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The differences that you give in your post are to small to call Win98se the winner! Just 11 points with 3DMark and 46ms with Prime is nothing. How big are the actual differences with this Metabench?

In that case you don't need a virusscanner at all anymore. Online scanning with Kaspersky or Trendmicro (both very good tested) will do. These will also take care of trojans and spyware, better than antivir and a lot better dan AVG. Besides, isn't it very easy to remove the word "realtime" from the quote above? Does it really change the possible meaning and effects and are you willing to risk that? I'll stick with a realtime-scanner (AVG).

Personally I don't think it's needed to go up at all, you can still run Win98 fine if you like. I really don't believe that XP is saver to use because it's still supported. But you have to stop wining now. Win98se has been supported for more than 7 years now and that's long enough. I think that Micrcosoft has been very responsible in this matter.

July 11, 2006 actually http://www.msfn.org/comments.php?shownews=17613 No, end of support means that there won't be any new updates anymore. I can't find anything on ending windowsupdate for win98.

Well, 60°C idle is certainly too high but he's having problems with the dxdiag 3D test and 3dflowerbox screensaver already. That shouldn't heat the GPU in such a way that it wil cause errors. GPU's can get very hot. You can burn your fingers on the heatsink from a good functioning videocard. Call me an id*** if you wish (for burning my fingers) If it's really not a driverproblem than I'm afraid this card is broken.

Your right about the method to use, but wrong about the CAB file. He's using WinMe not Win98

more info here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/sup...tp/default.aspx Takes up to 500MB diskspace....wtf Dotnet2.0 is 116MB on my system and that was like a lot to me already.

I have a fine working €2,95 optical Sweex mouse. Still to expensive?

He thought right. There is a free trial version that runs for a limited period. http://www.nero.com/nero7/eng/nero7-demo.php

You put the old fileversions in your systemdir. This is the default place for these files so winupdate wants to replace them (again). This can't be stopped. You need to keep the files in your systemdir intact and put the old ones somewhere else. These files need to be registered so explorer.exe will use them without hanging. See here how Wijono figured this out: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...mp;#entry452384

No, I didn't have to redo anything. (And I used windowsupdate) Just as I expected since you solved this problem so elegant. Yes browseui.dll 6.0 in c:/windows/system/ is updated but explorer.exe is still using the 5.5 version in c:/windows. The newer versions are only loaded when you start IE. Btw; is your browseui.dll 6.0.2800.1692 also dated 18-06-2005 ??

That would be great. I was already wondering about this, reading what Ms has to say about themselves doesn't make anything clear to me. They say it's a new bug but they don't tell anything new compared to the old one.

5 updates for win98 on windowsupdate have arrived! (including a wmp9 update). Nice surprise I think, unexpected. To bad for the extra TSR (again...) but its better than nothing. Urlmon.dll version is updated to 6.0.2800.1550. Winupdate still works on my system, hope this will be the same for other activeX apps.

Considering how close that deadline is, i can see how they wouldn't want to make any more patches. Yes, less than one month to go for customers who paid 6/7 years ago. Thats not sabotage but plain economics. I keep using Win98 anyway. I like the simplicity from Win98se and the DOS mode. Simple=control=save. When the security thing is mentioned, I say one word. Rootkit. edit: 4 updates for win98 om windowsupdate. End of my theory...

Well, here's at least one Maybe I'm the only one because ATI is so bad when it comes to driver-support for win98, I can tell after always using Nvidia before. Last Catalyst version for Win98/ME is 6.2 date 09feb2006 (post-date on ATI download site is wrong, link points to 6.2) . But if you want FSAA in NFSU2 you have to go back to 4.7...... Anyway, I have a Radeon 9600pro. I use 5.9 because with 6.2 my 3D performance drops 15%! This is in benchmarks like Aquamark and 3Dmark2003 and also in plain fps in games. 15% gone just like that. I tried installing 6.2 over 5.9 and completely removing everything prior to 6.2 install. Reinstalling chipsetdrivers and directX didn't help as well. Everything works and looks fine but with a 15% lower 3D performance. In any case I tried to make 6.2 work, reverting back to 5.9 solves the problem. I reported this to ATI support about 3 months ago, still waiting for reply....

Thanks, by far the most easy, fast and elegant way to do (and undo!) this.

And see what they say about it now. link: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...Date=2006-04-11 Seems that the support for Win98/ME has ended already.

Yes he does, it's on his site: link

Well, Nero 6/7 work fine on Win98se in my case. But you better buy a retail version if you want commercial software. For ordinary data-burning I prefer to use Deepburner, completely free and 6MB instead of 60 Mb for Nero 6. It can erase/burn dvdrw and that's all I ask from it. For DVD-RAM no software is needed for burning/erasing. Only a UDF-driver and a formatting tool is needed. Drag and drop is the way to use it. However, you won't have this if you buy a oem drive. Perhaps it's on the manufacturer's website, but LG for instance has removed them. In such case you can only try if other brand drivers might work with your drive. (notice the difference between manufacturer and brand )

It can be removed without format, quite simpel. I did because of the mentioned problems. Change first and second IDE controller in devicemanager to the windows default. Reboot. Then remove the Via Bus master IDE controller from the devicemanager. After reboot the windows default drivers are installed. Now you can reinstall the normal Via 4in1 (Hyperion) drivers without the IDE miniport 3.20b. This solved all my issues like no smart, no Nero and stupid drive id as SCSI. I have seen no troubles with register-enties or disk errors whatsoever. I really seem to have recovered after the VIA driver disaster using this method.

Sorry you are so right, I must learn to read

No you didn't, there's no video on the mainboard as well. Why you need this extra USB card? This ís present on the mainboard. Remove this from your list and you wil save money to buy a little more expensive mainboard with a decent video on it.

In some cases Win98 runs with >512 MB ram but refuses to install with it. So you might need to remove some memory from the system and then place it back after install.

The defaults are fine, you can choose the 7z format instead of common zip for higher compression. But zip is easier if you ask me cos its more compatible.

As said before,try new/other IDE cables. Test your memory for errors, also a common cause. Others could be: bad IDE controller, bad PSU.