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No disagreement. Just pointing out that RAM utilization isn't "linear" and I don't think the userbase should "water it down" as such (not "you", per se, just speaking in generalities). We have to consider a "balance" - what good is a browser with a TINY "footprint" but it CRASHES because of excessive RAM with only 10 tabs loaded? I'm just pointing out that if you want a TINY "footprint" then use a browser that does NOT have "tabs". But since this isn't 1996 and we all use "tabs", then we have to find that "balance" Here's another chart. This time with 5 "real-life scenario" tabs - one with 720p streaming audio/video, one with a big Flash loop, one with a Sudoku game, one with a Google Search, and one with a top-rated news headline site. Yes, by "magnitude" newer Chrome versions use more RAM then older (no duh, lol) - BUT if a difference of a few hundred MB is "make or break" or crashes your system, then my advice is to use a browser from 1996 "mileage may vary"

I do not agree that v13 is "more RAM hungry". I believe that v13 utilizes RAM better than v12. And in turn v12 utiilzes RAM better than v11. RAM utilization is not a "linear" process and it's not as simple as just comparing "magnitude", so to speak.

I've finally tracked down my printing issues in 360EE v11, v12, and v13. While I can't speak for WHY this was happening, I found a fix for it nonetheless (only tested in v12 and v13). Whenever I would attempt to print to my wireless printer via 360EE, the browser would LOCK UP requiring a process-kill via Task Manager and a reboot of my wireless router to get the printer back! 360EE would "scan" for printers and find one of my Roku Express HD Streaming Media Players instead! The then-idle Roku would then steal the IP Address for the then-idle wireless printer and 360EE would try to print to the Roku which would just ignore the "data" being sent to it. The "fix" is to disable 360EE's "stupid" print preview 'feature'. In v12, add " --kiosk-printing --disable-print-preview" to the Parameters line in 360Loader.ini and go to chrome://flags and DISABLE "Enable Cloud Printer Handler". In v13, add " --kiosk-printing --disable-print-preview" to the Parameters line in 360Loader.ini, no chrome://flags needed changed in v13. Shew! What a Relief! That was kind of a nightmare, lol.

lol, yeah, I'm aware of the irony. I "cripple" my Google Voice and do track DNS queries. My only excuse is that I *KNOW* when Google Voice is loaded and what traffic to Google occurs. And I *KNOW* when Google Voice is NOT loaded and what traffic to Google is blocked. I can use this very forum as why I have a "curiosity" in 360Chrome - I know others have posted and there's probably a "fix", but I have not gotten that far yet. But I do know the ONLY way I can now POST on this forum is by using CHROME/CHROMIUM. Again, there may be a "fix", it's not that high up my priority list yet :)

I synchronize my profile to a USB file once a month or so and I've *WITNESSED* a file with "telemetry" in the name exist! I'll screen-cap the next time I witness this behavior.

Thanks for the screen-cap. I block ALL of these via HOSTS file so I've not seen any suspicious DNS activity. 0.0.0.0 browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 cloud.browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 dd.browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 qurl.f.360.cn 0.0.0.0 chrome.360.cn 0.0.0.0 ext.chrome.360.cn 0.0.0.0 u.qurl.f.360.cn 0.0.0.0 puv.tt.browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 p.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p0.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p1.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p2.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p3.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p4.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p5.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p0.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p1.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p2.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p3.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p4.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p5.ssl.qhmsg.com I use this to monitor DNS activity - DNSQuerySniffer v1.81 Copyright (c) 2013 - 2020 Nir Sofer Web site: http://www.nirsoft.net All that said, and while I do have high hopes for 360Chrome, I have not used it beyond the scope of "curiosity" because I cannot PRINT from v11, v12, or v13! A browser that cannot PRINT does not fit my needs but I do continue to have high hopes - it is nice for Google Voice to work 100% under Win XP and 360Chrome is the ONLY browser that can do that, to the best of my knowledge.

I'm not seeing anything at these offsets and nor have I seen any suspicious DNS activity (v13 patched with a few of my own hex-fixes). Sometimes "code" can remain in the exe/dll but it not be "called". For example, Roytam builds WILL create a "telemetry" file on occasion but I've not seen it "sent" anywhere (and the userbase tends to "blindly" trust that it isn't being "sent" anywhere). I think this "telemetry" file is also created by upstream Pale Moon but again, the userbase "blindly" trusts that it's not being "sent" anywhere.

v13 repack has been updated to build 2206

This is very much indeed the case for 360EEv13. I can hide and unhide all six of my extensions precisely this way. I suspect it to be extension-specific if this is encountered to not be the case with any extension.

Ah, noted. I only use six extensions and all of them have the unhide option when right-clicking. On another note, if anyone is interested, I stumbled into a very easy way to translate some of the UI settings that the Russian Repack has not yet translated. There is an "options.zip" file in the Application -> version.0.build.0 folder. My IZArc and 7-Zip versions failed (will research/update later), but if you download an evaluation copy of WinRAR and extract that file, you can then make modifications to the "options.html" file then use WinRAR to recompress back as a .zip and whoala, no more "boxes" in your UI. Simply find the "boxes", copy into Google Translate, then paste the translation over the "boxes".

I was able to unhide the extension button by use of the "chrome" skin - I can find the URL if that option interests you. Maybe you could reverse-engineer the skin?

Many thanks again! That DNSQuerySniffer has become quite the godsend! Has helped in tracking down a few phone-homes I was previously unaware of. For example, a few bookmarked websites (such as Roytam's very own o.rthost.win) does not have a "favicon" and I was unware that the browser was pinging o.rthost.win EVERY TIME I LOAD THE BROWSER.

Status Update -- So far, I can claim that I "trust" v13 (repack with newtab disabled). But I can't say the same for v12 - screencap below.

I wouldn't word it that way. #1675 is only a month old. Mypal 27.9.4 (my default-for-all browser-of-choice) is from July 2018.

Anyone else having problems trying to print .pdf files from 360EE? I couldn't print whether default internal viewer (chrome://plugins -> Chromium PDF Viewer) was disabled or not Also tried with chrome://plugins -> Chromium PDF Plugin also disabled (though this didn't seem to make any changes, .pdf still opened as a tab but as an embedded Adobe Reader [my preference so that I have the Adobe toolbar]). @VistaLover - do you have any reason for staying at v12? Reason I ask is that I only recently started trying 360EE and I started at v13 build 2182 and am impressed. BUT it doesn't matter if I use Stylus (tried FOUR different versions) or xStyle (only tried one version), v13 keeps crashing randomly only during editing styles. Although NM28 + Stylem tended to be plaqued by the same nuance.

Awesome! That's exactly what I was looking for! Many Thanks! In 360EEv13, build 2182, patched, the LINK for netlog-viewer.appspot.com is right there on the page for you when you stop network logging. Will monitor off-and-on for several days and report back any suspicious shenanigans. Kinda optimistic, looking forward to an XP browser as modern as Chrome 86.0.4240.198 -- ie, November 11, 2020! Thanks! DNSQuerySniffer looks VERY promising. Will trial-run over the next few days or so. Apologies for doing three posts in a row, never tried the "multiquote" in order to quote two people and figured I'd learn that trick another day. As far as additional 360EEv13 build 2182 patched testing goes, the only oddity I've bumped into thus far is with my primary computer which has FIVE widescreen monitors. DVI, HDMI, VGA (in that order across the computer desk). Then two via USB-to-VGA (mounted above the lower set of three). Only the DVI and the HDMI have desktop icons. The oddity is this, whenever I save a download to the desktop, ALL of my desktop icons and the downloaded file(s) land on the VGA screen. I can work around it, of course. Just really strange is all.

Can anyone recommend/suggest any network traffic programs. ie, to monitor/verify any-and-all connections/requests being made by 360Chrome. From the best I can tell, the Russian Repack isn't doing anything sneaky (once you get rid of the default 'new tab'). But I'd like to test further as I am close to satisfied in that this could become my "default-for-all" browser (including banking sites, which is why I really want to Run The Gauntlet in testing). I'd prefer something that is NOT part of any "firewall" software, if possible. "Portable" would be a plus but not a requirement. Thanks in advance.

Because of the "unwise" comment. But no worries :) <quote> your decision was, in this particular case, an unwise one... </quote>

@VistaLover It's shennanigans like this that are one of about two hundred reasons why NOTHING on my computer "auto-updates". Although on the other hand, I also don't recall seeing any Flash Content from my browsing habits for YEARS. I do have a few Soduku sites and crossword sites on the computer at work, but I don't think they are Flash but can't say for sure from home.

Not really here to debate IT-view Philosophies. So I'll only conclude with this -- there are 10 types of people in the world, those that know why only two images follow and those that don't.

To each their own, but I disagree with your paradigm. NOTHING on my computer "auto-updates" - I hate software on my computer doing things on its own behind my back! But I also acknowledge that it's only the "Type A's" such as myself that will understand that hatred.

Awesome! Works like a charm! Much appreciated! Seems the en-US isn't really required and CWS defaults to English for the .com domain so I opted for https://bit.ly/38xbzbe instead. Yeah, I guess I'll have to get into the habit of right-clicking for my local extensions (left-clicking is the habit because of an "Add-ons Button" extension to perform that task in Mypal / NM). edit: nah, on second thought I opted for left AND right click to BOTH just take me to 'chrome://myextensions'. I only ever use the CWS for setting up my initial profile and only use between 3 and 8 extensions depending on browser then never visit the CWS afterwards.

Been monitoring this thread loosely and finally jumped in for a trial run. Been using the Russian Repack version 13.0.2182.0 for a couple of days and do have just one tweak I'd like to find a fix for. Depending on your skin, there is an "extension center" icon where if you left-click it opens the Russian Chrome Web Store (hl=ru). I have not found where to change this to hl=en -- is this possible ??? If you right-click it opens 'chrome://myextensions/' - I'd kinda prefer the right-click / left-click be REVERSED. Left-click open my extensions, right-click open Web Store -- is this possible ??? edit: ps - I've also found it much more to my liking to DELETE the 'newtab.zip' file in the Application directory then set the startup page to 'chrome://newtab'.

Bingo, that was it, thanks. It was unchecked but I now have that option checked.

@roytam1 Fingers crossed that YOU can fix this as opposed to an "upstream finger-point". In BNavigator (32-bit), the browser's right-click context menu gets in the way of the website's right-click context menu. Three examples are -- 1) Google Sheets (any spreadsheet) 2) Google Docs (any document) 3) https://www.jqueryscript.net/demo/Simple-jQuery-Right-Click-Context-Menu-Plugin/demo/