Sfor Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 My own little messy contribution...There is no such thing as a general 32GB limit on W95. I know Microsoft have written that in the KB, and a few bits of W95 may not work properly, but these are all started by the user's action and can be replaced by free equivalents. And the 137GB barrier is strictly defined by the Bios and can even be overriden by some drivers (Intel chipset). I could install W95b on a 160GB Raid-0 without any precaution.The 137GB barrier is very real on many 9x systems because esdi506.pdr, the FAT32 filesystem driver, has a bug in it. If you attempt to write above 137GB on an unpatched system you'll crush the data at the beginning of the disk.As for the 32GB barrier in Win95 I dunno because I am not knowledgeable enough with 95 but BenoitRen will be able to tell us probably if you are right or wrong.There is no 32GB limit in Windows 95. I've been running a Windows 95 OSR 2 on a 60GB HDD without any problems.On the other hand I had data corrupted, when I switched to 160GB hdd. Since there were no 137GB patch available then I had to switch to Windows 98 + Intel Application Accelerator driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submix8c Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) fyi (re 137gb barrier, in addition to rloew's 98se patch which some people swear by)http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=78592support for 95OSR2+, 98FE, 98SE, 98MEas I said, pick yer own pizen, pardner!@rloew (ref. below) - check! Edited May 25, 2009 by submix8c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rloew Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 jaclaz Posted Today, 06:50 AM FYI (loosely related to rloew's report):http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2343Interesting article on 32-Bit DOS. Thanks.I developed a CDROM that boots Windows 98SE from RAMDISK without needing any Hard Drive.I avoided the Long Filename issues by doing an image copy to my RAMDISK.There is no 32GB limit in Windows 95. I've been running a Windows 95 OSR 2 on a 60GB HDD without any problems.The limit was in the original driver not OSR 2.fyi (re 137gb barrier, in addition to rloew's 98se patch which some people swear by)http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=78592support for 95OSR2+, 98FE, 98SE, 98MEas I said, pick yer own pizen, pardner!My Patch supports all of the Operating Systems you listed, not just 98SE.It also can Patch the original Windows 95 Driver fixing the 32GB limit as well.The verify feature would be important to many people who don't want the risk of corruption if the Patch is accidentally overwritten.The author of the Patch you listed, has been banned, and is no longer supporting her Patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) The author of the Patch you listed, has been banned, and is no longer supporting her Patch.The day LLXX was banned is a day best forgotten. She is very bright and gifted, but unfortunately has also the unfortunate and incontrollable ability to get herself banned from forums, this one not being the only one she managed to get banned from. This said, I'd like to point out that her patches are, by now, time proven to work flawlessly. I, myself, have been using the one for esdi_506.pdr v. 4.10.2225 for quite a long time now, without any issues. On the other hand, I do use and value very highly RLoew's patches and non XMS-ramdisks. He also solved the general case of the SATA problem, for which there are no free drivers available, except for Via and Intel chipsets. So, in my view, we're fortunate to have both LLXX's and RLoew's patches available to the community. I do wish RLoew remains active and available to us for many years. And I do lament LLXX is not available anymore (in fact, she now seems to have fully disappeared from the English language web, as far as I can ascertain). Edited May 26, 2009 by dencorso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I developed a CDROM that boots Windows 98SE from RAMDISK without needing any Hard Drive.You are not the only one. FYI:http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=10623http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=12326http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showforum=53jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rloew Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I developed a CDROM that boots Windows 98SE from RAMDISK without needing any Hard Drive.You are not the only one. FYI:http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=10623http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=12326http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showforum=53jaclazMaybe not, but I bet I am the first to fit 32-Bit DOS into a standard Floppy Disk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinStacey.x Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 You want a cookie for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Maybe not, but I bet I am the first to fit 32-Bit DOS into a standard Floppy Disk.How much are you gonna bet? No, thanks, I don't like easy money. FYI:http://web.archive.org/web/20040107022513/...e.com/xdos.htmlOr you actually did it BEFORE July 14, 2002 and are telling about it after 7 years? B) jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rloew Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Maybe not, but I bet I am the first to fit 32-Bit DOS into a standard Floppy Disk.FYI:http://web.archive.org/web/20040107022513/...e.com/xdos.htmlOr you actually did it BEFORE July 14, 2002 and are telling about it after 7 years? B) jaclazDoing it with ME is a lot easier than 98SE due to the smaller IO.SYS. There wasn't much documentation on how to set it up.He had files in it that predate Windows 95 and several files that were not needed. One file needed to be moved to another location.He didn't leave enough room for a Registry. Without a Registry, IO.SYS will look for one on the Hard Drives and can crash if it finds one.It also needed my RAM Limitation Patch to run in a 4GB RAM Machine.I have written hundreds of Programs and Packages before July 14, 2002 that I haven't posted in a forum. This wasn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluberti Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 LOL - ok, argument was funny, laughed enough at the last response that I had to post something completely useless. Like LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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