res-tiling I did not observe any effects when I tried these several months ago but maybe they will on your setup. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VistaLover Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Another tip already mentioned previously in this thread is to launch 360EE with the cmdline argument: --process-per-site so that tabs under the same domain (e.g. all facebook.com tabs) are loaded by the same unique browser process; I tested this briefly in the past, but since I never get to having more than 25 open tabs and very few, if any, among them share the same domain, I did not witness a noticeable reduction in RAM consumption (tried on 360EEv12/v13) ... YMMV, of course... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergiaws Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Where can I download a portable version of the browser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) Normally I would direct you to here -- https://lrepacks.net/repaki-programm-dlya-interneta/182-360-extreme-explorer-amp-portable.html BUT builds 2210, 2212, and 2216 of v13 are all BROKEN as far as ENGLISH (ie, Developer Tools). So I remain on build 2206. A Google search found build 2206 here, I suggest it until the newer releases fix the English in Developer Tools -- https://mega4up.com/c9zq51tq6r6i TAKE CAUTION -- "mega" hosting cites try to "trick" you into the WRONG download link! Click on the Free Download button, fill in the not-a-robot-crap, click create download link, click the click here to download, it will usually open a new tab - CLOSE THAT TAB, it is NOT the real download. Click the click here to download a SECOND time - this should start the REAL download -- the file name is 360_extreme_explorer_13.0.2206.0.zip If it tries to get you to download an .exe, CANCEL the download and click the click here to download again until it finally downloads the ZIP file. NEVER download .exe files from "mega" hosting cites! But that's the only place I could find build 2206 as far as a download link. Edited April 8, 2021 by ArcticFoxie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergiaws Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 It was easier to download from official Chinese website. I extracted the .exe and I got a portable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cixert Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Sergiaws said: It was easier to download from official Chinese website. I extracted the .exe and I got a portable. Here all Russian versions portable and supposedly without telemetry. Edited April 9, 2021 by Cixert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergiaws Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Thanks for the link! It was very difficult to download it from the official's Russian Repack site. It's fast and some things that don't work in Serpent/Basilisk work well under 360, such as Blackboard's videocalls and I plan to test Skype calls. I'm really don't scared about it's telemetry, because today any Chromium browser have some kind of telemetry. However, as a precaution, I blocked it's official website (hau.360.com), because I thought it could send some data. Blocking their website I can have more guarantee that they have less possibilities to steal my data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Sergiaws said: I blocked it's official website (hau.360.com), because I thought it could send some data. Blocking their website I can have more guarantee that they have less possibilities to steal my data. Add the below sites to your adblock custom filter rules: rec.360.cn dl.360tpcdn.com down.360safe.com hs.browser.360.cn hao.360.cn *.f.360.cn se.360.cn *.alicdn.com *.browser.360.cn *.mediav.com *.ssl.qhres.com www.redbaby.com.cn *.ip.taobao.com www.rsks.sdrs.gov.cn utohome.com.cn abbs.com.cn auto.sina.com.cn amazon.cn crt.comodoca4.com www.abchina.com www.alipay.com ise.sapi.so.com auto.sohu.com p0.qhimg.com tencent.com e10.net 163data.com.cn chrome.360.cn ext.chrome.360.cn pvstat.qihoo.com crash.browser.360.cn weibo.com bbs.360.cn query.rec.360.cn tt.browser.360.cn papi.look.360.cn weather.hao.360.cn mini.browser.360.cn cdn.weather.hao.360.cn skin.chrome.360.cn yun.chrome.360.cn yun.browser.360.cn browser.360.cn cloud.browser.360.cn dd.browser.360.cn pub1.sdns.360.cn p0.ssl.qhimg.com p1.ssl.qhimg.com p2.ssl.qhimg.com p3.ssl.qhimg.com p4.ssl.qhimg.com p5.ssl.qhimg.com s0.ssl.qhimg.com s0.ssl.qhres.com s3.ssl.qhres.com s4.ssl.qhres.com Block all those IPs below with your firewall: 8.238.101.126 8.238.101.1 - 8.238.101.255 68.232.34.240 68.232.34.0 to 68.232.34.255 36.96.0.0 - 36.127.255.255 52.222.232.78 101.198.0.0 - 101.231.255.255 104.192.108.0 - 104.192.111.255 106.32.0.0 - 106.121.255.255 116.208.93.0 - 116.211.255.255 117.24.0.0 - 117.28.132.255 120.132.0.0 - 120.132.127.255 120.24.0.0 - 120.27.255.255 123.112.0.0 - 123.127.255.255 125.88.193.230 180.152.0.0 - 180.175.255.255 210.52.0.0 - 210.53.255.255 220.181.0.0 - 220.181.255.255 203.130.48.0 - 203.130.63.255 42.81.35.32 - 42.81.67.255 10.211.37.182 120.76.215.39 106.39.219.24 58.222.32.0-58.222.63.255 101.197.0.0-101.198.197.255 42.224.0.0 - 42.239.255.255 65.99.192.0-65.255.255.255 106.0.0.0-106.31.255.255 106.122.0.0-106.255.255.255 119.144.0.0 - 119.147.255.255 140.205.0.0 - 140.205.255.255 172.217.0.0 - 172.217.255.255 203.130.32.0 - 203.130.63.255 211.151.0.0 - 211.151.255.255 165.193.78.252 208.73.210.214 208.73.210.200 113.0.0.0-113.202.255.255 111.206.66.62 54.192.98.0-54.192.99.255 85.10.210.166 91.199.212.52 94.130.73.112 95.216.27.30 104.20.10.222 104.20.11.222 151.101.36.133 172.29.141.0-172.29.141.255 183.131.215.0-183.131.215.255 218.92.152.12 239.255.255.250 80.239.201.72 54.192.230.55 54.192.230.56 180.163.237.176 ADD these lines to your HOSTS file : 0.0.0.0 www.so.com 0.0.0.0 rec.360.cn 0.0.0.0 dl.360tpcdn.com 0.0.0.0 down.360safe.com 0.0.0.0 hs.browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 hao.360.cn 0.0.0.0 .f.360.cn 0.0.0.0 se.360.cn 0.0.0.0 .alicdn.com 0.0.0.0 .browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 .mediav.com 0.0.0.0 .ssl.qhres.com 0.0.0.0 www.redbaby.com.cn 0.0.0.0 www.rsks.sdrs.gov.cn 0.0.0.0 utohome.com.cn 0.0.0.0 abbs.com.cn 0.0.0.0 auto.sina.com.cn 0.0.0.0 amazon.cn 0.0.0.0 crt.comodoca4.com 0.0.0.0 www.abchina.com 0.0.0.0 www.alipay.com 0.0.0.0 ise.sapi.so.com 0.0.0.0 auto.sohu.com 0.0.0.0 p0.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 tencent.com 0.0.0.0 e10.net 0.0.0.0 163data.com.cn ADDITIONAL , mostly for 360EE 52.64.0.0 - 52.79.255.255 112.64.117.128-112.65.83.255 104.19.192.102 180.97.63.141 1.192.192.198 101.224.0.0-101.231.255.255 101.236.12.4 103.37.142.167 103.37.152.3 104.122.244.89 104.239.163.134 116.55.241.187 117.50.1.222 120.133.2.210 120.55.238.134 122.14.236.13 122.14.236.14 122.228.248.110 124.112.127.84 124.225.182.153 124.251.87.49 149.154.163.72 157.255.45.80 157.255.45.88 157.255.45.93 157.255.45.94 163.0.0.0-163.255.255.255 183.136.132.110 183.47.234.70 183.47.234.82 188.254.86.243 188.254.86.254 219.235.129.117 220.170.48.76 220.170.48.77 220.170.48.80 45.114.228.0-45.119.207.255 58.51.168.127 60.211.208.36 87.245.197.32 87.245.198.78 87.245.200.88 95.100.188.197 95.163.144.221 104.192.108.21 104.192.108.18 104.192.108.17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) I very STRONGLY suggest using the REPACK version. The hurdles to jump through aren't nearly so GIGANTUOUS as far as telemetry-prevention with the REPACK version. I have personally only witnessed roughly 5% of Dixel's list so I would be curious to see screencaps of evidence that such a huge list is required even under the "official" (non-repack) version. My HOSTS file blocklist suggestions are much much smaller and I've not yet witnessed anything in Dixel's list outside of the below -- 0.0.0.0 browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 cloud.browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 dd.browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 qurl.f.360.cn 0.0.0.0 chrome.360.cn 0.0.0.0 ext.chrome.360.cn 0.0.0.0 u.qurl.f.360.cn 0.0.0.0 puv.tt.browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 p.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p0.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p1.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p2.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p3.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p4.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p5.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p0.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p1.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p2.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p3.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p4.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p5.ssl.qhmsg.com I've personally not witnessed all of the .p0 through .p5 items, but I keep the full sequence blocked "just in case". I should point out that I delete errorpage.zip and newtab.zip and I've never used the "official" version, only the repack and only with a very large number of tweaks. Too many tweaks to list here, but one of them is to open chrome.dll in HxD Hex Editor and replace all 265 (build 2206) ocurrences of "360.cn" (without the quotes) with "killed" (without the quotes). Another tweak while in HxD Hex Editor is to zero-out the IP Address for "SystemHostResolverCall" (without the quotes). Edited April 11, 2021 by ArcticFoxie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 3 hours ago, ArcticFoxie said: I very STRONGLY suggest using the REPACK version. The hurdles to jump through aren't nearly so GIGANTUOUS as far as telemetry-prevention with the REPACK version. I have personally only witnessed roughly 5% of Dixel's list so I would be curious to see screencaps of evidence that such a huge list is required even under the "official" (non-repack) version. My HOSTS file blocklist suggestions are much much smaller and I've not yet witnessed anything in Dixel's list outside of the below -- 0.0.0.0 browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 cloud.browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 dd.browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 qurl.f.360.cn 0.0.0.0 chrome.360.cn 0.0.0.0 ext.chrome.360.cn 0.0.0.0 u.qurl.f.360.cn 0.0.0.0 puv.tt.browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 p.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p0.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p1.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p2.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p3.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p4.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p5.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p0.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p1.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p2.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p3.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p4.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p5.ssl.qhmsg.com I've personally not witnessed all of the .p0 through .p5 items, but I keen the full sequence blocked "just in case". I should point out that I delete errorpage.zip and newtab.zip and I've never used the "official" version, only the repack and only with a very large number of tweaks. Too many tweaks to list here, but one of them is to open chrome.dll in HxD Hex Editor and replace all 265 (build 2206) ocurrences of "360.cn" (without the quotes) with "killed" (without the quotes). It really feels like something personal . What do you want to say , smth like "Dixel is giving a bad advice" ?! The poster clearly stated to you that he wants to use the original version and it is too hard for him to download from your link , did you see it ? It is his choice . So I'm giving the advice based on his wishes. It is very obvious, if you use another version (repacked) , the outcome will be different , no ? Errorpage.zip and newtab.zip is not connecting to any websites . lol. By deleting it you simply remove the chinese new tab and error warning in their language . Also , simply replacing 360.cn in Hex Editor won't give you the desired result . It would be too easy , wouldn't it ? You definitely need to dig much deeper . They aren't that silly to just left everything in the open ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 21 hours ago, ArcticFoxie said: I very STRONGLY suggest using the REPACK version. Normally I would direct you to here -- https://lrepacks.net/repaki-programm-dlya-interneta/182-360-extreme-explorer-amp-portable.html Also , I do not have anything against you personally , but this seems quite strange (just sayin') , I mean about how you insist on using repacked software from russian websites , typing in CAPS and all . I took a look at that site . It is a common russian warez website with tons of repacked commercial software. Is this even allowed by the moderators to redirect to such websites ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Easy, Grasshopper! No malfeasance was intended so apologies if you felt that way. Simply offering an alternative solution. 360Chrome is my DEFAULT browser, I believe you once told us that it is NOT your default. BTW, caps are just a bad habit, maybe it's a generational thing, don't know. We could start a poll but my hunch is that those of us that watch this thread because 360Chrome is our DEFAULT (or at least a "majority-use"), that we are using the REPACK versus the "official". Again, no malfeasance intended. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 3 hours ago, ArcticFoxie said: Easy, Grasshopper! No malfeasance was intended so apologies if you felt that way. Simply offering an alternative solution. 360Chrome is my DEFAULT browser, I believe you once told us that it is NOT your default. BTW, caps are just a bad habit, maybe it's a generational thing, don't know. We could start a poll but my hunch is that those of us that watch this thread because 360Chrome is our DEFAULT (or at least a "majority-use"), that we are using the REPACK versus the "official". Again, no malfeasance intended. Apologies accepted , peace. Yes , I told that before , it is not my default browser. But it may very well become one in the future , once I remove the rest of the bloat. Why ? I'm looking for a solid browser without the need of the Vista's extended kernel because I use Vista without it . As of now , I wrote a programme that launches it in "sandbox mode". Why in quotes ? Because it's not as simple as it may seem , it is actually a hybrid mode with many features disabled/enabled , somewhat similar to what developers do when testing browsers. For example , this programme disables various code generators in 360's engine and I just can't tell everything because it would be too much to type and I'm not fond of typing . In short , I made it's launch blazingly fast and secure and I will not need to manually hex the .dll each time I want to use another version , since the programme will pass on everything I want to the main.exe . I still need to figure out how to disable some ports that left. I wanted to ask why do you use 2206 and not the first version 11.x.x. ? Do you really think chinese are fixing Chromium bugs ? lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergiaws Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I downloaded repacked version using the Cixert's link as I told. It currently won't be my default browser, but it could be before some time. I use it with some pages such as web.skype.com and similar pages, because their functions used to work better with Chromium browsers. Roytam do a lot of work with his Serpent and NewMoon (which don't work well with Screen Readers). The compatibility with screen readers is another reason why I'm starting to use 360. Maybe is not the best browser, but we don't have a lot of options. I expect that when 360 will drop XP we will have an extended kernel for XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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