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My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... As I added later, it's because of: with Goanna versions being different between Pale Moon (5.2.1, but recently changed to 6.0.0 in official UXP master) and the UXP forks (4.8.6) discussed in this thread... -
My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Damned they be! They plainly reject the UA sent by Serpent 52/55 (the Goanna and/or Basilisk slices) ... Edit: It's the "Goanna/*" UA slice they really object to ... The site loads fine via spoofing a "pure" Firefox UA, e.g. : "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0" -
My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
@roytam1 (hoping your fracture is healing nicely ): I can't seem to be able to open https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/ in latest Serpent 52.9.0: This is a fresh testing profile, at default settings... OTOH, 360EE, IE9 (!) and 2018-era FxESR 52.9.1 have no issues with it ... FWIW, none of the 3 certificates in the chain have expired : and SSL Labs give the "www.ldoceonline.com" hostname a superb A+ overall rating (only TLSv1.2 supported by that server) ... Edit: Latest Serpent 55.0.0 exhibits the exact same issue ... -
... Of course, that was probably a phony username, but Carlotta (I think) is a female's Christian name ... Later addition: @NotHereToPlayGames : I'm not going to argue on this, you being a native speaker, but... 1. I was taught English in my teen years by a posh Londoner (Mr Andrew Salters, where are you? ) ... 2. If "wordreference" is to be trusted, the singular number refers to a male:
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According to its Release Notes, the well-known H/W-monitoring tool Core Temp has dropped Vista SP2 support in its 64-bit edition: Thus, CoreTemp-1.17.1-x64 would be the last that natively supports VistaSP2_x64... The InnoSetup installer (the same for both Vista x86 and x64) is no longer offered from the author's site (only the ZIPPED "portable" version is), but it has been archived below: https://archive.org/details/core-temp-setup_20220226 Current version 1.18 will successfully install and run under Vista SP2 x86, but it's plagued by this bug, so I had to revert to previous v1.17.1 (on my Vista SP2 32-bit laptop) ...
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My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
The usual reasons : 1. Increase the amount of user-info (telemetry) they're harvesting via their "spyware" browser application, 2. undermine the competition and break older (aka "legacy") browser platforms at the same time... See upstream #2053 Google's implementation of the measure() function (measureOptions parameter) requires at minimum Fx103; with 102 being the current FxESR (and the one Win7/8.1 uses will, purportedly, be downshifted to once Mozilla drop support for these OSes), GT should be, as of Dec 6th, also broken in latest FxESR (but can't test this myself now ); hopefully, Mozilla will backport the necessary changes to the Fx102 codebase, too ... -
360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
VistaLover replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thanks for the clarification ; because the quote by @Humming Owl in your previous post was specifically referring to the WidevineCDM, not the underlying browser engine of DCB_v4.0.7.22 ... Χρόνια Πολλά και Καλή Χρονιά!- 2,340 replies
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360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
VistaLover replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I don't know about "such", but last thing I read was that Netflix specifically had a fallback DRM mechanism based on the (deprecated) NPAPI Silverlight plugin, on "legacy" browsers that still support that plugin... I can't test the current validity of that, as I don't have a Netflix subscription myself... PlayReady (aka MSPR) is a Microsoft-owned DRM technology, as such is supported in IE11 and Edge MS browsers; MSPR must also be "defined" inside the CENC manifests (MPD, ISM) the media servers (CDNs) are delivering to the browser... As per my comment above, the site does support MSPR (in addition to WV): drm: { widevine: { LA_URL: 'https://cwip-shaka-proxy.appspot.com/no_auth' }, playready: { LA_URL: 'https://playready.directtaps.net/pr/svc/rightsmanager.asmx?PlayRight=1&ContentKey=EAtsIJQPd5pFiRUrV9Layw==' } }- 2,340 replies
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360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
VistaLover replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Are you talking about the browsers themselves? If so, yes, I know they're both Vista SP2 compatible... And I believe both are supplied in 32-bit flavours ; my original query was for the latest WidevineCDM v4.10.4557.0 (32-bit) transplanted into either one; does it then work in the linked test page under a fresh browser profile? Extrapolating from my findings in Vista SP2 32-bit tells me it should not work in Vista SP2 64-bit without the Extended Kernel (aka "vanilla x64") ... @UCyborg, time permitting, could you be able to shed more light on this? Thanks ...- 2,340 replies
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360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
VistaLover replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Oops, mea culpa , you're correct ; DCBrowser v4.0.1.4 was the first based on Ch75, and next v4.0.2.4 was the first based on Ch75 to run under XP SP3; DCBrowser did not change its Chrome Core to v86 until v5.0.1.48, but that one required Win7SP1+ to launch ... I must've confused DCBrowser with another Chinese browser based on Ch55 and popular with the XP community ... My deepest apologies (previous post of mine shall be edited ) ...- 2,340 replies
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My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Relevant upstream support forum thread: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=29165 @Mathwiz ... -
360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
VistaLover replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
The last version of the Google WidevineCDM that was compatible with Vista SP2 (32-bit/64-bit) was v4.10.1196.0 (digitally signed on 20181009); all later versions contained one (or more) call(s) to APIs that are only found on Win7 SP1 and up... v4.10.1196.0 originally shipped with Chrome 70; that version, of course, wouldn't launch under Vista SP2, but the CDM could be transplanted into 360EEv11/v12/v13 and there it worked until it got deprecated/revoked by Widevine Licence Servers on 20190814 (FWIW, that was the same date on which WVCDM v1.4.9.1088 - that ships with Serpent 52.9.0 - was also revoked ) ... Currently, the only supported version of the CDM that is "whitelisted" by the Lic Servers is v4.10.2557.0 (digitally signed on 20220923); the immediately previous one, v4.10.2449.0, has been recently revoked ... Probing the 32-bit widevinecdm.dll v4.10.2557.0 with DW reveals two calls to GetThreadGroupAffinity TryAcquireSRWLockExclusive which are not available inside Vista SP2's kernel32.dll system file... @shelby : If you're using Vista's Extended Kernel (by win32) on Vista SP2 64-bit, you should clarify that, because a "generic" claim like the one I quoted may lead to misunderstandings... DCBrowser 4.0.7.22 (discussed in the posts above yours) is based on Chromium 75; WVCDM v4.10.2557.0 demands at least Chromium 68: { "manifest_version": 2, "update_url": "https://clients2.google.com/service/update2/crx", "name": "WidevineCdm", "description": "Widevine Content Decryption Module", "version": "4.10.2557.0", "minimum_chrome_version": "68.0.3430.0", "x-cdm-module-versions": "4", "x-cdm-interface-versions": "10", "x-cdm-host-versions": "10", "x-cdm-codecs": "vp8,vp09,avc1,av01", "x-cdm-persistent-license-support": true, "x-cdm-supported-encryption-schemes": [ "cenc", "cbcs" ], "icons": { "16": "imgs/icon-128x128.png", "128": "imgs/icon-128x128.png" }, "platforms": [ { "os": "win", "arch": "x64", "sub_package_path": "_platform_specific/win_x64/" }, { "os": "win", "arch": "x86", "sub_package_path": "_platform_specific/win_x86/" }, { "os": "win", "arch": "arm64", "sub_package_path": "_platform_specific/win_arm64/" } ] } (you can grab WVCDM v4.10.2557.0 from within a Google Chrome 107+ installation) Testing site: https://bitmovin.com/demos/drm ... Sadly, the DARK side is that Google's DRM is spreading like metastatic aggressive cancer cells, it's EVERYWHERE now (when before it used to be only in paid-for media services); have a look inside youtube-dl/yt-dlp issue trackers and you'll see what I mean ... DRM is really EVIL (more so for users of "legacy" browsers on "legacy" systems); Google have recently abandoned Win7/8/8.1 in their browser, a not-so-distant WidevineCDM updated release will only run under Win10+ ...- 2,340 replies
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My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Most sadly, that test can't be run under a UXP-based browser , because the website requires Javascript features not supported in UXP: This is a well known villain when it comes to UXP (i.e. dynamic module import): https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Operators/import First implemented in Firefox Quantum 67, UXP has a longstanding "open" issue about it: https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/issues/1691 TL;DR: No light at the end of the tunnel any time soon, if ever... People, "we" should accept UXP is on its deathbed, under life support ... -
Thanks for your kind reply ; obviously, I wasn't aware ... Today, with more free time on my hands, I searched this further and it seems it was first removed in Chrome 65, then reinstated in Chrome 66, to be permanently removed, as you wrote, in Chrome 76 ; what a mess ; of course, all was done to cater to "user security", the usual "excuse" when useful features are being removed:
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... Have any of you tried the " --disable-infobars" cmdline switch to hide the "unsupported OS" header/banner? It shouldn't require a PC restart, just a browser restart...
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My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... Turns out that UXP-incompatible script (requiring customElements) is being served from this company: https://www.reevoo.com/ i.e. when invoked, the script displays (in a popup) "after-sale" opinions/evaluations/comments (by "verified" customers) about an item bought from MM ; I had to open 360EEv13 to actually discover the function of that script ... -
My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
In Greece, the MM e-shop is found at: https://www.mediamarkt.gr/ Beyond the obvious TLD change (.de => ,gr), the site structure is different to the mother, German, one... Even with palefill-1.25 installed, visiting the site with Serpent 52 will produce a: ReferenceError: customElements is not defined error inside WebConsole; this is caused by script: https://widgets.reevoo.com/assets/mark2.0/reevoo_loader-17aa6c931995666b123f2033e93adcde.js Be that as it may, the site can be browsed OK overall, so that "reevo_loader" JS code must be responsible for "secondary" in-page functions... I don't have an account with them, but the registration/log-in pages do generate the same ReferenceError because of that same "reevo_loader" script... Should be fairly easy to add CE support for www.mediamarkt.gr inside palefill, but I'm not personally interested enough ... TL;DR: MM.de affiliate on-line shops can (and do) present issues of a slightly different nature when it comes to UXP-compatibility... Kindest greetings -
My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... Due to time constraints (RL), I mostly get notified about additions to this thead via e-mail notifications (in my e-mail client, NOT browser), i.e. I don't open my browser to surf this thread as often as I used to ... I then click on the "Go to this Post" button only for those notifications I deem "urgent"; the rest, I'll visit when I have more spare time... MSFN software ONLY sends an e-mail notification the first time a reply is submitted to the thread, not on subsequent edits of the same post ; while I do agree multiple consecutive posts by the same person (resembling a "chat" room ) might appear somewhat "annoying" to some members, at least there are use cases, like mine, where they could actually serve a purpose ... Edit: OTOH, @NotHereToPlayGames could have waited until he had concluded ALL of his tests (and generated all the relevant screenshots) and then post all his findings in one single, initial, post ; no "rush" to a posting "spree" was warranted, IMHO ... -
My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... Double-clicking rightwards on the player surface will advance the video 10s forward; double-clicking leftwards will rewind the video 10s - yep, not practical ... -
My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
For many months now, for youtube I've used this SSUAO in St52: general.useragent.override.youtube.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 5.0.2; SAMSUNG SM-A500FU Build/LRX22G) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Gecko/20111216 Firefox/9.0 Fennec/9.0 It loads the mobile version of youtube pages and it's much more lenient on resources ; takes a bit of getting used to, but it's overall OK... Main caveat being you can't move the player marker to the right (to skip parts of the video), at least I haven't found a way to myself... Basically affects long videos, only ... -
My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Both links 404 for me currently ; CDN issue? FTR, nowhere to be found inside: https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/?sort=date&order=desc -
My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... Then the browser will NEVER fetch favicons for any tab, even during a normal browser session (i.e., not only when a previous session is being restored); do you want that (I don't, because I do want favicons in my tabs - and in my URLbar, thanks to CTR in St52) ? In "about:config", is below boolean pref set to true ? browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand -
I tried loading those two URIs in Serpent 52.9.0 (32-bit); no success (blank tab) : web.telegram.org/k => ReferenceError: customElements is not defined Also, beware of that URI, as it serves a "CryptoWorker" script... web.telegram.org/z => SyntaxError: invalid identity escape in regular expression
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My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thanks a bunch! I followed your logic and added one more rule to slim the header even when "logged-in": @-moz-document domain("gitlab.com") { .logged-out-marketing-header { --header-height: 40px; } .navbar-gitlab { --header-height: 40px; } } logged-out; 72px -> 40px : logged-in; 48px -> 40px : However , using "Inspector" (of DevTools) I found out that once the value of "--header-height" inside the userstyle becomes < 40px (as in your original code), that value is no longer honoured and the header's height can't be made less than 40px : Unless there's a fix for that, too, I'm already heavily indebted ! Kindest greetings -
My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Hi - apologies for the tardy response ; are you still unable to access ftp://ftp.dyu.edu.tw/pub/ in your browser/FTP client? You should forget ftp://ftp.cc.ntut.edu.tw/pub/ because that one times-out for everybody, but the first one should work ! In any case, the host doesn't provide any immediate info about the actual size of directory "pub": However, just to humour you, last night I fired up FileZilla (v3.40.0-rc2, last version to launch under Vista SP2 32-bit) and I let it overnight to sync with "ftp.dyu.edu.tw" (took some hours); here's a screengrab of the end result (GUI in Greek): As I hope you can see for yourself, remote directory "pub" contains a total of 30,445 distinct files, which amount to ca. 307.9GiB of disk space ; how can all of this be mirrored elsewhere just for you? ...