Tommy

I know this isn't much to do with UURollup itself, but I must say that Thunderbird is actually a nice open source email client. I have Linux Mint installed as a dualboot with Windows 98 and I was so surprised the ease of setup Thunderbird was with my email account as opposed to Microsoft Outlook. Thunderbird did all the hard work and all I had to give was my email account details and it basically did the rest As for the antivirus situation, I've actually been running without antivirus. I should probably get it back on here but it seems I started having a few issues with 8 on my Windows 2000 machine. As far as I know, AVG 9 is still updated as well however, there's a problem with it which I haven't completely tested yet. When you do updates back from May of last year on Win2000 UURollup, it breaks the program. You cannot scan or do anything and it spits out weird, random critical stop errors. I however have not tested it on a Windows 2000 SP4 UR1 gold machine or Windows XP-7 to see if the same happens with it or if it's UURollup/Kernel Extension that breaks it. I've reported the problem to Grisoft or whoever has AVG now but I haven't heard anything back from them. In my opinion, anything past AVG 9 is crap anyway. 9 was still lightweight enough and easy to use. Now they're more worried about making it look like crappy metro instead of functionality. I did use Avast 8 after this problem but I haven't since I reinstalled Win2000 back in November. It would probably be a good idea to install something and do a little testing since I always have preferred AVG. AVG6 rocked! Too bad they didn't go back to a small, lightweight program like that. I can see definitions taking a lot of space but is it really necessary for the program itself to be so bloated and huge?

Another reason I think you don't want to install new antivirus software by brute force such as AVG is because of the drivers used. It actually uses drivers, but I'm not sure how they are utilized. It's funny because I'm not sure about the newest AVG but I believe AVG 2011 and AVG 2012 both said you needed at least Windows 2000 SP4 UUv1 installed...yet meeting those requirements later causes the installer to say that the OS is not supported. If you really know what you're doing, it is possible to brute for AVG 2012 on Windows 2000 but it's practically non-functional plus it's nearly impossible to get rid of it once it is installed.

I can't see how this is anything that is within Tomasz86's control, but rather some setting of Norton's, either a setting you can change in the router, or something in Norton's downloaded database that you need to report to them as a false positive. Cheers and Regards There seems to be very little control on what you can change with it but it blocks certain sites by category (such as alcohol, tobacco, gambling, etc). I since have turned it off completely and don't have a problem however if anyone updates their routers and has this problem, they'll know how to get around this problem. @submix8c: I think that's what it is, ConnectSafe. My router does happen to be an N300 but I never had this problem before the firmware update. At least if other folks have the same issue they know how to access Tomasz's website.

I'll be more than happy to test your product, Tomasz. I for one appreciate all the hard work you put into these update packs just so us diehard Windows 2000 fans can continue to use it. Only thing I've ever had a problem with is access network shares from other computers. When I go ahead and access system default shares such as c$ for the C drive or sometimes even shares I create myself, I go to copy files from the Windows 2000 machine over to another machine on my network and more chances than not, it will crash the Windows 2000 machine with a bluescreen. I'll look deeper into what the actual screen says but it happens quite often if I try doing this. It doesn't seem to happen if I copy files from a non Windows 2000 machine to the Windows 2000 machine. Also, I don't know if it's still an issue or not but your site started getting blocked by my router's Norton parental control crap or whatever it is. I had to completely turn it off otherwise I'd get a page saying your site was blocked but it never gave an actual reasoning for it. Whether that part is within your control or not, I don't know but I disabled Norton for now as I don't have kids to worry about. But I thought I'd let you know that it does have issues. It's a newer Belkin router that I'm using and I don't think it was original equipped with Norton until I did a firmware update.

Can you tell I hate XP? XP was never my 'favorite' OS either. I still prefer Windows 98 and Windows 2000 which I still use on a daily basis. I've honestly never touched Windows 8 outside the public beta release but when I used it, I didn't like it. I do not like Metro and I do not own a mobile device or tablet for that very reason. I want to use the classic interface because that's what I'm used to and I can get my work done with it. But Windows XP is at best a light OS on the newest computers, at least 2006+ which is equivalent to Windows 98 on a computer from 2003+. I was never a fan of activation either. I understand the software pirates out there steal software daily but there will always be a way around it. So what's the point of adding more and more activation features to make it much more of a pain for the end user? I frequently install Windows (at least I used to) on my computer and it was a pain to go through activation because back when I did use it, I didn't even have an internet connection so I actually had to call Microsoft every time I did this. I got to the point I didn't activate it at all until my time was almost up. Windows 98 in my opinion with KernelEx is still a fantastic OS and the fact very little new stuff runs on it by default, I consider it more of a secure OS than say Windows 7 which more people are using so it's gaining a lot more attention. Who's honestly gonna make a virus to wipe out 98 machines in 2014? I'm not saying it's impossible but it's unlikely it will happen unless it's so basic that it runs on Windows 98. As for Windows Me, I'm not a big hater on it but I usually avoid it. It's a cool product if it wasn't riddled with bugs but maybe you found a way to patch a lot of them up since you probably update your machine from the basic out of box version. I give you credit though because you're using what you love and that's how it should be! I use Windows 2000 because that's what I want to use. It still runs many new things with the kernel extension installed and so I'm using it until I can't any longer. I still have plenty of older computers it will run on too. But honestly, I feel Windows XP is buggier than Windows 2000. I've had more crashes with XP and many times I had to literally force 2000 to crash just to have it happen.

Tomasz has his own HF_SLIP hosted on his Google Drive (You just have to look for it). I've used it and I've never had an issue with it, so I'd poke around Tomasz's Google Drive a bit and see what you can find. I wish I could help you with your actual problem because I had it a few times in the past myself but it's been so long, I can't remember exactly what caused it but usually it was just before the login screen that it would happen. Here, I'll help you out. This is Tomasz's HF_SLIP compilation: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bw_nt4aAJIoPNXh5MkFhRGZMREE&tid=0Bw_nt4aAJIoPaWJsUXQ4NGdWdjQ#list This is different than BlackWingCat's because I never got his to work either to be truthful, but I've used Tomasz's for almost two years and never had a problem. So give it a try! I think it has UURollup v10 already installed but you can go ahead and upgrade to 11 after installation.

I remember this but I'm not sure what triggered it. Did you make sure the system was up to date with Update Rollup 2 and Service Pack 4? You might want to try his HF_SLIP compilation and make a new Windows 2000 installation CD with it.

You mean "like Windows 2000", I believe . jaclaz Haha, that too jaclaz! Hence why I still prefer Windows 2000 myself because of the awesome members of this community helping keep it up to date and it just runs awesome. Of course after unofficial updates and newer programs now being able to run, it starts taking a bit of hard drive space but it's still just as awesome as ever.

I'm willing to test USP 5.2 for you if you decide to release it to beta testers if you choose to go that route before actually releasing it to the public.

I fail to see why Microsoft can't release a new OS that is somewhat like Windows XP, light on resources and hard drive space. Just because modern hard drives are at least 250GBs+ in new computers doesn't mean you have to fill it all up on an OS that does nearly the same things like Windows 98 or Windows XP did, just better. I have many complaints from clients using Windows 7 that it slows down even on some of the newest computers. Why can't Microsoft release a barebones OS for people who want to continue using their older computers and have a fancier one for people who like that kind of stuff? Windows Vista/7 is a joke on anything older than the newest Pentium 4 computers. That and the fact it's hard to upgrade to nearly a whole new codebase when their infrastructure is so massive. As many people say, if it's not broken, don't mess with it. The reason people continue to use Windows XP is because it works, it's not very hardware intensive, and certain applications and devices simply don't work on Windows Vista+. It might not be just a matter of upgrading the OS. If the computer is old enough, it would mean replacing the entire computer, maybe your printer, sometimes even software applications, and so on. In this hard pressed economy, people need the economical choices as well. I just don't see why so many things just stop working with newer versions of Windows. Microsoft chooses to remove certain things out of their newer versions of Windows so you run into compatibility issues. Windows 98 to Windows XP is a hard thing to compare though since it's a completely different system base, but Windows XP and Windows 7 are both Windows NT products and so why shouldn't something that works on Windows XP work with Windows 7 unless they purposely remove whatever it is from their product to make your product incompatible. Just like I think their OSs become more hardware intensive on purpose so people have to either upgrade their machines or replace them all together. I know a lot of people will probably disagree with me on some of my points of view but as I said before, why not release two completely different versions of Windows to make both sides happy? That way Microsoft can migrate people off of Windows XP a lot more easier while still making money and keeping their clients happy at the same time. What is really in Windows Vista+ that requires so much hardware requirements except for fancy themes and whatnot? Even turning Aero off and going completely with Windows Classic as a theme, it's still slow even on some of the newer machines. I just think a new, lower end OS for the economically strained folks would be an excellent and cost effective solution. How many normal users really use all the stuff included in newer versions of Windows anyway? Most people just want to get on and get what they need done and be done with it. Anyway, that's my entire take on this. I'm not even that big on Windows XP but I can totally see why people are clinging onto it. The jump from Windows XP to even Vista is a big one in hardware requirements and when people are still using computers for the early 2000s, I can see why they don't want to upgrade, considering how word probably spreads about how slow the new OSs are on older computers.

May I ask why you're using such an old UURollup? Is it for the compatibility? A lot of the latest v11 daily UURollups are quite stable and don't seem to cause problems. Using the latest v11 rollups have a lot more kernel extensions built into them which in hand lets you install a lot more of the latest software. Of course with a machine as old as yours might not run much outside of the stuff designed around that era. If you ever manage to get a system from the 2007 era, they run Windows 2000 very nice and with UURollup v11 installed, it's actually a beast and beats Windows 7 out of the park. Just a little food for thought there.

You're welcome! And nope, you won't lose your sound but if you happen to lose it via installing a new sound driver, this trick will not work anymore with the later daily versions of UURollup because the way the update installs has been changed. (See post #651 by tomasz86) We're hoping to find a real solution to this problem and what actually causes you to lose sound after installing a sound driver with UURollup installed.

You would just install the UURollup v11 (weekly 20130323) version. If possible, make sure you have everything sound related installed properly now so you only have to do it once. Don't even uninstall anything, just go ahead and reinitialize the UURollup v11 (weekly 20130323) installer and it will go ahead and reinstall the pack, after you restart, your sound should work again. Since you're using an older version of UURollup, I know for a fact that your sound will be restored if this is the problem. Anything daily after July's version I believe will not work with it anymore.

I never install Windows 2000 without Service Pack 4 being slipstreamed into it. You'd be much better off making sure that it is slipstreamed onto your Windows 2000 disk for any machine you'd install it on. It's nearly brings it up to Windows XP Gold or SP1 standards I believe. It might not hurt to also slipstream Tomasz86's latest weekly update of UURollup if you don't mind using unofficial updates, there are many updates available in it that could help ensure a more smooth installation on newer hardware.

I'm still baffled why it makes a difference though. What happens when you install a sound driver that it would automatically takes away sound functionality until you *reinstall UURollup*? Didn't blackwingcat add sound functionality from Windows XP? I'm wondering if when your sound device registers driver files if somehow it's causing some sort of incompatibility with the XP drivers. There's no 'obvious' audio service in 2000 like there is in XP though. I'll have to look deeper into the issue but I'm wondering if a simple script could fix the problem as it might just be as simple as regserv the XP sound driver DLLs after a device driver installation. That's just a hunch at this point though.

I don't know why this happens, especially due to it being a graphics driver, but I know the same happens to me for sound drivers and the old fix used to be just reinstalling UURollup after installing your sound driver and it would work. I haven't gotten around to testing it but a theory I have is you might need to reregister a sound dll file using regserv. I don't know if that would work as I haven't tried it but it's just an educated guess. Tomasz, have you simplified the UURollup installation to ignore any files that contain the same file version as in the update. It seems that the installation is a lot shorter and it skips anything that doesn't need to be updated. I think that's why my fix stopped working around the September release I believe it was.

Neither Windows 2000 nor SP4 come with Internet Explorer 6. You either installed it after installation or used a custom installation CD that included it. Phil I know it came with either version 5 or 5.5, I can't remember offhand which. It was a custom installation CD, I created it myself using tomasz86's compilation from November 2012. I know it's old but when I made a new CD using this March 2013 I believe it was, I had a lot of problems with it so I went back to using the older version and just installed his unofficial update rollup packs manually.

wininet.dll/mshtml.dll is version 6.0.2800.1687 shdocvw.dll is version 6.0.2800.2024 Apparently I don't have it but if it wasn't in the HF_SLIP compilation, then I don't have it for sure.

I have Internet Explorer 6 installed because it's automatically installed when I install Windows 2000.

Event Type: Information Event Source: Winlogon Event Category: None Event ID: 1002 Date: 11/30/2013 Time: 1:32:35 AM User: N/A Computer: HP_PAVILION Description: The shell stopped unexpectedly and Explorer.exe was restarted. That's basically what it shows me which I have a bunch more identical to it in the event viewer. If I can get enough time, I'll try to compile an ISO and upload it. If it's of any help, it seems like if I'm doing something with pictures or video that this happens. It's not a for sure deal but it seems doing anything in that line of work provokes this a lot more.

I'm profiling right now but I haven't crashed explorer yet, the event log only states that "The shell stopped unexpectedly and Explorer.exe was restarted." So I'm guessing something with the shell is causing this but I don't know what exactly. I will continue to profile and post anything that might be of use.

Windows 2000 has for an extremely long time remained my favorite operating system. However, I've lately been getting very irritated by it. Putting aside the fact that I cannot get Corel VideoStudio X5 to work on it which I use on a daily basis, I'm experiencing a ton of explorer.exe crashes and it's getting very frustrating. Sometimes it only takes minimizing a window or switching to another program to make it critical stop, close, and reopen. I used to deal with a very sluggish explorer on occasion which doesn't seem to happen very much anymore but now explorer coming to its knees at least 10 or more times a day is making me think about upgrading to at least Windows XP. It's something I really don't want to have to do because I much prefer Windows 2000 to the bloatware that has become Windows these days and I love that it doesn't require activation of any sorts. But this is a problem that I can't take much more of. I should have logs in the event viewer if anyone is interested in seeing them if they wish to assist me. But to top it off I'm using the latest UURollup v11 from tomasz86 which is the November daily version (but it's been doing this longer than just this release) and all other major updates that I know about. Other than that, nothing has really changed about the system I use software or hardware related. I noticed now that once in a while I seem to get a bit of a flicker on both monitors when I watch a YouTube video or use a Java based application. So yeah, that's where I'm at right now.

I like Vista over Windows 7 myself except for a few things. One of the things I hate is the fact I could only afford Home Premium at the time since I got it when it was almost brand new and the fact I had Windows XP Professional, you couldn't upgrade nor could I install it as a new OS because it was the upgrade version. So you'd have to install a trial version of Vista and then upgrade it with your key so it was like doing two installs which was a real pain. I much prefer Windows Media Player 11 over 12 which I hate so much particularly when it comes to watching video. I hate that it seems like it opens a new window just to watch video. You can't even adjust enhancements either unless it's on the video screen which doesn't make any sense at all. I also like how Windows Vista is more colorful than Windows 7. Sure, it can be changed with some tweaking but why should I have to do that? I loved the green panel and green toolbar in Vista compared to the blah nearly white bar and the side bar in Windows 7 is also blahish to me. I think if I remember correctly it's a light blue. But it's so blah that to me it's not even pretty to look at. I hate that they got rid of the classic start menu as there was no reason for that at all. I always use the classic start menu and even though XP's new start menu was okay, I hate how you actually have to scroll through programs on Vista and 7's new start menu. I want my options all laid out in front of me. The one thing I don't like is how MS removed DirectSound from Vista. Without the hardware acceleration, video playback and even a few other programs I use feel choppy to me. I like using the Project 64 emulator and in Vista even if you sync audio to frame rate, the sound still pops. They fixed it in Windows 7 somehow but it's still not a Vista deal breaker. I do like the classic control panel in Vista as well, even though you can sort of change the one in Windows 7, I still don't like it. I spend more time looking at it deciding where I want to go where in Windows 2000, XP, and Vista set to classic, I know where I'm going and things aren't really labeled stupid either. What was wrong with Add/Remove Programs? That was fine for years, now it's labeled...I don't even remember what...Programs and Features or something like that. That's BS! Vista might have it like that too, I can't remember. But if they could iron out the rest of the Vista bugs, I'd definitely use it over 7 any day!

UURollup contains all of blackwingcat's updates and both creators continue to update these often. It is great to have them both in this community! Office 2007 does work! With UURollup installed, just set setup.exe to Windows XP mode and it will install and work. To fix the black background on Firefox icon, I use Tihiy's Revolutions Pack 2 minus the new toolbar update, it makes everything else look better too!

Hmm, I can't really help you there since I use Microsoft Virtual PC for my virtual needs. So this pops up even before the VM OS even begins to boot? Does it happens via BIOS emulation or as you open up the VMware software itself before even doing anything?