Dave-H

Yes, they do take a very long time to install, especially the updates for .NET 4. I've never had a problem installing them though.

They did. The last version I have is from August 2016, version 5.39.12900.0. You can come out now!

Quantum won't work on XP though, if it did we'd all be using it! I did try Maxthon a while ago, and while it was a very interesting browser (the ability to switch between using the Chromium rendering engine and the IE Trident engine was especially bizarre I thought!) it does use a very old version of Chromium, at least it did when I tried it, which IMO made it potentially less secure than Firefox 52.

Thanks, thank goodness it's not an intrinsic problem! I ran Firefox in Safe Mode (which I should have tried in the first place of course!) and it was fine. By process of elimination, I discovered that the problem was being caused by Adblock Plus, which had updated to a new version without me realising, which must have triggered the problem. I've disabled it on Facebook, and all is now fine. Why it was only causing a problem with Facebook and not apparently anywhere else is a mystery, but all is well again now!

Is anyone else using Firefox 52.9 ESR suddenly having terrible problems with Facebook? All other sites seem to be OK, but Facebook has suddenly become almost unusable, with constant freezing of the pages and indeed the whole browser. After a very long wait, Firefox eventually pops up a notice about an unresponsive script. If I close the script, the page response immediately returns to normal, but unfortunately the problem comes back immediately if I go to another page on Facebook. I just want to see if anyone else is seeing this, so I can try to eliminate if anything else on my system might be causing it. Thanks, Dave.

And me for two!

Thanks @heinoganda, I'll probably just leave the program in the internet security program's exceptions list rather than switch off any of its functions. It seems to be fine like that. Cheers and thanks again, Dave.

Thanks! Unfortunately, when I ran version 1.6, it was immediately blocked by my internet security program. It didn't actually delete the file, but it stopped it running. I've had to add it to the exceptions list. This has not happened with any previous version. Sadly the internet security program doesn't seem to have logged its action, so I can't see what it thought the problem was!

It's in the Naraeon\SSD Tools folder with all its other files, at least it is on my system! It's in my Services list as "Naraeon SSD Tools - SSD life alerter".

The SSD life monitoring driver NSTDiagSvc_New.exe crashes for me when the system boots. It slows down the boot and ends up not running. If I then run it manually it seems to start fine. Is anyone else finding this?

Sorry for the delay in responding, but yes, that additional entry fixed all the error messages!

Tried it out, it says that all of my SanDisk SSDs are unsupported!

Thanks, I added those entries and the error messages are gone! This is what I'm seeing now in HTTPSProxy - [23:28] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [23:28] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443] [23:28] 003 [D] "GET https://news.google.com/news?q={searchTerms}&sourceid=opera&num=%i&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8" 301 0 [23:28] 002 [D] "GET https://www.google.com/search?q={searchTerms}&sourceid=opera&num=%i&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8" 302 315 [23:28] 001 [D] "GET https://www.google.com/search?q={searchTerms}&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest" 302 324 [23:28] 007 [D] "GET https://news.google.com/search?q=%7BsearchTerms%7D&sourceid=opera&num=%25i&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8" 302 0 [23:28] 006 [D] "GET https://search.opera.com/?search={searchTerms}&global=no" 302 262 [23:28] 008 [D] "GET https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q={searchTerms}&sourceid=opera&num=%i&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8" 200 - [23:28] 009 [D] "GET https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q={searchTerms}&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest" 200 - [23:28] 005 [D] "GET https://www.amazon.com/s/145-7872646-0478402?ie=UTF8&index=blended&keywords=%7BsearchTerms%7D&link_code=qs&tag=opera-20" 200 - [23:28] 010 [D] "GET https://www.google.com/sdch/4orahf3u.dct" 200 - [23:28] 010 ProxHTTPSProxyMII FrontProxy/v1.4 [WinError 10053] An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine [23:28] 000 [D] SSL Pass-Thru: https://sync.opera.com:443/ [23:28] 004 [D] "GET https://com.com/" 200 - [23:28] 012 [D] "OPTIONS https://plex.tv/pms/:/ip None" 200 0 [23:28] 014 [D] "GET https://plex.tv/pms/:/ip" 200 15 [23:28] 013 [R][D] "GET https://plex.r.worldssl.net/announcements/announcements.json?cb=1538173710824" HTTPSConnectionPool(host='plex.r.worldssl.net', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /announcements/announcements.json?cb=1538173710824 (Caused by NewConnectionError('<urllib3.connection.VerifiedHTTPSConnection object at 0x03772FB0>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno 11001] getaddrinfo failed',)) [23:28] 011 [D] "GET https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?hspart=Opera&hsimp=yhs-international&p=%7BsearchTerms%7D" 200 - [23:28] 000 [D] SSL Pass-Thru: https://www.google-analytics.com:443/ [23:28] 000 [D] SSL Pass-Thru: https://www.google-analytics.com:443/ [23:28] 000 [D] SSL Pass-Thru: https://www.google-analytics.com:443/ [23:28] 007 [D] "GET https://news.google.com/search?q=%7BsearchTerms%7D&sourceid=opera&num=%25i&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8" 302 0 [23:28] 015 [D] "GET https://news.google.com/search?q=%7BsearchTerms%7D&sourceid=opera&num=%25i&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&hl=en-GB&gl=GB&ceid=GB:en" 200 - [23:28] 015 ProxHTTPSProxyMII RearProxy/v1.4 [WinError 10053] An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine [23:28] 016 [D] "GET https://search.yahoo.com/favicon.ico" 304 - [23:28] 015 [D] "GET https://news.google.com/search?q=%7BsearchTerms%7D&sourceid=opera&num=%25i&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&hl=en-GB&gl=GB&ceid=GB:en" 200 - [23:28] 000 [D] SSL Pass-Thru: https://autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443/ [23:28] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [23:28] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443] Still some apparent errors there, but nothing in the Windows logs. Cheers, Dave.

Yes, this is what I'm seeing in the HTTPSProxy console - [21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 039 [D] "POST https://sync.opera.com/api/sync/command/?client=Opera&client_id=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" 200 261 [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 022 ProxHTTPSProxyMII FrontProxy/v1.4 [WinError 10054] An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host [21:31] 023 ProxHTTPSProxyMII FrontProxy/v1.4 [WinError 10054] An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 041 [D] "GET https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easyprivacy.txt?_=1538166666207" 200 123845 [21:31] 040 [D] "GET https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easylist.txt?_=1538166666206" 200 637620 [21:32] 042 [D] "POST https://autoupdate.geo.opera.com/ 1037" 200 - [21:32] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [21:32] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443][21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 039 [D] "POST https://sync.opera.com/api/sync/command/?client=Opera&client_id=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" 200 261 [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 022 ProxHTTPSProxyMII FrontProxy/v1.4 [WinError 10054] An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host [21:31] 023 ProxHTTPSProxyMII FrontProxy/v1.4 [WinError 10054] An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 041 [D] "GET https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easyprivacy.txt?_=1538166666207" 200 123845 [21:31] 040 [D] "GET https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easylist.txt?_=1538166666206" 200 637620 [21:32] 042 [D] "POST https://autoupdate.geo.opera.com/ 1037" 200 - [21:32] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [21:32] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443] I guess this is the problem!

OK, I've found out what's triggering the error message, it happens now every time I run the Opera 36 browser. This is the last version which works on XP. I have sync enabled, and I can only assume that connecting to Opera's servers for this is causing the error message, but I have no idea why.

I'm now getting this intermittently in my Windows System log - Is this another certificates problem? The information in the data section of the error means nothing to me I'm afraid! I'm still getting problems in my Eudora e-mail program, despite using the certificate updater and HTTPSProxy. I had an e-mail from Plex the other day about some new offering, and it took literally nearly a minute to open in Eudora! The e-mails from Sky and Marks and Spencer only take about 30 seconds, but that's bad enough. They all look perfect once they're opened, but what could possible be taking so long to resolve when downloading them?!

Strange, the last update I've got that can't be removed is from 2010! I'm not sure why an update from 2013 is shown highlighted in that screen grab.

Thanks again Rudolph, yes I'll certainly give that a try if I'm still getting problems. I got a notification for your posts OK.

Thanks, I haven't knowingly changed my notifications for years, but I thought it was possible that the outage a few months ago might have scrambled things, so i checked, and it looks correct. Those are my settings, and they look like what I want, with a separate e-mail for every added post.

I got a notification for your post as well, but nothing for the previous eight before mine, but that may have been because I didn't visit the forum again until I next posted. Are the certificate errors you're seeing just about a name mis-match? If so, you can just switch those warnings off in the internet settings.

I've now set up a scheduled task to run @heinoganda's certificate updater automatically on Patch Tuesday every month. I'll leave the automatic updates turned off unless and until someone reports that it's fixed. I hadn't realised that they were doing the same thing anyway! When updates happen, is the old certificate information replaced with the new information, or will any old certificates that aren't in the new update remain on the system? Is anyone else getting e-mail notification from this thread BTW, as I don't seem to be, although I am getting them from other threads?

You've got me wondering now whether the notifications from MSFN do actually work that way! I know they do on some forums I subscribe to, but thinking about it I may well have had multiple notifications from the same thread in the past without having visited the thread.

I have both those entries in my Add/Remove Programs. Searching for the winusb.dll file brings up the same version (6.1.7600.16385) in system32, but there are copies of the file in two other folders relating to connectivity software for mobile phones, both my old Nokia phone and my current Samsung phone. The copy in the Samsung folder is older (6.0.6000.16386), the one in the Nokia folder is the same as the one in system32. If you have similar software installed that may well be where it came from.

It seems to be very erratic for me. I've had quite a few e-mail notifications during the last few days, but before that it seems I wasn't getting them as I checked to see if there were any responses to a post I'd made, and there were several which I hadn't been notified about! You don't get a notification for every post anyway, only for the first one since you last visited, but even that did not seem to have happened. Touch wood it's OK at the moment though, at least for me.

Thanks, so I guess switching off the automatic updating system and just using the manual updater when prompted (or on a regular schedule) is the answer. I'm actually quite relieved that this does not seem to be a problem just on my systems, and is actually yet another problem caused by Microsoft's flaky updates! Actually I've always been surprised that we're getting the automatic updates at all, but I assume this is for the benefit of "real" POSReady systems, which are still supported. If enough people with them complain about the endlessly logged errors, perhaps it will get fixed, but I'm not holding my breath!