NotHereToPlayGames

Thanks. I do find it extremely ironic that my FIRST visit to the Mobile Mode crashed my web browser. I had the console open and was comparing network traffic between Mobile and Desktop - bam, the Mobile Mode crashed my browser. But I have been unable to duplicate the crash and the Mobile Mode definitely transfers smaller amounts of data - not sure if I'll default to it over the Desktop Mode as of yet though. Definitely awesome that now I can bookmark which mode I want to use for the session. Though I also observed that once a YouTube cookie was set, my Desktop Mode bookmark opened in Mobile Mode - but that could be a result from the Mobile Mode that crashed during my first visit. Thanks again for the links!

Yes. You have noticed that nobody replied because nobody can reply. At bare minimum, I need to know what browser you are using - the screencap doesn't tell me that. Second, though maybe of less importance, what OS are you running that browser from - the screencap doesn't tell me that. Third, your link is taking me directly to a Google Login - can you provide a link that does not require me to log into Google?

The Basemark Web 3.0 benchmark is really the only "test" I've ever used webgl on. I have never seen webgl used by "real world" web sites (news, banking, music, videos, research, how-to guides, online shopping, you name it), it's only ever used by "here's what webgl can do" sites. Maybe it's used by games but games are for teenagers I have a copy of MAME lying around and a Commodore 64 emulator for "games", never really use them, but they're there if I ever really get bored from "real world" web sites Plus it always pegs the CPU at 90+ percent - why would I want to "enable" a website to peg my CPU? At least that's my POV...

I have no plans on releaseing a v13 build 2250 - I do not subscribe to the "newer is better" paradigm. Sorry.

Skin files cannot be copied between my v13 build 2206 and Humming Owl's v13 build 2250 - I keep the original file structure and Humming Owl merges a few of the skin files into one. Humming Owl's v13 build 2250 error page should be able to be copied over to my v13 build 2206 - I have not verified but I see no reason this should not work. Error pages are "useless", in my opinion, I'm okay with the error code provided in the URL when an error is encountered, that's all I ever need, have never been a fan of browsers having an "oops", "puke face", or "Aw, Snap!" page. I just don't see the benefit/gain of turning an "error" into a "cartoon". I don't get an error for the "back arrow" example (only tested in v12 build 1247).

Bingo! Which tells you just how asinine "those people" are!

Positive I view DEP against this logic -- if DEP worked then there would be no "Geek Squad" at the local Best Buy, there would be no computer-repair at the local Staples, there would be no Malwarebytes, there would be no Emsisoft, there would be no Spybot Search and Destroy, et cetera. Or at least a tiny fraction of the "need" for such things. Things like DEP (enabled by default) and User Account Control (enabled by default) only create a User Base that just clicks "Accept" every time a so-called "Warning Box" pops up because the User Base doesn't know how to look out for themselves, they need their computer to protect themself from themself. User Account Control was by far the worst "idea" ever concocted. How many people do you know that see that so often that they don't even read it? They just click "Accept" and move on. Anti-virus is the same way, constant nag screens and a User Base that just clicks "Accept" because they get tired of all of the false positives. Which, I'll submit, is not the average MSFN Member, especially not the XP Crowd! Think about it this way, I'm one of the geekiest guys on this street, when SEVERAL neighbors need help "fixing" their computer, I'm the one they call. No biggie, it's easy and it's a hobby. But it never ceases to amaze me how often I have to "fix" OTHER PEOPLE'S computers and rid them of viruses WHEN THEY WERE RUNNING AN ANTI-VIRUS PROGRAM that should have "protected them"! The only REAL protection is to know how to protect yourself and stop relying on OS "features" to do that 'for you'. But I digress...

Kinda no surprise there. We have regional dealers that are caught holding back fixes like that more often than you might think. There are 300-some "robots" at the factory and 260-some all run XP (I would be fired if I posted a picture, these robots build electrical parts for BMW, Daimler, and Ford and warranty-only parts for a GM model no longer used in current production vehicles). The funny part is the teenage kids working the factory floor right out of high school, "We could build parts faster if that robot was upgraded to Windows 10." You reply, "XP is actually fastest for this application, it's an embedded OS on a socket-479 90nm cpu running at 1.8 GHz with a 400 MHz bus." Their eyes glaze over like they just missed the bus and have to walk to school.

To ME, no! To "most people", yeah. Or "probably" at the very least. The same can be said for not running any anti-virus program - I hate anti-virus programs with a passion! I've never in my entire life been hit with a virus despite NEVER RUNNING anti-virus programs. It's about knowing HOW to use your computer, what you can click, what you can't click, what you can open, what you can't open, et cetera - you either do this by habit or you don't. If you don't do this by habit, then your computer needs to protect you from you - so don't disable DEP, run an anti-virus, get hit with three different programs asking "are you sure" every time you want to DO something. But if you ARE click-savvy by nature, then NO, you do not need DEP, you do not need anti-virus, you do not need User Account nags, you'll be just fine without having to jump through three different "are you sure" popups.

I also run from an ssd without a pagefile. Only difference between our setups, by the sounds of it, is that I have DEP disabled via boot.ini -> /noexecute=alwaysoff

I'm no lawyer and I haven't fully followed all of this "mud fight", but there are slander laws here in the US where Tobin could serve jail time. And unless I'm mistaken, those laws also could be used by MSFN to sue Tobin for his remarks against this community. But at the same time, why would MSFN want to jump into this "mud fight"? I seem to recall a time where there were rumors that Microsoft was going to "come after" MSFN - or was that nLite, I guess I don't recall because I didn't follow that "mud fight" very closely either. No dog in the fight...

Very interesting indeed! I opened that previous version here and nothing is in bold, unsure why it is bold on your system. I've hunted up and down on how to make the title bar bold because all true XP applications have a bold title bar - but I've never found a way to make it bold.

It all kinda makes my head spin! I find it impossible to follow objectively and unbiased.

I'm opting to skip a Win2k skin. Your needs are quite specialized and you seem to have the ability to resolve this on your end. I'm assuming you have experimented with v13's DPI options?

I think you will need to stick with an XUL-based browser in order to maintain that much control over GUI fonts. Pale Moon / New Moon / Basilisk / Serpent / Borealis Navigator / BNavigator. I've made zero changes to fonts in any of my v13 builds so I have no clue why v13 will (if I understand you correctly) display the GUI in bold in one build but not in bold in another. I know I've seen some bold GUI fonts when I run v13 on Win10, but I've never seen any bold when running on XP.

You gave absolutely zero details that would assist anyone in trying to replicate.

Keep us posted. Note that I have uploaded updated rebuilds in the pinned XP 360Chrome thread.

Updated rebuilds. These are still XP skins, it may be a week or two before I can devote the time to create a Win2k "classic gray" skin. https://www.dropbox.com/s/5b3repgs8ck0zeu/360ChromePortable_12.0.1247_rebuild_2.zip https://www.dropbox.com/s/1fk69d5jhc2vwyg/360ChromePortable_13.0.2206_rebuild_4.zip Special thanks as always to @Humming Owl as the hard-coded portions stem from his builds and he also removed a to-do item from my list with the video and copy-paste tooltip conversions. Also duly note that my previous v13 builds had an issue with downloading .csv files from some sites (such as Google Sheets) and that has been resolved in this build. edit - minor update to v13, link updated to newer upload

Agreed, I leave that out of the public release. Here's what I use -

Within reason. I will leave it to the readers of the forum to decide just which of us is being "reasonable" - both sides have pros and cons. Attempting "zero fingerprints" on the internet? The ONLY way to do that is to NOT be on the internet, PERIOD! The dichotomy paradox - you will never get there! This dog has no interest in chasing his own tail. "To each their own..." "Mileage may vary..."

To the best of my knowledge, none of the Chrome extensions pertaining to themes will work in 360Chrome. I've only tried a couple and not sure if this is true across the board or not.

Oh, so you want a Windows 2000 look instead of an XP look. I'll create a Win2k theme and report back.

You're on the internet, you're on Instagram, you're on Twitter. Don't kid yourself for one solitary second that you yourself have not been "fingerprinted" and stored in a database "forever". Get over it, dude! And PLEASE, I publicly INSIST -- PLEASE STOP HARASSING ME in the guise of "jokes" or "rib-jabs"! This HAS TO BE a violation of forum rules, albeit within a very fine gray area and to individual interpretations!

Can you provide a screencap of something with a "classic gray" color scheme?

I have not tested with Webex. We have a project that will hire six new people and we are targeting Monday, October 4th for the start date on that project. I'll likely not be able to test Webex until then. I tend to default to Win7 for all of my Webex meetings, but I'll be sure to test on XP though you may get an opportunity before I will.