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My Browser Builds (Part 6)
AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
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And again a single sentence statement. Which crucial features do you miss in the free edition of IOBit Malware Fighter? And why don’t you get a 6-month licence for the Pro version? You can find them everywhere, and they’re even available at regular intervals. IOBit runs lots of promotions. I managed to get hold of some yesterday. This gives you the opportunity to test the programme thoroughly, exploring all its features, and then report on it in detail here. Here is a feature comparison: https://www.iobit.com/en/malware-fighter-pro.php Or take this one: Use this to clarify your point!
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And what exacty does that mean? The problem with one-sentence statements that contain no information is always the same. They’re of no use to anyone. And the reader is then left to guess, interpret or make assumptions, which only lead to rumours and wild theories. That is completely counterproductive. So please provide a bit more information! By the way, have you already reported your problems/issues/errors with Panda Dome on Windows XP to Panda’s support team?
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What I now expect from an anti-malware programme is that it simply warns me of any threats. No automatic removal, as I’ll take care of that myself should one ever arise. I have my own specialist tools for that. And most alerts are false positives anyways. It’s very important that it uses very little RAM and CPU. That’s why I think VirIT eXplorer Lite is great for my system. And I prefer real offline definition updates. Cutting down unnecessary features is therefore no problem for me.
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@modnar Or do you use an extended kernel or an additional layer in your Windows XP installation where you have installed IOBit Malware Fighter 12.5?
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I also mentioned that very often, people who use Windows XP also use the latest versions of Windows, such as 10, 11 and so on. If you’re completely disappointed by one operating system in terms of Panda Dome, it doesn’t reflect well on the others. Here is aditionally a screenshot with nearly all Panda hotline numbers at no costs: All Windows XP users here on MSFN and all guests reading this thread! Call them and report your issues with Panda Dome under Windows XP!
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FYI, today I contacted Panda Security by telephone via AnyTech365 and informed them of the problems with Panda Dome's PSANHost process on Windows XP, which have been ongoing since 2 July. There are indeed free of charge helpline numbers for all sorts of countries, and as many users as possible should get in touch. Here is the page with the telephone numbers: https://www.pandasecurity.com/en/homeusers/free-antivirus/support/ So please leave a message there. Call them! The more people who get in touch, the better.
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Check all available log or dump files! Maybe, there you get a hint.
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It was a very old version long time ago. I don't remember what version number it exactly was. But what about 12.2.2 advertised by COMODO? 😜
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Can you please provide this sourceforge link? I thought according to their website that 12.x versions, where x>0, were no longer compatible with Windows XP.
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You’re welcome! It’s rare for me to be this blunt. But what I went through last night was hell. My entire partition was at risk. The BSOD had wiped out various files. Fortunately, most of them were related to Panda. It was a miracle that I was even able to boot the partition at all. And the fact that Panda could be uninstalled despite the damage was another one. Incidentally, the whole drama started straight after the nightly automatic update that Panda had carried out yet again. I’m a bit reluctant to make recommendations these days, but I can tell you what I did a few days ago, in a moment of foresight. It’s really just a coincidence, but take a look at number 7 on the list you posted. That’s what I recently installed: VirIT eXplorer Lite. Here’s my post: https://msfn.org/board/topic/184730-antimalware-firewall-and-other-security-programs-for-windows-xp-working-in-2023-and-hopefully-beyond/page/101/#findComment-1288687 This antimalware programme is very nice. It is fully compatible with Windows XP, even in the latest version!!! The Lite version is free of charge. If you want to have more protection, you have to buy a license for the Pro version. The programme interface isn’t modern; it’s got a bit of a retro feel to it. That’s what programmes looked like in the 1990s: extremely colourful, with lots of bright colours and plenty of colourful buttons. Personally, I think it’s brilliant. It reminds me of those days. VirIT eXplorer Lite requires very little RAM and CPU power. The virus definitions are downloaded locally to the computer and are therefore available offline. That’s the only reason why the programme folder takes up just over 500 MB. And support is available and active. The intrusion detection shield, called VirIT Lite Monitor, had flagged processhacker.exe as malicious and issued a warning every time the computer started up. I then uploaded the file to VirIT or, to be more precise, to C.R.A.M., along with a message. A day later, the warning had disappeared, as they’d complied with my request to whitelist it. I’m completely satisfied with VirIT eXplorer Lite at the moment. Another reassuring point is that this is a programme developed in Europe – specifically in Italy. I will soon be writing a detailed article about VirIT eXplorer Lite/Pro. Old screenshot of my VirIT Lite Monitor with false positive: New screenshot with Process Hacker 2 whitelisted by C.R.A.M.: Cheers, AstroSkipper
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Well, folks, things are about to get tough. After restarting my Windows XP partition with Panda Dome 21.01.00, the PSANHost.exe process crashed again immediately - and this time it was a major crash. The main process, PSUAMain.exe, then froze completely. Nothing was working anymore. Here's some log and dump data: And then things got even worse. A BSOD, caused by the Panda Network Filter Driver psinknc.sys. This was the first BSOD for years. Here is the message and part of the dump file analysis: After that, I tried to boot into safe mode, but I couldn't get in. Somehow, after three partitions were scanned by scandisk, I managed to boot into the partition normally again, and I immediately uninstalled Panda Dome completely, including an additional deep clean. Forget about Panda Dome entirely, whether it's version 21.01.00 or 22.03.05! Since the 2. of July, Panda has destroyed compatibility with Windows XP and compromised it by faulty, incompatible updates. Currently, the following applies: Stay away from Panda on Windows XP! Nothing works anymore without an official fix or patch. That’s it for Panda as far as I’m concerned. I’m absolutely livid. P.S.: The minidump content is incomplete due to the totally faulty forum editor. One can’t post sensibly here anymore.
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Somehow, I have a sixth sense. The PSANHost.exe process just crashed after running without errors for three days. Here is the error message and the contents of the PSANHost.exe.mdmp dump file extracted with WinDbg: As I said, you shouldn't get your hopes up too soon. This time, it also has to do with the DLL file PSANModProcMon.dll. Maybe try turning off Process Monitor . I'm glad there's no Panda Dome on my primary Windows XP partition at the moment.
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Panda Dome 22.03.05 has been significantly more unstable on my primary Windows XP partition – which has all the POSReady 2009 updates installed – since 2 July than Panda Dome 21.01.00 on my secondary Windows XP partition, which does not have the POSReady 2009 updates installed. As the crashes were all related to the important system file ntdll.dll, I am now wondering whether the version of ntdll.dll also plays a role. This system file was installed with the POSReady update KB4493563 in March 2019, of course only on my primary Windows XP partition. Today, during a test of Glarysoft Malware Hunter, this programme also caused an error related to the ntdll.dll file. Coincidence?
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It’s best not to celebrate just yet; wait until the PSANHost.exe process has been running stably again over the next few days or weeks. It may be stubbornly refusing to crash, but as we’ve learnt the hard way, this monster is capable of behaving quite differently. Please report here if it crashes again!
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@Tangy Perhaps you can try Panda Dome 21.01.00. I am under the impression that this version is working better on Windows XP. It's definitely worth a try. @Dave-H That's what I replied to @Tangy.
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I assume that these updates are for offline protection. So blocking them may lead to fail detecting malicoius threads when disconnected to the internet. But as long as you are connected to the internet, Panda Dome should actually use the cloud engine for scanning files. That's the right attitude.
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That’s, of course, the ultimate way to block incompatible updates. But that wasn’t what I suggested. Not keen on Panda Dome 21.01.00? It’s running without any problems for me at the moment.
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Long time ago, I used COMODO Antivirus for a short time. It didn't convince me even back then and I uninstalled it. But COMODO Internet Security Premium 12.0.0.6818 was, in fact, the last version that was claimed in some forums to run flawlessly on Windows XP. So if this version doesn't work properly anymore, you can forget about COMODO as antivirus protection. P.S.: I found this one here advertising the use under Windows XP: https://antivirus.comodo.com/security/free-antivirus-xp.php
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You have to download the last XP-compatible version 11.4.0. Here is the original website with this version: https://web.archive.org/web/20240830175125/https://www.iobit.com/de/malware-fighter.php Download link: https://www.filepuma.com/de/download/iobit_malware_fighter_free_11.4.0.1360-40845/download/ Please test this version to find out how it works and whether it still receives definition updates or not!
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And that's one more reason to avoid Avast, at least on Windows XP. I’ve had so much trouble with Avast in the past that I’ll probably never use it again, even on other operating systems. Even though I’m not a fan of Avast, it’s quite possible that the lack of an internet connection is the reason why your attempt failed. Try again with an active internet connection!
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If I wanted to, I could switch to other fonts that look much nicer and more professional in a matter of seconds. It’s really simple to do this in the Mypal 78 settings or using a CSS stylesheet, which I can load on the fly at any time via my forked UserCSSLoader script. But as long as I can read everything clearly, I couldn’t care less about the font used.
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My screenshot is a PNG file. The text can be well read, and therefore the sceenshot is ok. It’s not about winning a rendering prize. And as for Mypal 78 on Windows 10, it makes absolutely no sense to use that browser there. There are plenty of up-to-date browsers available for Windows 10. Mypal 78 was designed for older operating systems such as Windows XP. On those systems, more modern browsers are urgently needed – particularly on low-spec computers where, for example, Supermium isn’t an option.
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In that case, your computer must have a problem. On my Windows XP computer and my Android tablet, everything looks fine apart from the screenshot that @genieautravail posted.
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@Dave-H I'm guessing you still have Panda Dome 22.03.05 installed and are dealing with that issue. However, since it seems to be running particularly poorly on your system, you might want to consider uninstalling it completely, performing a thorough cleanup, and then installing Panda Dome 21.01.00 with the option Offline Installation enabled. For me, this version vehemently refuses to let PSANHost crash. The cache folder is now also being filled correctly every day. No leftovers from previous days. Here is a screenshot showing the contents of the cache folder: Of course, I can't guarantee that it will work perfectly for you, but it's definitely worth a try. You really don't have anything to lose.