Dave-H Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 OK, I did all that, in fact I cleared everything on Internet Explorer except my browsing history, which surely can't be relevant to the problem. No difference, same error message. Log is attached. WindowsUpdate.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroSkipper Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) @Dave-H I have compared your log to mine. In your log you can see: 2022-01-29 12:28:25:312 1860 cc4 Misc =========== Logging initialized (build: 7.6.7600.256, tz: -0000) =========== 2022-01-29 12:28:25:312 1860 cc4 Misc = Process: D:\WIN-NT\System32\svchost.exe 2022-01-29 12:28:25:312 1860 cc4 Misc = Module: D:\WIN-NT\system32\wuaueng.dll 2022-01-29 12:28:25:312 1860 cc4 Service ************* 2022-01-29 12:28:25:312 1860 cc4 Service ** START ** Service: Service startup 2022-01-29 12:28:25:312 1860 cc4 Service ********* 2022-01-29 12:28:25:343 1860 cc4 Agent * WU client version 7.6.7600.256 2022-01-29 12:28:25:343 1860 cc4 Agent * Base directory: D:\WIN-NT\SoftwareDistribution 2022-01-29 12:28:25:343 1860 cc4 Agent * Access type: Named proxy 2022-01-29 12:28:25:343 1860 cc4 Agent * Default proxy: https=127.0.0.1:8079 2022-01-29 12:28:25:343 1860 cc4 Agent * Default proxy bypass: <local> 2022-01-29 12:28:25:343 1860 cc4 Agent * Network state: Connected In my log you see a difference: 2022-01-29 14:26:34:093 1128 b38 Misc =========== Logging initialized (build: 7.6.7600.256, tz: +0100) =========== 2022-01-29 14:26:34:109 1128 b38 Misc = Process: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe 2022-01-29 14:26:34:109 1128 b38 Misc = Module: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll 2022-01-29 14:26:34:093 1128 b38 Service ************* 2022-01-29 14:26:34:109 1128 b38 Service ** START ** Service: Service startup 2022-01-29 14:26:34:109 1128 b38 Service ********* 2022-01-29 14:26:35:140 1128 b38 Agent * WU client version 7.6.7600.256 2022-01-29 14:26:35:140 1128 b38 Agent * Base directory: C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution 2022-01-29 14:26:35:234 1128 b38 Agent * Access type: No proxy 2022-01-29 14:26:35:578 1128 b38 Agent * Network state: Connected Here are my IE LAN-Settings: HTTPSProxy switched off: https://imgur.com/TRquakL HTTPSProxy switched on: https://imgur.com/w19OXo2 https://imgur.com/iuu80if So switch to HTTPSProxy and do the same settings. You can do it by clicking Inet_CurUser_ProxySettings.reg Switching on and off by SysTray icon. Important first screenshot. Automatic Configuration both options are unchecked. And check your hosts file if it is clean related to MU. And in background ProxHTTPSProxy may not be loaded. Post your Windows Update Log once again. Edited January 31, 2022 by AstroSkipper deletion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I don't see why something would work in HTTPSProxy that wouldn't work in ProxHTTPSProxyMII, as far as I can see they are pretty much the same program! AFAIK my configuration settings are correct for ProxHTTPSProxyMII, it seems to work fine everywhere else. I am a bit puzzled that although we both have our proxy servers configured for https connections only, not for all connections, they are still apparently active when we are using http connections for Microsoft Update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maile3241 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Dave-H said: I don't see why something would work in HTTPSProxy that wouldn't work in ProxHTTPSProxyMII, as far as I can see they are pretty much the same program! AFAIK my configuration settings are correct for ProxHTTPSProxyMII, it seems to work fine everywhere else. I am a bit puzzled that although we both have our proxy servers configured for https connections only, not for all connections, they are still apparently active when we are using http connections for Microsoft Update. As far as I know only https works via ProxhttpsProxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maile3241 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 @Dave-H Which antivirus do you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroSkipper Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, AstroSkipper said: So switch to HTTPSProxy and do the same settings. You can do it by clicking Inet_CurUser_ProxySettings.reg Switching on and off by SysTray icon. Important first screenshot. Automatic Configuration both options are unchecked. And check your hosts file if it is clean related to MU. And in background ProxHTTPSProxy may not be loaded. Post your Windows Update Log once again. I want to compare your system to mine. Without HTTPSProxy I can't do that. AFAIK your connection error is related to synchronizaton and you've got other setting than me. We have to do trial and error. For comparing systems they have to have same structure. And our logs speak a clear language. We have different proxy settings. Beyond that MU is connecting to a https version of fe2.update.microsoft.com although you've loaded http version. You can see this in the log. If you want to solve your problem perform the steps above. And you know you can have installed both HTTPSProxy and ProxHTTPSProxy. They have different certificates and both are portable. None of them will harm your system. I use both and they are working properly. The only thing you have to take notice of is not runnig both in RAM at once. Due to the fact that I have installed ProxHTTPSProxy Rev 3d we can't compare these versions and my test partition has still to be installed. Edited January 29, 2022 by AstroSkipper addition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 @maile3241 I use Malwarebytes Premium, the last XP version. @AstroSkipper OK, I'll fire up HTTPSProxy, switch off ProxHTTPSProxyMII, and replicate your settings. You're absolutely right that we need to be comparing two systems that are as similar as possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroSkipper Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 @Dave-H Although our ProxHTTPSProxy versions are different here are the equivalent lines of my Windows Update Log if ProxHTTPSProxy is doing its job: 2022-01-29 19:24:30:015 1128 b1c Misc =========== Logging initialized (build: 7.6.7600.256, tz: +0100) =========== 2022-01-29 19:24:30:140 1128 b1c Misc = Process: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe 2022-01-29 19:24:30:140 1128 b1c Misc = Module: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll 2022-01-29 19:24:30:015 1128 b1c Service ************* 2022-01-29 19:24:30:140 1128 b1c Service ** START ** Service: Service startup 2022-01-29 19:24:30:140 1128 b1c Service ********* 2022-01-29 19:24:30:875 1128 b1c Agent * WU client version 7.6.7600.256 2022-01-29 19:24:30:875 1128 b1c Agent * Base directory: C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution 2022-01-29 19:24:30:890 1128 b1c Agent * Access type: No proxy 2022-01-29 19:24:31:078 1128 b1c Agent * Network state: Connected And you can see MU recognized No proxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbodi1406 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Adding g_sconsumersite manually to fe2.update url (to open MU site) prevent the redirection loop with www.update url http://fe2.update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en&g_sconsumersite=1 the site opens in Win 7 / 8.1 too (not that it would work) Edited January 29, 2022 by abbodi1406 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maile3241 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, abbodi1406 said: Adding g_sconsumersite manually to fe2.update url (to open MU site) prevent the redirection loop with www.update url http://fe2.update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en&g_sconsumersite=1 the site opens in Win 7 / 8.1 too (not that it would work) We have already deactivated the redirection. But thanks for the tip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroSkipper Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, abbodi1406 said: Adding g_sconsumersite manually to fe2.update url (to open MU site) prevent the redirection loop with www.update url http://fe2.update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en&g_sconsumersite=1 Thanks! Good find. Works flawlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpandvistafan Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 hours ago, abbodi1406 said: Adding g_sconsumersite manually to fe2.update url (to open MU site) prevent the redirection loop with www.update url http://fe2.update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en&g_sconsumersite=1 the site opens in Win 7 / 8.1 too (not that it would work) Great find! Now we have a backup if ever Microsoft decided to break the current method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpandvistafan Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) It also makes the Windows Update website load in 2000 as well, since the Trusted Sites method does not work for 2000. Although I wonder if ProxHTTPSProxy will work on 2000 with Extended Kernel. Edited January 29, 2022 by xpandvistafan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maile3241 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) On 1/29/2022 at 10:05 PM, xpandvistafan said: It also makes the Windows Update website load in 2000 as well, since the Trusted Sites method does not work for 2000. Although I wonder if ProxHTTPSProxy will work on 2000 with Extended Kernel. Works for me too. Only the search fails because there is no patch for W2k yet. Edited February 18, 2022 by maile3241 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpandvistafan Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, maile3241 said: Works for me too. only the search fails because there is no patch for W2k yet. Hmm, mine seems to need a file called msvcr90.dll to install the certificate. Do you have that on your system? Edited January 29, 2022 by xpandvistafan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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