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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
@caliber , @Vistapocalypse : I can't reproduce here reported issue, either in St52 nor FxESR 52.9; FWIW, the Free mode of the WP site requires you consent (and allow in browser settings) third party cookies and tracking: Additionally, since I am located within the EU (and so is @caliber ), you have to also consent to GDPR: Ticking the "I agree" box and then clicking the "Continue to site" button, I see no nags while browsing the WP site in Free mode: This is on a dirty profile with uBlock0-legacy 1.16.4.16 and several filter lists enabled... -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... yields KM74-g22-20180718.win2000.7z -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
@roytam1 : In your custom UXP branch, the one you build the UXP browsers on, hence Serpent 52, you have included the following (upstream) commit: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commit/690fb973929d5560fc4546885b5f39330161be9e ... But we do still have this interface (i.e. the WebExtensions Addons Manager, WebEx AOM) in St52, so probably that should be reverted? FWIW, original discussion in official forums: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=23362 -
... Actually, I'm currently using a slightly older, less bloated, paid-for version of KIS, for which I had bought (at a bargain price) a legal 3-year/2 PCs licence; that - slightly older - version continues to receive definitions updates and, before you suggest so yourself, passes with flying colours all the tests at your favourite AMTSO site ; but that 3-year long licence expires this coming June 2020; so I may have to revise my AV options by that time... Chances are this almost 13-year old Vista laptop will be decommissioned by then - I am the (un)proud owner of a newly bought (over the January sales period) modern era 17'' laptop, coming, of course, with Win10 64-bit; it is my plan to transition to that over the next months as my main machine, but this depends on a lot of factors at my end, mostly getting to grips with Win10 itself (which, at this moment, looks so alien to me... ); that hardware, of course, doesn't support Vista in the slightest, but, for nostalgia reasons, I may install it in a VM there (and that's the reason I made sure the new machine has ample RAM, 12GB to be exact...). I hope your curiosity is satisfied now @Vistapocalypse, apologies to the rest for the off-topic nature of the post
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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I believe that is the "new layout" mentioned there (but, God forbid, I'm not a twitter user )... It appears you're on Win7 or higher (since you can run FxESR 68); in "about:config" disable native forked-UXP's decoders by setting "media.ffvpx.enabled;false" and make sure "media.wmf.enabled;true" ; restart NM28 (or St52; what is it exactly you're using?) and then see if the audio on Twitter is OK... If Twitter gets also broken in the official UXP browsers (you can also check this yourself, if on Win7), then I suspect upstream will have to deal with that, eventually; there's one report already on the official forums, https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=23597&p=181680 however the OP has not indicated yet whether offered remedy cures the issue for him... -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... Recently discussed, only four pages ago... Starting post is this one: Please read relevant posts that followed it; I assume you're on XP (the setting under your forum avatar just says "OS: none specified" ), it might be necessary to switch to APCDM in St52 for Twitter (along with an IE SSUAO); also, everyone using XP here should realise that the major "trendy" social sites (youtube/facebook/instagram/twitter etc.), laden with heavy scripts and rich embedded media content, are constantly evolving to cater to (mostly) mobile platforms and, for desktop, to what is the Win10 version du jour... Roytam1 did try successfully to mitigate the lack of WMF and OS patented decoders under XP, but those ffmpeg decoders inside his custom ffvpx library (in UXP browsers) can only cope as much; FFmpeg itself has long ago abandonned XP support, so, if I'm not mistaken, current decoders are based on an older, XP compatible, FFmpeg branch (3.x.x ?) ... OTOH, those social/media sites (especially twitter & instagram) use encoding profiles & new methods of stream delivery that are not guaranteed to remain compatible with forked-UXP's media decoders... -
Isn't it ironic/cheeky they still mention Vista SP1+ as a supported OS, though? ...
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Registry hack (or similar) to keep getting updates for Windows 7?
VistaLover replied to RikkaNoodles's topic in Windows 7
... ESU start dates for Windows Embedded Standard 7 and Windows Embedded POSReady 7 are Oct 13th, 2020 and Oct 12th, 2021 , respectively; only Windows 7 Pro for Embedded Systems entered ESU period on Jan 14th, 2020 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4497181/lifecycle-faq-extended-security-updates -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... Adding to what my friend @Vistapocalypse posted, MCP dropped Vista support in Pale Moon with the release of v28.0.0 on Aug 16th 2018, a mere 16 months after Vista's own EoS (end of Extended Support by vendor, which was Apr 11th 2017); so yes, XP diehards shouldn't be moaning over this... Would I have wanted official Vista support to have continued past Tycho (v27.x.x) (and that would've been at a minimal cost, considering how much similar Vista & 7 are, both NT6) ? Of course yes ... But when MCP started developing UXP (forked off FxESR 52, both XP/Vista compatible), Vista had already reached its EoS, so, in his own words, he didn't want to implement support for a "dead" OS in his "new" application platform... https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=134148#p134148 Addition: In a now hidden () GitHub comment of mine, my own view on the matter: Just for the sake of clarity, Moonchild's response(s): -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
That's all good, but the OP reported issues accessing Roy's server over plain HTTP: the o.rths.ml site is currently not working FWIW, I can access the referenced link both over plain HTTP and HTTPS (TLS 1.3 used in the latter case) in NM28: BTW, the extension used is SSleuth v0.5.4 https://repo.hyperbola.info:50000/other/iceweasel-uxp/addons/sslsleuth/ssleuth-0.5.4-fx.xpi -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
All is OK on my side, FWIW... fl=20f353 h=o.rths.ml ip=(redacted) ts=1579888977.859 visit_scheme=http uag=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/4.2 Firefox/52.0 PaleMoon/28.6.0a1 colo=AMS http=http/1.1 loc=GR tls=off sni=off warp=off -
One such occurrence of an application compiled in Qt 5.7.1 but still working under XP/Vista x86 is DB Browser for SQLite v3.11.2 : (As you said, the app doesn't seem to use the Qt5WebEngine.dll module... )
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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
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They should've been disabled by default, according to the Wiki: "Experimental filters" is now, of course, a moot point, as, if you did leave them at their default setting (disabled), they'll soon vanish altogether from available filters... FWIW, manual re-introduction is possible via URI: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/master/filters/experimental.txt
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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
@Mathwiz : Hope you're doing fine in the new year ; when you first posted this some days ago, I was genuinely puzzled, but since I was occupied with other matters, both in digital (!) and real life , I left it aside for future investigation; my contribution to the subject at hand was simply which basically links to the old Bugzilla bug #967977 Today I had some extra time and decided to search the official UXP GitHub repo/issue tracker, to find proof which substantiates the report that: (them in that context refers to TLS Session Tickets/TLS cache); I've searched specifically for code that sets the hidden pref security.ssl.disable_session_identifiers to true, but my search was, alas, fruitless... I then browsed @roytam1 's forked UXP repo, both branches (master+custom), for similar code signs, but to no avail, again ... So, by simply going with public source code, I found no clues that the default behaviour in either (official) PM28 and/or (forked) NM28 is to disable TLS session tickets, as you suggested... But you are not to blame yourself , I have myself in the past "slipped" in a similar fashion... ; the blame lies on the OP, for causing undue confusion over a "supposedly" new-found issue, most likely self-inflicted: ... was the post that started all this ; as part of my investigation, I have downloaded said NM28 build (BuildID=20200104010047), as well as the one after it (BuildID=20200110230556) and guess what one finds by visiting https://www.howsmyssl.com in a brand new/fresh (browser) profile: and So, nothing has changed in NM28 with regard to TLS Session Tickets, they are enabled by default (which yields the green "Good" button in that test page) ... Once more, it was simply @msfntor 's troll-ish behaviour in posting unchecked/unverified untruths, which ended up wasting people's time... -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... According to: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/01/09/browser-zero-day-update-your-firefox-right-now/ disabling IonMonkey JIT by setting: javascript.options.ion;false will get you covered , but with a (slight) performance penalty, of course... The linked article mentions that mitigation only in relation to the Tor Browser (and until the time it gets updated, which it did), but that same "about:config" pref is apparently present in FxESR 52.9.x, which, as we all know, won't be patched... -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
If my understanding is correct, it might be already in with the latest 2020-01-11 build: "above" refers to https://msfn.org/board/topic/180462-my-browser-builds-part-2/?do=findComment&comment=1176055 where it's stated: The "patch" you refer to is platform wide, so it should be present in all latest UXP applications (NM28, St52, MN, BN); Moebius (St55) had to be treated separately... -
I'm on v1.16.4.14b2 since yesterday My installation was on an extremely heavy New Moon 28 profile: tens of extensions, many userstyles installed (within Stylem), many userscripts installed (within GM-for-PM), that means it's not a "snappy" profile to begin with ; so I can't make any remarks regarding uB0 related performance issues... I guess the proper thing to do is to install ONLY the beta on a fresh NM28 profile and then submit it to various benchmarking tests; but I couldn't be bothered, to be frank For more info, I'd keep an eye on https://github.com/DandelionSprout/adfilt/issues/7 https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/pull/6808/ https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/pull/3765
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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Special message from upstream: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=23605 (and https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=181666#p181666 ) -
... Trouble's in the air for uB0-legacy : https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=181590#p181590 ... and following posts... Betas of v1.16.4.14 : https://github.com/JustOff/misc-pm-stuff/releases/ (... but the "on-the-fly" rule conversion to the old format, supported in uB0-legacy, does result in performance degradation... )
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... However, you can delay its installation for as long as you like : https://www.askvg.com/windows-10-tip-block-or-prevent-automatic-installation-of-microsoft-edge-browser-via-windows-update/ (... but this would not be a smart move security wise, as M$ will no longer release security patches for the "original" (EdgeHTML/Chakra) iteration... )
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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Whatever you do, please don't re-block ATI radeon drivers. I'm even getting good acceleration in an old W2k box ... Please understand Roytam1 doesn't block graphics drivers on his own, only upstream do... FWIW, https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon/commit/b7841e5 was pushed to mitigate crashes on Linux, as reported in https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=23512 But previous commit was reverted by Moonchild on Jan 10th, via https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon/commit/b4a6053 ... which @roytam1 might've missed by a narrow margin (was published on GitHub at 202001101821UTC) ; in any case, nothing to fear on Windows... -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thank you, - I've set now New Name, boolean, in Moebius 55. Some relevant Firefox documentation, for the curious... which links to the corresponding Bugzilla bug number: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=967977