FDV fileset for XP

[jaclaz]

Is there a master list of core XP files that XP absolutely needs?

I know you use an alternate shell and I fully understand why, I'm just looking to see if there is a minimum list for the regular MS Explorer shell.

Not a "full" list AFAIK, but I guess such a list can be "derived" from comparing a "very basic" winbuilder project (with cmd.exe as shell) with a corresponding project (with "full" explorer as shell), or probably more easily just from the "Explorer .script for LiveXP".

Here:

http://livexp.boot-land.net/

http://livexp.boot-land.net/LiveXP/Basic/S...Explorer.Script

Threads by the Author Ove for the "history" and "bugs solved/features added" (older last):

http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2270

http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=993

http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=270

http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=185

http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=157

http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=137

http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=125

http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=81

http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=33

and "official" history:

http://ove.boot-land.net/explorer.html

Most probably you want to look into "earlier" versions that provided "basic" functionalities.

jaclaz

P.S.: also NOT what you are asking for, but maybe something to keep an eye on :

http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...c=23618&hl=

Edited February 4, 2010 by jaclaz

[Martin H]

Thanks alot for sharing this, FDV

I will tryout your fileset later, but first i'm trying to locate what reducer/file(s) borks procmon with Tom's HFCLEANUP reducers...

I'm glad you've added winnt(32) install-support, as IMHO, then the best thing about that, is that we can use BartPE as a stub-loader for formatting C:(while leaving D: alone) and then calling winnt32 to start the install (I hate having a complettely unattended cd EXCEPT for the formatting part)

Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for your efforts, mate!

CU, Martin.

[Hu$tle]

Where are the instructions to get this working. You said put the files in i386. I did that, now what?

[fdv]

"Where are the instructions to get this working. You said put the files in i386. I did that, now what?"

Using this with HFSLIP is preferred, but if this is all you want to do, then you're all set.

In other words, you copied the files into i386, so now you're good to go -- you download or make a boot sector and make a bootable ISO or CD and install.

[Martin H]

Hi again, FDV!

I'm just sitting and looking through your INFs and i really like what i see and am looking forward to testing it out

Anyway, i just wanted to ask you something, though...

When keeping the IE core only, by uncommenting 'ie.inf,DeletePartial' in syssetup.inf, then to me it looks like that the following addreg sections still are added: ie.addreg.opt, ie.addreg.runonce (from ie.inf,FullInstall)...

Shouldn't there then not also be added a delreg section under 'DeletePartial', or alternativelly another commented-out entry under infs.always: ie.inf,CoreInstall...

Edited February 5, 2010 by Martin H

[fdv]

Shouldn't there then not also be added a delreg section under 'DeletePartial', or alternativelly another commented-out entry under infs.always: ie.inf,CoreInstall...

You're right, and I changed the file on 2/2. This section now says:

[DeletePartial]

DelFiles = ie.system.opt, ie.appdir, ie.triedit, ie.vgxcopy

The SYSSETUP stuff actually is correct, but does look weird, I know.

Try re-downloading. Sorry for any confusion

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

You are awesome fdv. My friends will love to get the junk WinXP install off their computers. Thanks

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Please insert the disk labeled Windows XP Professional in drive A:

This is the message I get. Please tell me how to fix this. I don't have xp professional, only XP SP2.

[jaclaz]

Please insert the disk labeled Windows XP Professional in drive A:

This is the message I get. Please tell me how to fix this.

Check tag files first thing:

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=114695

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=98177

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=111302

I don't have xp professional, only XP SP2.

What do you mean?

jaclaz

[Martin H]

You're right, and I changed the file on 2/2. This section now says:

[DeletePartial]

DelFiles = ie.system.opt, ie.appdir, ie.triedit, ie.vgxcopy

The SYSSETUP stuff actually is correct, but does look weird, I know.

Try re-downloading. Sorry for any confusion

I think we're talking past eachother

In IE.INF then 'DeletePartial' deletes files which 'FullInstall' copies over, but 'DeletePartial' dosen't delete the optional reg-entries which 'FullInstall' sets...

I did redownload and the revision where set-2b, just like yesterday...

[fdv]

Thanks, PROBLEMCHYLDE

As for the insert disk... that is very odd. In fact the only time it could ever happen due to the file mods I made in TXTSETUP is when win51ip is missing, so the most likely cause is an INF file, a different one, that requires the root files that jaclaz is referring to.

Try adding not only the required files:

WIN51

WIN51IP

WIN51IP.SP2

But also add two more, just in case:

WIN51IP.SP1 and WIN51IP.SP3

Make them all single byte at least. They should not be empty. Put at least one character in them and save them before you proceed.

Maybe I should remove the requirement for the root files altogether.

BTW, since you are using SP2, you are going to get some file copy errors (as in "press ESC to ignore") and they are nothing really to worry about. I really, really recommend that you slipstream SP3 though.

Martin H, ah, I see what you meant now. Ok, I will make the necessary change.

I admit IE.INF is a kludge.

You want to know the truth here -- if I prevent install in the first place like I really want to, the 'minimize to desktop' icon next to the start button doesn't get created. The reg entries to make it are in AXANT5 but one of the IE DLLs actually sets the stage. I am not sure which one... if anyone wants to find out which DLL needs to stay through setup to allow the show desktop icon to be made, it would help me greatly! Then I wouldn't have to do the "install IE first, delete just before first boot" method that is rather boneheaded.

What's everyone findings so far? Anyone not using nLite that is, which would make you rare indeed!!

Anything that is broken? Any software that won't work? I have system32 down to, what, 270megs or so, and I am still optionalizing things. I've been isosizing all week testing various configs. It's scary how many network dependencies there are in XP. I mean if you just look at it funny, networking stops working. It's ridiculous.

Anyway, I plan to use this myself pretty soon as I'm pretty comfortable with it.

Edited February 6, 2010 by fdv

[tommyp]

If you need the show desktop icon in the quicklaunch area, you can put a CMD file into hfsvcpack. Look at the last paragraph of secton 7 of the hfslip's hfcleanup description. There's a download zip file that contains a CMD file that sets you up nicely.

[fdv]

That's the trick I used in the win2k fileset; I was looking for the DLL, wanted to try something new I guess, but really, I might as well do what I did before.

While I have you reading this TP what's your immediate take on eliminating the need for the WIN51* root files? The fileset only needs one now; it would eliminate instances of accidental noninclusion or deletion.

Feels odd communicating this way (for the rest of you TP and I usually communicate 98.7% via email and 1% via going outside and yelling really loud)

[tommyp]

Don't forget the bongos for communicating too. It's far too windy to see the smoke signals.

My take on the sourcess ident files is that the hfslipwu.inf needs win51 there (for xp only). I think layout.inf has something about ident files, but not sure about the rest of the msft setup infs.

[Ambassador]

You want to know the truth here -- if I prevent install in the first place like I really want to, the 'minimize to desktop' icon next to the start button doesn't get created. The reg entries to make it are in AXANT5 but one of the IE DLLs actually sets the stage. I am not sure which one... if anyone wants to find out which DLL needs to stay through setup to allow the show desktop icon to be made, it would help me greatly! Then I wouldn't have to do the "install IE first, delete just before first boot" method that is rather boneheaded.

Does it really matter? One only has to right click on the taskbar and click "Show Desktop/Hide All Windows" instead.