Mim0 Posted January 28, 2010 Author Posted January 28, 2010 hi Mim0! the link to Update for Internet Explorer 8 Compatibility View List for Windows XP (KB978506) in the table does not point to the dl ... the link posted by Parseus does. cheers!Hmm.. for me with IE8 it works. Which page do you see?My link:http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...de-b13d80877558Parseus' link:http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...;displaylang=enshould be the same...PS: what's with the openDNS-test (the last PM to you?)
My2GirlsDad Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 2010-01-27b- Fixed: KB951978 is NOT obsolete when IE8 is integratedMimO,FYI, KB951978 does not show missing if not in HF folder.M2GD
Mim0 Posted January 29, 2010 Author Posted January 29, 2010 FYI, KB951978 does not show missing if not in HF folder.Have you setOPT=1in the INI? Reporting optional updates are not the default-setting.Regards, Mimo
Kiki Burgh Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 hi Mim0! the link to Update for Internet Explorer 8 Compatibility View List for Windows XP (KB978506) in the table does not point to the dl ... the link posted by Parseus does. cheers!Hmm.. for me with IE8 it works. Which page do you see?My link:http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...de-b13d80877558Parseus' link:http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...;displaylang=enshould be the same...PS: what's with the openDNS-test (the last PM to you?)hi Mim0! both links from the 2010-01-27 row lead to: A Compatibility View list update is available for Windows Internet Explorer 8: January 26, 2010 & Description of the Compatibility View list in Windows Internet Explorer 8 ... comparing it with the other entries from activity log table, the others lead to dl page ... however, the 1 from table 4 does link to the dl page ... sorry if i wasn't very specific ... my apologies too for not getting back to you rightaway via pm ... appreciate what you provided me ... the link now though to the update list from windows update thread comes up now with no problem ... cheers!
jvidal Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 FYI, KB951978 does not show missing if not in HF folder.Have you setOPT=1in the INI? Reporting optional updates are not the default-setting.Regards, MimoBut Mimo, 951978 is NOT optional, should be reported if not present.
Mim0 Posted January 30, 2010 Author Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) Have you setOPT=1in the INI? Reporting optional updates are not the default-setting.Regards, MimoBut Mimo, 951978 is NOT optional, should be reported if not present.Yes... it's a kind of naming. In my tables all updates which are not "security-updates" are "optional". I can change the name of the "OPT"-setting to "LIST-ALSO-NON-SECURITY-UPDATES" but it will have the same result. I know MS also have the "important" state (like WGA which is "very important", yes ). But I don't know which update is "important".PS: I have it ready to check for an update of hfslipfc and download it automatically (all can be configured in the INI) Edited January 30, 2010 by Mim0
jvidal Posted January 31, 2010 Posted January 31, 2010 I believe those are called "Important" in your tables...Optional means optional...
Mim0 Posted February 1, 2010 Author Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) I believe those are called "Important" in your tables...Optional means optional...I confirm that it can be missunderstood... There are two ratings from MS. A security-update (MS..-...) has a severity (written in the bulletin article). This is listed in table two of the update-list.But when you visit Windows-Update or Microsoft-Update the updates are categorized only in "important" and "optional". Of course, the security-updates are in the "important"-section. But also non-security-updates. And other non-security-updates are "optional".And I don't know where it's written wich non-security-update is "important" and which non-security-update is "optional".I thought about that and to avoid missunderstandings I will remove the word "optional" from the list. But when someone can tell me for all non-security-updates if it's important or optional - I will list it. Edited February 1, 2010 by Mim0
Guest Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 They are categorized into High-Priority and Software, Optional. I do my list using this method. Anything else doesn't really make sense to me, You could setup Windows with all important updates and WU/MU will have a bunch of updates wanting to be installed. High-Priority is the way to go IMO.
Mim0 Posted February 1, 2010 Author Posted February 1, 2010 They are categorized into High-Priority and Software, Optional. I do my list using this method. Anything else doesn't really make sense to me, You could setup Windows with all important updates and WU/MU will have a bunch of updates wanting to be installed. High-Priority is the way to go IMO.Yes, "High-Priority" I wanted to say (in German the "high-priority" category is call "important" - of course the german word for "important"). So, as far I understand, I have to install a plain SP3 (w/o) any updates and see in which category the update is listed. OK...
Mim0 Posted February 1, 2010 Author Posted February 1, 2010 They are categorized into High-Priority and Software, Optional. I do my list using this method. Anything else doesn't really make sense to me, You could setup Windows with all important updates and WU/MU will have a bunch of updates wanting to be installed. High-Priority is the way to go IMO.Yes, "High-Priority" I wanted to say (in German the "high-priority" category is call "important" - of course the german word for "important"). So, as far I understand, I have to install a plain SP3 (w/o) any updates and see in which category the update is listed. OK... ---EDIT---Oh, or I look into YOUR list
jvidal Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) I think the point is to keep MU completely happy with all high priority updates, that's the whole idea behind hfslip. So, if an update is listed under "high priority", like 951978, then IT IS high priority and NOT optional...bye! Edited February 1, 2010 by jvidal
Mim0 Posted February 2, 2010 Author Posted February 2, 2010 (edited) I think the point is to keep MU completely happy with all high priority updates, that's the whole idea behind hfslip. So, if an update is listed under "high priority", like 951978, then IT IS high priority and NOT optional...Yes, so everybody has it's own understanding about integrating updates in the installation-media (for me, e.g. WGA can be listed 1000x as high-priority but I would never integrate it). But to make it more clear and easier to understand I will modify the list and the file-checker by splitting the currently "Optional" updates to "Priority" and (really-) "Optional" and I confirm that this categorization can help others to decide wich non-security update shall be integrated.Thx for your suggestions Edited February 2, 2010 by Mim0
jvidal Posted February 2, 2010 Posted February 2, 2010 Of course there are a few exceptions, like that OGA or WGA crap, but this is not the case.I think that naming convention change is appropriate.
Mim0 Posted February 6, 2010 Author Posted February 6, 2010 - Added: DirectX 9 Feb 2010- Removed: DirectX 9 Aug 2009- Removed: Extra-check of WMP11-installation-file against extracted WMP11 in HF\WMP11-folder (it's done now with the configurable dependency-check).- Added: Dependency-check for WindowsXP-KB967715-x86.reg: only listed as missing when using KB967715.- Added: Adds a new type: H for high-priority-updates. For this the INI- settings was modified. With "HIGH-PRIORITY" and "OPTIONAL", listing missing updates can be (de)activated. OPT is obsolete now (when using it, a hint will be displayed). When still using OPT it sets both new INI-settings ("HIGH-PRIORITY" and "OPTIONAL") to be compatible with the old behaviour.- Added: Checks for updates of hfslipfc and d/l it (all with corresponding INI-settings).Because of some new INI-settings the easiest way is to let hfslipfc create a new ini (if you don't want to use the new features you can use the old ini). Each new setting is well-documented enough inside of the INI (hopefully ).Regards, Mimo
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