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Thanks, I will try that "YouTube Redux" eventually. My Chromium v49 on XP uses an extension called "Enhancer for YouTube" which will also stabilize and tame YouTube crashes on v13. However... It's not just YouTube that used to NEVER crash any of the v13 builds but now I am getting crashes with all of the v13 builds. Dixel's v13, Humming Owl's v13, the Russian Repack v13, the Chinese original v13 - they all have major crash issues all of a sudden on XP. When those crashes started happening on "this" computer, I thought maybe a codec or something got corrupted. But I'm getting v13 crashes on XP on five different computers, all with different "levels" of Windows Updates, some with different versions of K-Lite Codec Pack, some without. I really wish I could track it down. I have honestly NEVER had YouTube crashes until just a few days ago. But... It's not just YouTube. YouTube is by far the easiest to "replicate" the crashes. But even this very MSFN forum will now crash on occasion! Axe profile completely, fresh XP install, no extensions installed, you name it, v13 has a tendency to crash all of a sudden. I've been unable to track down any realy "culprit".
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It's only on XP and YT has been a total nightmare last couple of days. It bugs me because I prefer to think my browser can take anything I throw at it. I'm currently rebuilding/repacking a v12 build 1247 version and it seems to be handling YT on XP much better than v13. Video available here -- https://www.dropbox.com/s/kmhha7iz8edzbyn/v12-1247.mp4
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Big NLite / NTLite Fan! @Dixel - thank you very much for letting me try your 360Chrome rebuild for YouTube testing. Sadly, your version does the same exact thing that I am seeing with all of my rebuilds which is the same thing that Humming Owl's v13 is doing. Open a second tab but try to open that tab and 360Chrome crashes. Video available here to witness -- https://www.dropbox.com/s/hkvboqbt1ctguhg/Dixel-YT-Test.mp4
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I'd be interested in trying your version. I'll PM you. "Non-supported" OS and XP are still two different birds.
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Ah, never knew that was there. Without a VPN, I selected a country I'm not in and very next video crashes. I wish I knew what in Hades is going on. I've never had issues with YouTube and now it's constant crashes in v13 on XP. I can jump through hoops and "stabilize" YouTube with a mix of addons, but that defeats the purpose, YouTube should be stable in Incognito Mode, I shouldn't have to jump through hoops. ZERO issues in v12 on XP so I'm actually in-process of repacking v12 and it will soon become my default-for-all. Again, crashes are ONLY in XP - with brand new profiles, on freshly installed XPs, with original Chinese, with Russian Repack, with my repack, with Humming Owl's repack -- mixing v13, YouTube, and XP is like mixing Coca Cola with Mentos or baking powder with vinegar or ammonia with bleach. I propose all future crash reports cite specifically what OS you are on. I have zero issues on my 7 and 10 partitions, it is ONLY in XP that v13 has become a YouTube Nuisance all of a sudden.
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Yeah, I can increase stability by blocking everything also. But I also think it's not the route for the "average user". You and I are not "average"
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on updated screencap. YouTube is still giving me issues on XP with v13 - original, Russian, modified, a dozen different builds, you-name-it, v13 doesn't like YouTube on XP all of a sudden. I actually RARELY visit YouTube, but it seems to be "thee" benchmark where users gauge stability.
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1) Did not check region settings. I'm never logged into YouTube, I just visit YouTube as a guest and cache is always cleared on browser-exit. 2) I noticed that also, plus the screen cap shows the main page, not an actual video-being-played page. A screencap with that many tabs and no favicons can be "misleading", not claiming it was intentional, just "misleading". 3) Sweet! I used to use ProxHTTPSProxy also! Right around the time that a program called "Proxomitron" started to lose its following.
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I remove and disable all of the "Thunder" stuff. It's basically a "download manager" and I figure if users want to use a "download manager", they will install their own extension instead of the browser coming "bundled" with one.
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I pretty much spent the entire day yesterday doing nothing but forcing browser crashes. I was getting similar results with US, Canadian, and French IP Addresses so I've ruled out it being YouTube sending different code to different countries (I did not go to the extent of comparing/contrasting html source codes). Crashes were always in XP while 7 and 10 were stable. Same results on FIVE different computers, two of them multi-boot OS's - all of which have never had any "above-average-use" crashes prior to yesterday (five YouTube tabs [any more than that then I suggest a shrink no matter what browser you use!]). The crashes do not appear to be hardware-related. The crashes were always in XP and x86 vs x64 did not make much of a difference. My current course-of-action is a repack of 360Chrome v12 build 1247. It's actually been a back-burner project to eventually do a repack of v11 or v12. My stability/functionality/performance tests have focused on YouTube, Dropbox, Google Voice, and MSFN. All four were crashing various versions of different browsers. I settled on v12 build 1247 based on GUI load speed recorded by PassMark AppTimer, BrowserAudit.com results, Basemark Web 3.0 benchmark results, Speedometer 1.0 and 2.0 benchmark results, and Kraken 1.1 benchmark results. Don't really have a timeframe on repack release. I had twenty YouTube tabs running on three different computers, all XP, and I wasn't able to crash any of the v12 builds. I did not try v9 or v11 because my needs requrie Google Voice and I could not get all functionality to work in v9 or v11. Another advantage to v12 over v13 is that v12 will download .csv files from Google Sheets while v13 will not (never dug into why v13 cannot download .csv files or if there is a workaround/fix).
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What type of phone do you have?
NotHereToPlayGames replied to Nokiamies's topic in General Discussion
I moved to this city in 2001. I got my first cell phone in 2001 in order to keep in touch with friends now 3 hrs away. 3hrs is a long commute so I eventually drifted apart from the friends in my previous city. In 2004, I called up the cell phone provider and told Customer Service that I wish to cancel my cell phone plan. She didn't want to lose a good-paying customer and tapped away on her keyboard, "What if we put you in a different plan? I have a plan about a third of what you are paying now." I requested she pull up her data and tell me how many MINUTES that I have been on the phone in the past YEAR. More tapping away on her keyboard. She comes back, "Wow! Sir, it says here you have only used FOUR MINUTES in the last YEAR." I replied, "Now do you understand why I wish to cancel?" "Yes, right away sir, we have you cancelled." -
What type of phone do you have?
NotHereToPlayGames replied to Nokiamies's topic in General Discussion
Here in the States, spammers/solicitors used to never be able to call a cell phone. But then the "consumer" got STUPID and wanted to carry their land line number over to a cell phone. So now the spammers/solicitors are allowed to call land line and cell phone - all because the "consumer" got STUPID. -
What type of phone do you have?
NotHereToPlayGames replied to Nokiamies's topic in General Discussion
I haven't owned a phone since 2004. No land line. No cell phone. A very stress-free lifestyle -
While you are logged in, delete past attachments from here -- https://msfn.org/board/attachments/
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My only recent modification is a Humming Owl carryover -- Replaced "https://caprogram.360.cn/#plan" entry by "chrome://settings/certificate" I don't see how that could cause crashes but I rolled it back just to rule it out. But I didn't make that modification in my build 1106 and other non-2206 builds and they were crashing also, so all I can really assume is US IP Addresses. My VPN VM uses a Canadian IP Address, I'll see what YouTube does from that tomorrow. In the meantime, and if you are interested, @Dixel - can you try YouTube via VPN from a US IP Address?
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The YouTube crashes are XP ONLY - x86 and x64. Does seem to be worse on x64 - but YouTube is crashing both. No issues with 7 or 10. Couldn't find my VPN VM, will revisit tomorrow. The users in the past that have reported issues with YouTube have all (or mostly) been on XP x86. Granted, most have also been SP2 versus SP3. As mentioned above though, I do think YouTube is "experimenting" with code today. It's been hit-or-miss for the better part of the day and YouTube has NEVER crashed my v13 build 2206 until today. Sure, I can "force" a crash every once in a while by being UNREALISTIC and loading up ten+ YouTube tabs - but come on, who does that OUTSIDE of trying to crash a web browser?
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Didn't work (used 32bit Chrome v73 UA) - YouTube simply crashes v13 from a US IP Address. I will track down my VPN VM and try from that.
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Today's experience with YouTube has me rethinking this. It has been off-and-on ALL DAY on YouTube. My modified versions (v13 builds 1006, 1032, 1054, 1106, 2206, 2216, 2220, and 2250) and Humming Owl release (v13 build 2250) - YouTube keeps crashing 360Chrome v13. I have to wonder if YouTube is "experimenting" with new code ??? But it has been hit-or-miss. Portions of the day would crash with only two YouTube tabs, portions of the day would crash with six or seven YouTube tabs, portions of the day would be stable and no crashes with 15 YouTube tabs (I didn't go any higher than 15). But with all of these hit-or-miss problems throughout the day on v13 (1006, 1032, 1054, 1106, 2206, 2216, 2220, and 2250), I could never once get v11 or v12 of 360Chrome to crash. I limited my testing today to v11 build 2031 and v12 build 1592. At one point today, when v13 was crashing at only two YouTube tabs, I was able to load TWENTY YouTube tabs in v11 and v12. All I can figure is that YouTube is "experimenting" with code. I'll load a few videos over the next few days and monitor stability. But I do like that v11 and v12 at least "survived" whatever in Hades was causing v13 to be so problematic today.
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That makes sense. I was a moderator at a forum for a web filtering proxy program called "Proxomitron". Its creator passed away a few years back and I recall there being some debate at the time as to the future of "Proxomitron". I actually still use "Proxomitron", but only to send Microsoft Excel data queries through.
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You have TOO MANY tabs open. I cannot see the "favicon" that would show that several of those tabs are YouTube. At any rate, NO LONGER RELEVANT. YouTube WAS sending us different code and YouTube is NOT sending that different code now. YouTube is "in bed with" the current administration, I have no doubt that YouTube was force-feeding US YouTuber's to watch Biden's newscast We were getting different code, all is back to normal now and I can open SEVERAL YouTube tabs once again. I've never actually experienced the "claimed" issues that several other users seem to always be having, today was the FIRST time I've ever had crashes on YouTube.
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Three YouTube tabs in THIS window. A second window with three more YouTube tabs. A third window with nine non-YouTube tabs. The crashes were ONLY happening during Biden's all-channel hostile-takeover.
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It HAD TO BE only on US IP addresses. Everything is FINE now. Biden was on ALL tv stations earlier talking about Afghanistan. I'm fairly convinced that YouTube was sending different code earlier in the day.
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Are two of those tabs YouTube tabs?
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I have an 1106 version also and it also crashes with two YouTube tabs. Can't "teach" it, it either crashes or it doesn't. YouTube is probably sending us different code.
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I can get to 7 YouTube tabs in v12 but I've never really checked in the past how many it takes to crash v12.