OK, thanks for the reply. Sorry about all my confusing slightly-non-HFSLIP-related questions, but... 1. What switches instead of /Q:A /R:N do I use for a passive install. 2. So, if I just use "setup_wm.exe <switches>" from wmp11.exe (and then install wmfdist11.exe), I'll be fine? 3. If installing/slipstreaming/integrating this, do you still need wmfdist95, KB911564, and/or KB917734? Yes, there's WAY WAY too much bloatware in there! Oh my! Not only did they have bloat in the form of playlists, they had to pack another whole load of junk into six EXEs and a CAB inside the already-bloated package.