NotHereToPlayGames

I never play video on the computer any higher than 30fps! It is my perspective that anything higher on a COMPUTER is just ASKING for trouble. That's why my computer monitors cost $50 or so when my big screen TV costs $200 or so. And those are "cheap" by most people's standards. I am NOT a "gamer" and I don't have any use for the "high-dollar high-end" market. If you want 4k video on your computer, then you need to pay for a "gamer" system even though you don't play "games".

I personally avoid "PosReady" updates like a plague of locusts!

I would try to UNINSTALL your mouse driver and let XP use the "generic" driver instead. If that solves it, then try DIFFERENT drivers for your mouse. Newest driver is not always the best driver!

Are you using v13.5 build 2022? I am assuming that you are since we are in the 2022 thread. Can you try v13.5 build 1030 instead? It is very odd that I can play that ENTIRE video with ZERO dropped frames and throttle all the way down to 8 Mbps and yet you drop 1156 even at 360p. Also, you didn't cite how many processes you have running (unless I missed it, I see msfntor's post but not seeing yours).

That's good download speed. The higher, the better. I connect here at home at around 180 Mbps if on LAN (which I never use! I find wi-fi to be more "secure") but at 25 to 45 Mbps when on wi-fi (depending on how many devices are online). Anything over 25 Mbps seems more than adequate for 4k hi-res streaming. A dropped frame here or there doesn't mean too much, every dropped frame is not a crackle in audio or a lag in video, you have to drop DOZENS of frames "back to back" before you get a crackle or lag. The number of dropped frames is NOT IMPORTANT. The RATE at how fast you drop a frame IS important.

Open Developer Tools (F12) Go to Network Tab Click the "Online" dropdown that is on the second line Click the "Add..." at the bottom of the dropdown list Click "Add custom profile..." Set a Profile Name and set the Download speed Close the Network Throttling Profiles with the "x" in the upper right corner Click the "Online" dropdown on the second line again Select the profile you just added (will be in the "Custom" section) Refresh the tab for the settings to take place

V13.5 build 1030: ZERO dropped frames. And that was with me throttling my internet connection all the way down to 5 Mbps (edit - correction, I was throttling at 8 Mbps but the speed test was only showing a tad over 5 Mbps - point is, even that low, I had ZERO dropped frames) - Perhaps we should have started here - are you running any anti-virus? Or how about how many "processes" does your OS run? How many other tabs are open?

During the freeze, hit the keyboard Esc key and see if that unfreezes.

Go here and click GO -- https://www.speedtest.net/ What's your download speed?

All so very true! If it weren't for my savings account web site and my water bill payment web site, I'd still be running Official PM 28.2.2 (December 2018) or perhaps even 27.9.4 (July 2018).

In a nutshell, "no". I work within 1.5 miles of our fiber optic service provider and I get "dropped frames". I play 80s music all day long from YouTube and yeah, sure, it's a 2hr 10min video, but I do have TWO dropped frames and I'm 1hr 58min into the 2hr 10min video.

Thanks. That does confirm that both are playing the same codec for an apples-to-apples comparison.

Are you using anything to block remote fonts or anything like that? I have ZERO experience with RetroZilla, I only downloaded it just now just to see if i could duplicate your squares - but I cannot.

The bigger point is that it doesn't matter. No need to over-analyze.

Works for me. You're blocking fonts or something.

Still not liking UBO even in this so-called "hard mode". In uMatrix, I can allow the IMAGE to come in from ibb.co (your Times screencap) without enabling javascript on the same domain that hosted the image. In UBO, once I allow the IMAGE, I also have to enable javascript and iframes from the same domain that hosted the image, it's "all or nothing". I do not trust a site to serve me javascript just because I decide to trust the cite to send me a screencap. Not really an issue for the MSFN example, but a GIGANTIC issue "out in the wild".

I'll be testing with UBO when I get home. When I last used UBO, I was thoroughly UNIMPRESSED relative to uMatrix. That MAY have changed.

Can you right-click a YouTube video in both v11 and in v13.5 and show us the "stats for nerds" screen? Your crackles and choppiness could be due to video format and have nothing to do with v11 versus v13.5.

Yep, I'm aware. But I seem to recall Gorhill also stating that this was "unfortunate". UBO is taylored for the folks that don't want to be bothered with granular control. I'll take the granular "nuisance" and the peace of mind that comes with it. I do not like "trusting" OTHER PEOPLE'S "lists", which is the whole paradigm behind UBO.

I guess I'm not overly worried, to be honest. I'm only "just now" starting to use Win10 and with no "time bombs" with 'older' Chrome and no "time bombs" with 'older' extensions (which I already have locally archived), I'm confident I can get SEVERAL years out of my existing setup. Something similar to uMatrix will surely be available by the time I "need" to worry about MV3. UBO does not meet my needs! Surely I'm not the only one to see UBO as "inferior"? Though "less granular" is probably a better word.

I also have a hunch that by the time I do need to concern myself with MV3, that there will already be several methods to "convert" our archived MV2's to MV3.

Agreed. But there is no "time bomb" built into older versions of Chrome. So I can use "older" versions of Chrome for a very VERY long time before concerning myself with MV3.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm kind of not a fan of resorting to "hundreds" of flags (no, I didn't count how MASSIVE that list is, but it is GIGANTIC, and I will check via that list eventually). My general philosophy is to find the "best performing" in a 'default state'. Generally speaking, the fastest in "default" will also be the fastest in other configurations, provided the same configurations are being compared to each other. I applaud the user-base and we all have our own preferences, but I myself prefer my Proxomitron and uMatrix setup and will "never" resort to anything UBO. So far, my preference is leaning towards GDIChromium v96 x86 (even on x64 OS). There are "newer" versions of GDIChromium, but I do not subscribe to always using the "newest" possible (I think we only shoot ourselves in our own foot when we fall prey to always wanting "newer"). I also like X-Chromium v105 x86 but it removes the ability to disable the "side bar" which I am NOT a fan of that added "clutter" in the toolbar. I may be able to disable/remove that "clutter" once I start modding X-Chromium. So far, I have opted to use GDIChromium but use it inside X-Chromium's "loader" (which may also be usable for 360Chrome, as far as that goes, the two loaders are very similar [360Chrome's is "smaller"]). The GDI is not that big of a deal-maker/deal-breaker for me on Win10 - but GDI is a MUST for me on Win7 (which I rarely ever use nowadays anyway). Either way, my next step is to "ungoogle" GDIChromium v96 and X-Chromium v105. Odds are very high at this point that v96 will serve me well for the next couple of years before web sites start telling me to start using something "newer". Technically, NONE of my web sites require anything "newer" than v86 - but there are much "faster" alternatives for Win10 without resorting to "cutting edge new".

Higher results indicate faster performance. The results are not "seconds".