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I take it that you've never installed an operating system from scratch before. The drivers for your hardware will be installed when you do the OS installation, as they have to be for it to work! Other drivers will only be installed later if you add or change hardware. Install Windows XP SP3, and once you're completely happy that this installation is working correctly, then update it with SP4.
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No, it's not a complete installation, it's an update for an existing Windows XP installation, the same as all service packs are. You need to have a Windows XP installation disk, or another source of the installation media, to make a new Windows XP installation, and then update it with the service pack.
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Yes, I upgraded from Windows 8.1. I resisted it for quite a while because of all the negative things I heard about Windows 10, the perceived lack of privacy with it sending a huge amount of data back to Microsoft, and the forced Windows Updates, and I never like the idea of using the very first version of anything anyway for obvious reasons. Also, of course I resented the way that it was being pushed onto people! By the time I came to update, the Anniversary Update had been rolled out, so that's what I got. I have no idea what Windows 10 was like before that. It does seem to work well and is very stable, and in many ways the UI is better IMO than that of Windows 8.1, which was still far too biassed towards the use of touch screens. Had I been a Windows 7 user I might well have thought very differently of course, but as I've never used Windows 7 (or Vista) I could only really compare it with Windows 8/8.1, and I do think that 10 is better, once you've used the obvious enhancements like Classic Shell and have got the colour scheme the way you want it. Personally I think that Windows 10 "out of the box" looks absolutely hideous! So I haven't regretted doing the change, hopefully I will be future-proofed now as far as it's possible to be in this business, as I assume and hope that my hardware will always remain compatible with Windows 10, which MS still maintain is now the final version of Windows, as OS X seems to be for Macs. I am, I hasten to add, still a very long way from using Windows 10 as my default OS. I only really use it when I have to run a 64 bit program. I'm sticking with XP for as long as I can for my general everyday use.
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As far as I know, the Windows 10 "upgrade" is still free if you just say that you are using accessibility features, which is what I did. There's no check, they just take your word for it! Officially if you look online to upgrade, you do now have to pay, and it's not particularly cheap, especially the Pro version.
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You're late, that was posted by @Sampei.Nihira three hours ago!
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Well I wouldn't see them here in England until tomorrow (Wednesday) morning anyway. As I have Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and Windows 10 installations, I will be interested to see what appears, if anything, on some all or none of them! I'll be a bit surprised if any Flash updates, and the Malicious Software Removal Tool, aren't rolled out to the last three at the normal time anyway.
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Hmm, is that just for POSReady/WEPOS systems, or for all Windows systems? It does seem a bit vague!
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Root Certificates and Revoked Certificates for Windows XP
Dave-H replied to heinoganda's topic in Windows XP
I get those updates regularly as well. I think this was mentioned before somewhere way back in the thread, and they are actually something else, and you do still need to update using Heinoganda's program, or another method. -
Strange, my Firefox 50.1 hasn't offered to update itself to 51, I guess I'll have to force it. Good news that things still work in the beta of 52, let's hope that remains the same for the release version! Edit: Strange, I just checked "About Firefox" on my installation of 50.1, and it said it was up to date! 51 does officially support XP I assume?
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Need help with chaning logon screen via registry
Dave-H replied to amit_talkin's topic in Windows 10
Thanks den, but I think I found that article when I was searching before, it is from 2015. I think the fundamental problem is that things were changed with the Windows 10 Anniversary update, and the settings detailed there don't now actually change anything. The article has not been updated to reflect that. You can change the user lock screen image, which you see when you log off, but you can't change the default lock screen, which you see when you boot up, unless you have Windows 10 Enterprise. Those settings don't do anything now even in Windows 10 Pro, you're still stuck with that wretched cave image! -
Just to add, I ran XP for several years with the Program Files and Documents and Settings folders moved to other locations and re-named, with no problems. I did have a dual boot system, which made it a lot easier. I just copied the folders to the new location using Windows 98, and then went back into XP and searched and replaced all the relevant registry entries, which I had Registry Workshop installed to do easily. Worked fine, with no problems. I moved them back to their default locations a few years later when I had re-configured my drive setup, and again no problems.
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I have Office XP installed, which is Office 2002, so you have an even older version of Word than me! I think if you have any Office programs installed, even standalone ones, you will be offered the Compatibility Pack. Without it, it would be impossible to work with documents generated in later versions of Word.
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Just for interest, there was as I thought the usual Malicious Software Removal Tool for Windows 7, 8.1 and 10, and a Flash update for 8.1 and 10 this month. There was also the now usual all-in-one cumulative security roll-up for Windows 7 and 10, but strangely there wasn't one for Windows 8.1! Incidentally, I'm assuming that the updates for the Office 2007 Compatibility Pack will probably end this year, if they haven't already. I think 10 years after release is the nominal maximum length of support?
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Does that mean that it will stop working for those of us who already have it installed if we install the update to Firefox 52? I see they are dropping support for some other plugins with that version too. Can we use Google's Widevine Content Decryption Module, which seems to now be the supported alternative? Does it work in Windows XP?
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Well that must be a first! I guess probably nothing for us at all this month then, unless there are Office 2007 Compatibility Pack updates for those of us who have it. Also, I would have thought that later versions of Windows would still get the Malicious Software Removal Tool this month. I'd be very surprised if that was skipped. Flash will probably be updated on 8/8.1 and 10 as well.
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KernelEx 2022 (Kex22) Test Versions (4.22.26.2)
Dave-H replied to jumper's topic in Windows 9x Member Projects
As I understand it, you still have to have KernelEx 4.5.2 installed to be able to use the later versions, as they are updates to that. I think 4.5.2 gives the system the basic functionality of KernelEx, and the later updates supply later dlls for it to work with. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong! -
Indeed, but I actually had KB2973115 installed (I thought), and I still had the problem! Anyway, to make the netbook and main machine the same, I've now uninstalled KB977354 from the main machine and (re)installed KB2973115 on it, which has replaced KB2756918 in the Add/Remove list, as expected. Still no prompts for further updates. That has restored six of my files back to the versions they were before. I will do the same on the netbook. What do we think about KB977354? I'm not being prompted to install it again. It looks from its KB page to be a very complex update, relevant to a lot of things that are not directly .NET related as far as I can see.
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Just out of interest, I compared what .NET 3.0 SP2 updates were being shown now on my netbook compared to my main machine. The main machine now shows (in listed order) - KB2756918 KB2861189 KB977354 KB960043 KB3188734 The netbook now shows (in listed order) - KB960043 KB2861189 KB3188734 KB2756918 So KB977354 is missing from the netbook, the others are the same, although the order is different. If KB2973115 contains later replacements for the files in KB2756918, do you reckon I should install it? As I said earlier, a fair few files on the main machine (I have no way of checking the netbook) are now earlier versions than they were before.
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Thanks, that's good to know that the Baseline Security Analyser at least is still valid in this scenario. I'm using version 2.2 though, and have been for years.
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It is strange that most of the .NET updates that you posted here to manually update post EOS XP SP3 systems were never actually offered by MS Update at all, even with the hack. The most recent one was the first for many months. Thinking again about the MS Baseline Security Analyser, and Belarc Advisor, am I right in assuming that both these systems will not recognise the hack, and will therefore treat the system as a native XP SP3 system? If so, they will not take into account any subsequent updates, even those served my MS/Windows Update, and will report the system as being up to date even if further updates are actually available, either through the hack from MS/Windows Update, or manually.
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@heinoganda LOL, I thought you'd probably say that! I have now rebooted, and MS Update still says I don't need any updates. I've also scanned with Baseline Security Analyser and Belarc Advisor, and they both say that I'm up to date and not missing any updates. That being the case, I think I'll leave things as they are unless any more problems rear their heads, like updates coming back again. Interesting what @Yellow Horror said, as KB2973115 was one of the updates that was originally in my Add/Remove Programs list that I uninstalled. There's no evidence that it's been reinstalled, but KB2756918 is now in the list, even though from what Yellow Horror said it's older than KB2973115! Bizarre!