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Neither Hotmail nor MSN are on the block list. Perhaps there is a technical reason, such as the email provider marking the forum emails as junk. There are two users in validating who have an MS email but neither are from Australia. If you want to PM me the email address you tried to sign up with, I can take a look see.

Welcome to the MSFN! The days of Windows Updates breaking things are still the current days!

I wanted to post into here an experience I've had with my development machine, it is quite possibly "solved" but the things done to fix it do not line up. Hopefully either the problem is solved OR the problem returns but has a more definitive error to work from. And the reason why I wanted to post it as a thread is because I do not know if the issue is related to SSL. For the backstory, this computer is SKYLYNXV2 which has Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 with minimal updates. It is a fairly recent installation as it did have Win7 32bit as of 2019 when the system had an "incident" that required a rebuild. The system has been decent since that time with no real issue. Possibly unrelated, but not certain, the only issue that has been seen in the past month or so: - Ebay pages in Iron tabs would randomly crash immediately or after a few minutes of being open. Say open up 5 tabs, 1-2 of those would crash with the "Aw snap" message. Reload fixed. This morning I was doing my browser work as usual when suddenly I get a MEMORY_MANAGEMENT bugcheck. Rebooted, checked the .dmp in windbg, nothing really sticking out other than the crash was caused by chrome.exe. Ran memtest for 2 hours, no errors. Boot back into Windows, check eventvwr, nothing special besides SChannel (which is SSL related but there isn't any way I can find that points to what app/process received the error on what file or location that prompted the log to be written) and WMIC error relating to the processor... and some other computer on the network rejecting the Master Browser request. Open Iron, bugcheck 0xD1 pointing to USB. Restart, try Firefox, same error. Eventually determined that it was not the sole act of opening a browser that caused the bugcheck, rather going to a page that required SSL. What does that mean and why would going to an HTTPS site cause the USB driver to crash the OS? I only have keyboard and mouse. So i want to check for virus, run Malwarebytes but it complains that an update is missing. It tries to go online to get the update but again... 0xD1. The complete process that has (currently) resolved the issue of getting bugcheck when trying to visit HTTPS website is: - install KB4474419 v3 (the update Malwarebytes wanted, name was stored in the log file in AppData for the installer) - run malwarebytes (it only finds false-positives) - clear cache/history/etc from Firefox and Iron - update the driver for the USB Controller (was using the stock "2006" MS driver, updated to one from 2014 from Intel) Now everything is back to normal. So now the thing to point out here is that KB4774419 is a sha-2 code signing update which was the reason why I wanted to post this, considering there has been a lot of talk on the forum about it lately. And I really hope that the "windows crashes when visiting websites" isn't actually fixed by installing an SHA-2 code signing update and installing a 7 year old USB driver. Did some deadline relating to certs come to pass from May 14th to 17th? Or is it just a coincidence?

C202 doesn't seem right. But this probably isn't a router per-se, it is more likely a cable modem. Do you know if they own it or it is leased from the cable company?

You match the capabilities of the wifi card/device to the existing router. You say they have a router now, but do not say what model. From experience: since a desktop is largely immoble, you want to make sure that the desktop's current location is good for using wireless. You can easily test this by seeing what kind of signal strength you get at the location at the back of the computer (or wherever the antenna would be) with a cell phone. See if that location can even get a good signal. If the location isn't good, then you may need to get a different router, a repeater and/or determine what is causing the issue in the environment. For any wireless add-on you'll want something with an antenna, and also probably one using a standard connection. Some of the USB ones have a built-in antenna. If you have one with the standard connector (such as with a PCI card) then you can use an extension if having the antenna directly on the card isn't good placement.

If you told me 20 years ago that in 2021 I'd have a television in almost every room, I wouldn't believe you. At least I don't have a computer in every room. :p

That sounds like a better idea that to have to determine what you want your empty WSUS to be, physical or a VM.

Want to add this, because it is missed by a lot of people but there was a separate IE for Embedded OS. This IE does not work properly on retail OS and the retail IE does not work on the Embedded OS. As such, the updates are different and you should be very careful when crossing them. IE should not be treated like the OS where people cross channel the updates. For example, using retail IE on the Embedded OS would result in portions of the OS not working. This is only really an issue for XP and Vista related embedded OS. I do not know anyone who has tested embedded updates for IE on retail IE on retail OS, so it is impossible to know if they even work even if they do not cause a problem. And considering that times are changed from back then, it may be impossible to test properly since websites are not built for those browsers anymore.

You need to dig through the Task Scheduler to find the things that check for updates or turn the disabled options back on. A lot of these tasks are under the SYSTEM or TrustedInstaller security context and/or execute in Session 0, so they are not visible to a regular logged in user, even one in the Administrators group. Also wanted to add, I have a theory that you could point your computer to a WSUS with no updates in it to prevent updates.

The sharing of OS files or modified OS files of this type cannot be posted here. Security Certificates are about trust and modified certificates break that trust. For files that are still available on the MS Update Catalog, another MS website or in an archive, there is no need to repackage a download for them. Just post links to where they are. For people who want to know how to change certificates on their personal systems, or to fix or create drivers, you can post tutorials for people to learn how to do that themselves.

For the song thing, not sure if it is related, but I wonder about audio files with unicode characters in the file name or ID text. I've known some audio players not being able to play those, or others (like winamp) just shows garbage characters but you can still play the audio.

Outlook was terrible since at least Outlook 97, with that default setting to execute scripts on message load or preview pane thing. I only used webmail or Thunderbird since then and will never use Outlook again (except OWA) no matter what.

Put me in the "never" category. Which is not entirely true. On my first ever computer I had to do a format and reinstall because I deleted some partitions and then the OS wouldn't boot. And I've done repair installs on XP due to changing motherboards. But in general I've never understood the "practice" and I know many people who swear by it.

It is only on the original release of Entertainment Pack or vol 1. There are floppy images on archive.org that contain it such as this one: https://archive.org/details/MicrosoftEntertainmentPackForWindowsVolumeOneGateway2000Edition1990 Here is a link to the only v1 I can find on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/324465832878

IE (or the components within it) became intertwined into the OS perhaps as far back as IE4. And as time went on and when the OS came with it, more and more functionality we pushed through the IE engine. Windows 10 is a giant kludge of updates going back years as MS has never started over. Layers upon layers of things added on to get where we are today. Many of the features from old OSes are still in Windows 10, even if they are no longer used or not apparent. We are basically at a point where Windows would not operate if the Internet Explorer components were fully removed from the system.

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When they say it has been removed from the system, they are incorrect. The option is pre-set in the BIOS build and they simply removed the option in the menu to change it.

If you didn't have the system already in place, it would take a lot of work up front to be able to accomplish it. However, there is another option that I forgot to mention. This falls into the technically possible sector rather into what is supported. What you need is: - a second computer - a WinPE v3 of some sort (from Vista or Win7 WAIK, do not use ADK for 8-10) - a Vista install DVD - a USB or CD/DVD with the USB, storage and LAN drivers (INF type, not installers) Using the second computer, disconnect its HDDs and connect the HDD for the system you want to install the OS on. Install Vista onto it. When the install does the reboot and then boots from the HDD instead of the DVD, the OOBE screen appears. Chosing nothing, you press CTRL+SHIFT+F3. Then the computer will reboot into Audit Mode. When in Audit Mode, you use the sysprep box to check the box for generalize, the choose OOBE and Shutdown. You can choose restart but if you let the OS boot into Windows you have to start the entire process over. Basically, the only system you want to boot into Windows after using Sysprep is on the system the HDD is supposed to be for. Either after the reboot, or after powering on from shutdown, this is the step in which you boot from the WinPE. And here you will use Driver Servicing to add the storage driver, lan and USB drivers for the target system into the offline OS on the HDD. Use diskpart to verify drive letters to make sure you are installing to the correct volume. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/dism-driver-servicing-command-line-options-s14 After each is added, then you shut down the system. Remove the HDD and put it into the system you want it to be in. If you did it correctly, when you get back to OOBE your mouse and keyboard will work.

Samsung 860 EVO appears to be a SATA SSD. As for whether there is something particular with the disk that will make it so that it will not function properly in the notebook, it is difficult to tell. I can't really find anyone trying to use the two things together. On the surface I would say there would be no issue, but know that saying this isn't an endorement that it will work. The one thing that I can tell you about this is that your notebook's drive bay was specifically designed for whatever size HDD it was sold with. Be aware that some SSDs are actually thinner than HDDs. The difference may be that if there are any pads on the drive chassis (if it uses one) they may not be sufficient to keep the SSD from moving. You may need to use additional padding. You won't know this until you get the drive in hand and try to install it.

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Findfast would cause this type of problem with floppy disks. Do not know if it also does it with other removable media types.

You should try to match timing and speed of the memory, and size if you want dual channel. But to be honest, if the purposes you use the computer for are such that you wouldn't notice the memory running at a wrong speed, then it doesn't matter. If you are playing modern games or doing engineering or video editing, then you want to have everything match.

Then there is even more reason to try connecting to a secure site that is also set for a future date. As in my previous post, my personal concern is the ability to connect to routers. A person could, say, set an old router to a future date, enable SSL and then connect to it via an XP computer with the same future date. That should eliminate any issue with the client date being wrong vs the server date. And when I am talking about old routers, pretty much any Wireless B/G router is going to be using the old certificate when SSL is enabled. Also, this is not a task that I am fit to perform. My Win XP system is a custom build and it does not have the updates that are in common amongst users here.

If you had a Vista image, you could image the disk on anything and then put the disk into the system.

Would be interested to know whether this effects trying to log into networking devices that use old TLS. The only reason why I keep an XP system around is to be able to log into "secured" routers, which is something that my modern systems cannot do since they removed the ability to recognise the certificates those devices use.