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That makes it very difficult to go from here. I picked three totally at random id's from your list and they all have Vista (and XP) drivers available. But I base that solely on googleing them and looking through the driveridentifier.com list for the presence of Vista. That's usually all I need to do when tracking down drivers for a new install.

I would think that it is possible. It's difficult for my skill level to be able to confirm without the hardware in front of me, admittedly. But I can confirm that I went down an extremely similar road and I emerged victorious. In my case, it was an Acer Aspire X AXC-704G. Comes with Win10 x64 and 4GB DDR3. By using NLite and adding SATA AHCI drivers to my XP x86 and XP x64, I have been able to get both of them to install on a computer too new for XP. I cannot get USB 3.0 to work but it wasn't really a priority and isn't really a necessity for a freebie just being used in the garage to run VLC Media Player. I had to start from ground zero and work my way up. The very first step was deciphering error codes that a BSOD gave me when I tried to install XP without NLite'ing SATA AHCI drivers. That led me to BIOS changes which then led me to SATA AHCI drivers. So from that, can you tell us what BSOD errors you get when you try to install Vista?

Ah ha, we're on to something! Since it is "automated", if the donation is RECEIVED then this is NOT "abandonware". If an attempted donation results in a "404", then this IS "abandonware".

The guy that started the thread has Windows 8.1 x64 listed as his OS. Just as I have my own reasons for running XP, I have no doubt that he has his reasons for running 8.1. So whether or not it runs on 10 or not kinda seems to be a footnote. I have no dog in the fight, I personally disable Aero on my OS's that have it and don't use "Aero Glass". Looks like the software belongs to @bigmuscle and s/he hasn't posted anything on the forum since July 31, 2020. Kinda brings up a curiousity question as I posted the "at-username" -- @bigmuscleisacrybaby shows up when you type @bigmuscle but @bigmuscleisacrybaby is BANNED when you view his profile. It was a curiosity thing - to see those two names you kind of have to go to the profile to see "why" he chose that username -- only ONE post and it BANNED him. I wasn't a daily visitor on March 26, 2020 when that ONE post was posted so it looks like I missed an interesting day, lol. Like I say, no dog in the fight -- only the newfound curiosity on whether a software license agreement EXPIRES or not

I should add -- and the developer has a legal path to prevent the license from "expiring". I'm no lawyer, and I'm sure that laws of the developer's country comes into play, obviously. But I think this is a very interesting question -- do software license agreements last "forever" ???

This article -- https://newtech.law/en/is-a-licence-really-forever/ -- seems to suggest that a license agreement expires after 5 years. The article refers to Article 67 of the Act on Copyright and Neighboring Rights of 4 February 1994. And further down the article cites Article 68 whereby, if I understand it, anybody-and-everybody can invoke the law on "deadware" and terminate any-and-all license agreements on a one-year notice. So, if I understand it, we basically give the software developer of "deadware" ONE YEAR to confirm if the software is in fact "dead". If after ONE YEAR, the developer never steps forward, then the license agreement is null-and-void and is EXPIRED. Kinda of an interesting question - if this is in fact "deadware", then the user that wants to remove that watermark may have a legal path to do so.

Is there a statute of limitations when it comes to software license agreements? For example, patents EXPIRE -- do license agreements? I'll submit that they "should" -- once something becomes 'deadware' then the license agreement should be null-and-void. Or are license agreements some form of "legalease" (I made up that word, I've heard it but not sure how to spell it) so that the developer's great-great-great-great grandchild can sue for infringement some 50 years later ???

It can probably be done using Stylem. Which New Moon version are you referring to?

No biggie. It's not a "competition" and I don't really plan on releasing additional releases. We really don't have enough users to warrant all of the time required on my end.

Speaking of "stability" - here's my most recent stability enhancement. I'm a bit of a .css junky. Stylus/Stylem is one of only six extensions that I use. This stability issue was also huge with Pale Moon / New Moon / Mypal. When you often spend literally hours on end tweaking a daily/weekly-visited web site's .css to your own liking, Stylus/Stylem will crash your web browser when the styles editor is open (no issues when editor is closed). Save OFTEN has become a habit! It has done this for EVERY browser I have EVER used (I exclude BNavigator, I have to create the styles elsewhere then copy over to BNav because it simply doesn't have the same tools as other browsers have). It's also the BIGGEST reason I highly preferred NM27 over NM28. NM28 would crash every 15 to 20 minutes during hours-on-end .css style edits! While NM27 would only crash during a 3hr styles edit, but wouldn't crash with EVERY 3hr styles edit, a crash every other day or so versus every 15 to 20 minutes was a huge improvement - but style edits would crash NM27. Just to be in-and-out of the styles editor never created any issues on most browsers - but to spend hours was an entirely different story - save OFTEN because it WILL crash! Then I migrated from Mozilla-based to Chromium-based. I was ecstatic that the styles editor only crashed once every week or so instead of once every other day or so. But then I witnessed an odd behavior with NoScript and downgraged it to an older version. Which then led to downgrading Stylus to version 1.5.15 (current version is 1.5.19). I found dozens of posts on several forums that complained about version 1.5.17 and those users suggested 1.5.13 - but 1.5.15 seems to work flawlessly for me and I prefer its GUI. Those downgrades were two and a half weeks ago and I haven't had a crash since! A web browser's "stability" is very much-so tied to your extensions, how many you have, and some of the newer ones have too much "feature-creep" and you're better off with the OLDER ones. For whatever that is worth

More stable is a bit of a Placebo Effect - nothing really changed that should effect "stability". @Humming Owl - thanks for this one, Replaced "https://caprogram.360.cn/#plan" entry by "chrome://settings/certificate", I somehow missed that one in my build.

I think he's saying that he didn't add the bookmark, that it added itself and that it landed at the bottom of the list. Sounds like a javascript shenanigan to me - are you running NoScript or just allowing javascript willy-nilly?

Agreed. Things like "mixed content" - we can either jump through hoops to block any-and-all "mixed" content or jump through hoops to whitelist/blacklist (ie, uMatrix or similar). Just here at MSFN, disabling all "mixed" content would make several threads an outright nightmare to follow because we-the-end-user basically have to use third-party "hosts" to embed screencaps into those threads. A thread is "secure" and "unmixed" until somebody has to embed a screencap that is pulled from a third-party "host" and now that "secure" thread is perceived as "insecure" because it now has "mixed" content. And we recently learned that we can make any forum we want "appear" as being "insecure" just by creating a "signature" with an image hosted by a third party.

You can disable mixed content by using command line switches. I recommend all 360Chrome users to learn how to use command line switches. https://peter.sh/experiments/chromium-command-line-switches/

For kicks, I went to Firefox's addons site and right there near the top is Ghostery (1.1 million users), Privacy Badger (0.9 million users), HTTPS Everywhere (0.7 million users), and DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials (1.4 million users). Read those privacy policies! I wouldn't trust DuckDuckGo any more than Google! When EVERYTHING that you type in the address bar is sent to a DuckDuckGo server, I don't care that they claim they don't "save" that data, the fact remains that the data was sent to them, their computers analyzed that data, and they save the "analysis" even if they don't save the "data" that led to the "analysis". Or something like that...

It's more common than you might think! Firefox and Chrome extensions/addons both do this. "Some" users think it's a good thing, the extension needs to "collect" data in order to "improve". "Most" users have no clue.

Cool. Did you notice that you can click on the Google teapot and it pours tea? But you can't click again to get it to stop pouring.

It is a time zone update for me. My State used to have its own Time Zone. When you install XP, you can select my State. But that went away with Win7 and now it's Eastern Time Zone or Eastern Daylight Time Zone - d@mn "spring forward, fall back" bu!!sh!t we have to do twice a year! So yeah, my 360Chrome is off one hour for 6 months of the year.

Wow! He joined this forum and that is his very first post (and only, so far).

When I click the License agreement link at the bottom, it takes me to here --

I think so, absolutely! I use it on my financial accounts! But "safe" is also always a 'relative' term. Ask an Amish person if YouTube is "safe to log into". I would personally suggest doing a little compare/contrast and witness web browser traffic yourself. For WinXP, grab a copy of Wireshark Portable version 1.10.14 (last version to work under XP) from here -- https://2.na.dl.wireshark.org/win32/all-versions/ Or NetworkTrafficView by NirSoft from here -- https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/network_traffic_view.html Or DNSQuerySniffer also by NirSoft from here -- https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/dns_query_sniffer.html DNSQuerySniffer is probably the "easiest". Turn it on, open the browser that you "used to use" when you logged into YouTube, grab a screencap or select-all and copy-paste into a txt file. Now repeat the same task with 360Chrome then compare the two logs.

Great Find! I normally have View Signatures turned OFF in my profile settings but toggling it to ON (temporarily, it will remain OFF as my default) did show MSFN as "insecure" for the threads with the referenced signature.

Guess I'll know more in a little over a month - below is a screencap of MSFN's Cert Info when I click on the (d@mn [apoligies for that "insert"]) "green padlock". I've done NOTHING "intentionally" between 2018 and 6/21/2021 where MSFN's Cert Info lists the start date for when it is "valid from" - so where did this come from as I didn't "install" it? I'll also do NOTHING "intentionally" after 9/19/2021 when MSFN's Cert Info says it will expire - but now I have a logged screencap where I can see what happens with this (d@mn [crap, there I go again!]) "green padlock" on 9/20/2021. I still feel that POS updates are somehow responsible for "breaking" other XP-users certificate stores - I cannot prove this, but it is my gut feeling.

I sure as Hades hope that my system is *NOT* updating them on its own! If I find that it IS, I will put a stop to that immediately! I do not like anything on this computer performing "updates" of any kind, certainly not "automatically and behind my back without me knowing it". My slipstreamed-XP is dated 2018 (I provided the link several posts up). I do not "revoke" certificates so every certificate that existed in 2018 should still be in my "store". I really can't express it any plainer - the "green padlock" system is FLAWED and is nothing more than a false sense of security. I spend zero time on my end trying to make sure that a flawed system is updated. I don't really know how to check my "store" either - but can't really claim to "care to" either. But, for the sake of this "obsession" that MSFN members are having all of a sudden, if anybody needs me to see if I have a specific cert in my "store", give me details on how to find it and I will gladly hunt it down. Otherwise, to the very best of my knowledge, my cert "store" hasn't changed since 2018. I think that 360Chrome has its own "store" in addition to those from 2018 that are part of XP. But like I have stated, several times, it doesn't really concern me. I am VERY thankful that my NoScript, uMatrix, and Stylus are all doing their jobs. Signature lines are axed by Stylus so signature lines aren't "breaking" that green padlock for me - nice to know, but doesn't really concern me.