kdsg Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) windows 98 no support sata drivers for HDD,is posible to install windows 98 in usb flash drive (no livecd) ? Edited July 17, 2013 by kdsg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Yes. It is possible.It has been done... I never did it, though, so I cannot help with it, sorry.It's way easier to install XP to run from a pendrive than it is to get 9x/ME to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rloew Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I have a SATA Patch for Windows 9x.I have installed Windows 9x on a USB Key. No other USB Devices will work with the configuration I used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Yes. It is possible.It has been done... I never did it, though, so I cannot help with it, sorry.It's way easier to install XP to run from a pendrive than it is to get 9x/ME to do the same.Actually, it has been (was) a nightmare to find a way to boot a 2K or XP from a USB pendrive (you seem to forget that until Dietmar's findings in 2006 noone ever made it).Comparatively, running a USB with Windows 9x is relatively simple and there were solutions for it since some time.Right now the 911CD forum is (for whatever reason) down, I'll see if I can find some relevant links through Wayback Machine.BUT the OP (or his post) is confused/confusing.Using the SATA patch (if needed) or configuring the BIOS as IDE compatibility mode I remember not any problem with SATA disks , the real thing is (I know that I will be flamed for this ) on modern hardware it makes a lot of sense to run Win9X/ME inside a VM as it is much easier than getting all the various patches for new hardware, have it work, etc., etc.A Win9x/Me inside a VM is - say - normally running at 1/3 to 1/2 the speed it would run "natively" on the host machine, but this would be anyway as fast or faster than what an original "top level" machine would have run it in the years it was "mainstream".jaclaz Edited July 17, 2013 by jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Of course, I'd never forget we'd probably not have done it yet, were it not for Dietmar Stölting! And, BWT, I've never done it with 2k either, but I've done it many times with XP, and I'm very familiar with some of the variations of the method for running XP from a pendrive.But that's beside the point. The OP apparently is thinking of either SATA or USB pendrive.If so, SATA is much easier: it's a matter of buying RLoew's SATA patch, installing it and one's all set.Or, in the rare cases for which there're manufacturer's drivers (the ViA 8237 and derivatives, for instance), just install the driver.However, only a handful of SATA I controllers have manufacturer's drivers for 9x/ME. No driver exists for SATA II, let alone SATA III, controllers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdsg Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 I do not buy any software for personal usethis is the reason to run windows 98 in pendrivefor use dvd sata drivers using gcdrom.sys probably worksi have to find another solution for sata HDDrloew why not put all software as freeware for personal use ?or opensource accepting donations, your domain is free hosting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneCrusader Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) I do not buy any software for personal use this is the reason to run windows 98 in pendrive for use dvd sata drivers using gcdrom.sys probably works i have to find another solution for sata HDD rloew why not put all software as freeware for personal use ? or opensource accepting donations, your domain is free hosting Then don't use Windows 98 either, because it isn't free. And don't complain when you can't find the things you want or need, because everything in this world is not free, nor should it be. rloew deserves proper compensation for providing excellent products, and we should all be thankful that he is dedicated to extending the capabilities of the old systems that we all love, and that he is willing to spend his time working on Windows 9x, when there are many things more profitable that he could spend his time working on. Edited July 18, 2013 by LoneCrusader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rloew Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 your domain is free hostingFree, if you don't count advertising, premium nagging, etc.Would you prefer if my Software were free but plastered you with advertising, or constantly nagged to upgrade to a Pay Version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Anyway, here is the "main" reference:http://web.archive.org/web/20100121020816/http://www.911cd.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=12326Later, a Winimize project was made, ideas/tips/tricks/news/references, etc. are likely to be found here:http://reboot.pro/topic/18728-winimize-site-restored/http://reboot.pro/forum/53-winimize/And here:http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/140391-windows-98-live-cd-project-update/Here is a video tutorial (base - might not work if too much RAM or too fast processor is in the machine, see the stickies for solutions): jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTS Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Well my two cents is that being a flash drive you can pretty much make it go threw the IDE, and you would have no problem. The only problem would be a flash drive with an internal ROM chip, that causes isssues. I think their are memory solutions as well, but you need an outside power source. Running it from the actually port can work if it is supported as a boot option. Ever tried to just format a small patitian, then make a magical copy the partitian from your HD to a USB? Then just run it from there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I have a pen drive I can boot from into Windows 98SE, but as with rloew earlier, I can't use any other USB devices in that configuration.I have to use a PS/2 keyboard and mouse for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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