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We mostly talked about QupZilla version 1.1.5 in the past. I have now tested newer versions again. Yes, it does not meet fast development and is basically obsolete. It can be interesting for the KernelEx 4.5.2 user to have an alternative for Firefox 9.0.1 or 10.x with RT's Network Security Services nss update. Qupzilla 1.3.5 runs with Javascript disabled. In my opinion, today 1.8.9 (last XP version, but 2.0.2 runs on my XPSP3, too) isn't much better in terms of website display either. Its OpenSSL 1.0.0.4 (LIBEAY32.DLL, SSLEAY32.DLL) is nearly unusable, but I can simply update that version by replacing these files. Newer versions support important cryptographic protocol TLS 1.2, too. I tested that on two machines. On the first with KernelEx core updates 25 (Kext disabled), I use OpenSSL 1.0.2.21 (1.0.2u), on the second with KernelEx 4.5.2, I can use version 1.0.2.12 (1.0.2L) or alternatively - I think it was - 1.0.1.12, in any case, however, 1.0.1.9. LIBEAY32.DLL, SSLEAY32.DLL: e.g. https://www.dll-files.com , https://www.npcglib.org/~stathis/blog/precompiled-openssl/ , https://indy.fulgan.com/SSL/Archive/ History and Bookmarks work. The tests are with the portable version (portableapps.com launcher). Disable Javascript in the settings.ini. [Web-Browser-Settings] allowJavaScript=false Path Portable: ...\QupZillaPortable\Data\PROFILE Unfortunately, I did not find some old versions like 1.1.8 or 1.2 anymore, even on archive.org for the possibility to try an older dll of Qupzilla to enable JS. Presumably Javascript of those old browsers brings quite little. https://github.com/QupZilla/qupzilla/blob/master/CHANGELOG https://qupzilla-portable.en.uptodown.com/windows/versions https://qupzilla.en.uptodown.com/windows/versions KernelEx mode: Win2000SP4 https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/QupZilla Portable/ The portable 1.3.5 already have Launcher 2.2.0, that doesn't work on ME/98. The Launcher can be replaced by the next older Launcher 2.1.2. Because I couldn't find any older versions, I built it myself with the PortableAppsLauncherGenerator 2.1.2 and NSISPortable 2.46.1. https://web.archive.org/web/20111121065924/http://portableapps.com/manuals/PortableApps.comLauncher/intro/quickstart.html https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/NSIS Portable/Additional Versions/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/PortableApps.com Launcher/PortableApps.comLauncher_2.1.2.paf.exe/download The successor of Qupzilla is Falkon browser. I assembled a first API list: Falkon.ini I started experimenting with DX10/11 , mesa, wine files, like dwrite.dll, libwine.dll, wined3d.dll. Apparently there are mandatory dependencies for Falkon here. For testing I have to enable among others [D3D9.DLL]Direct3DCreate9Ex, [msvcrt.dll]memmove_s=>ucrtbase.dll:, [KERNEL32.DLL]InitOnceBeginInitialize=o4e, CompareStringEx=z9e. I can't leave them on permanently because various errors result in other programs. I enable them for testing only. Is there a Falkon browser setting to prevent these calls similar to Firefox "layers.acceleration.enabled;false", "webgl.angle.try-d3d11;false"? Dooble Browser https://web.archive.org/web/20140214122603/http://dooble.sourceforge.net/ https://dooble.en.uptodown.com/windows/versions https://www.pcworld.pl/ftp/wersje/pc_122625/dooble-web-browser.html Dooble.exe files can be unpacked with 7Zip, too. 1.30 runs on ME/98. Extremely unstable with JS enabled. Javascript can be disabled in the Dooble.ini ([settingsWindow] javascriptEnabled=false). The profile name is ".dooble" and is in the program folder (...\DoobleBrowser\.dooble\Dooble\Dooble.ini). 1.43 (2013): Start it once. After the crash disable JS (see above). And try to start Dooble again. If this doesn't work, run it on XP and disable Javascript. Afterwards use the new profile on ME. On XP the profile name is OS user name (...\DoobleBrowser\-username-\.dooble). 1.43 crashes immediately with JS enabled. Updated: libeay32.dll 1.0.2.21, ssleay32.dll 1.0.2.21, libssl32.dll 1.0.2.7 I can't find some Dooble versions anymore, also not on archive.org. KernelEx mode: Win2000SP4 QTWeb Internet Browser Development has been discontinued. But the Website is still online. Latest version 3.8.5 (2013). It already supports TLS 1.2. http://www.qtweb.net/ 3.8.5 runs on ME/98. Javascript must be disabled. Before you allow internet access you must disable JS, otherwise QT Web will crash. Or set JS in the registry to disabled: (HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\QtWeb.NET\QtWeb Internet Browser\websettings) String enableJavascript to false. Portable version: Profile folder > ...\QTWebBrowser\QtWebSettings\QtWeb.NET > QtWeb Internet Browser.ini [websettings] enableJavascript=false KernelEx mode: Win2000SP4 Slimboat - latest version 1.1.54 (2015) It crashes on start. After a web search I have versions 1.1.17 and higher. I also found an older version 1.1.8 (2012) on my HDD. QtWebKit4.dll 4.9.3 can be replaced by an older version (e.g. of SB 1.1.8) to start without error. Don't take QtWebKit4.dll of 1.1.17 or newer. Configuration version 1.1.52 (2014), with older QtWebKit4.dll (4.7.4), libeay32.dll 1.0.2.11, ssleay32.dll 1.0.2.11. Problem - versions 1.1.53 and 1.1.54: Disabled SSL 3.0 protocol disables TLS 1.2, too! This is probably unwanted and a bug. Changelog 1.1.53: "Added option to disable SSL 3.0 protocol to avoid POODLE attack. SSL 3.0 protocol is disabled by default. If you wish to connect to legacy websites supporting only SSL 3.0, you can turn it on in Tools:options:security." Configuration: QtWebKit4.dll (4.7.4), libeay32.dll 1.0.2.21, ssleay32.dll 1.0.2.21 Javascript doesn't matter. Portable: The setup exe can be unpacked with 7Zip (no installation). Delete $PLUGINSDIR and $TEMP. Then create a file settings.ini in the SB program folder with entry [General] AppDataInProgDir=1 The profile folder appdata appears on SB start. https://www.afterdawn.com/software/network/browsers/slimboat.cfm/v1_1_17#all_versions The versions below (1.1.17 - 1.1.54) have the wrong name.. Slimjet = Slimboat https://de.dll-files.com/qtwebkit4.dll.html https://web.archive.org/web/20150211174715/http://www.slimboat.com/en/whatisnew.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20150211175203/http://www.slimboat.com/en/dlpage.php KernelEx mode: Win2000SP4 Versions 1.1.33 and higher require Kext or KernelEx core updates. KernelEx 4.5.2 users can try version 1.1.32. Not usable: Midori Browser doesn't quite fit in here. Version 0.46 (2012) works, but is nearly unusable. Apparently no https, no TLS 1.2 support. 0.47 comes with a new libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0.dll and Midori causes an error in that dll on start. Disabling JS doesn't help in this case. KernelEx mode: Win2000SP4 Anyhow Midori versions are available on archive.org. https://web.archive.org/web/20130707011718/http://www.twotoasts.de/ https://web.archive.org/web/20131201000000*/http://www.twotoasts.de/ Xombrero keyboard controlled browser (discontinued) - latest version 1.6.3 (2013) on sourceforge https://sourceforge.net/projects/xxxterm/files/ missing APIs (Hresult) [USP10.dll] ScriptItemizeOpenType= ScriptPlaceOpenType= ScriptShapeOpenType= It starts with error in libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0.dll like Midori! On XP Xombrero runs by replacing USP10.dll by the file of vista. But in my opinion it isn't really usable anymore.

Sure I know - I tested all modes an yes profiling in NT and above doesn't work. DW cannot hook modules. What I said is as far as I can see, I get the same results no matter whether DWalker is in the KernelEx folder or not, as well as with environment variables set. It's just bad having all the red boxes in the List and Tree Views too, though there is API support by KernelEx. For example it's very time consuming to find missing API's.

I'd tried it and set the environment variable in the meantime, but I can't recognise any difference. I also started DW from KernelEx folder. I don't see, that this solves any issues. What is improving?

Maybe DW Version 2.2.10011 built on 29 October 2015 is the latest and yes it requires KernelEx. So far I have only used the older version 2.2.6000. https://zzz.buzz/2017/05/18/download-dependency-walker/

Am I correct the problem occurs with following conditions: Win ME DDR3 or 4 KernelEx25 (v2) latest? Kexbases: EnumerateLoadedModules64 (ITO Stub) StackWalk64 (ITO Stub) SymGetLineFromAddr (ITO Stub) SymGetSymFromAddr64 (ITO Stub) These API's are supported by Imagehlp of ME, but not of Imagehlp of 98SE. In the past I tested different versions of Imagehlp up to 6.1.7601.17514 (Win7SP1). Currently I use 5.1.2600.6198 (XP) on my main machine. But I also had used 5.0.2195.6613 (2K) and 4.0.1381.4 (98SE), but that doesn't matter here because I don't have a DDR3 or 4 machine.

I would like to confirm this suspicion, but I have no DDR3 or DDR4 machine. The "Module Dependency Tree" looks good for user32 on my DDR2 machine.

=p1: Still no GUI

Firefox 54: I added [ntdll.dll] RtlDecodePointer= and RtlEncodePointer= to Kstub. Then no (error) message appears, but Firefox runs in the background only. Xul.dll is loaded. Currently version Central 54.0a1 (February 10, 2017) is still the newest I can start and run with UI.

Have you tested which Firefox version is the last with support for vxd drivers?

You can't run higher versions than Firefox 10 with KernelEX 4.5.2!

I haven't specifically tested with vxd sound drivers yet. There is no help from my side for now. One small step - a tiny news concerning higher versions: I have Firefox 53.03 and IceWeasel 53.2 with Firefox en-US language pack running now. K-Meleon 76: I got with builds, around June and July, a considerable slowdown on some sites, almost a freeze, also msfn bord, after a short time. It seem to be fixed with KM76.4.6-Goanna-20220813.

Downlod Windows 9x SSL Protocol WinSSLWrap 1.17 (Rev 08) http://www.htasoft.com/u98sesp/download98ssl.php The installer should work on 98SE. Install: You have to choose the instruction set of your CPU SSE or SSE2 (Pentium 4 or higher => SSE2). I think I installed it manually on ME: SSE2 CPU - extracted with 7Zip - SSL2.cab files into the program folder - name "SSL Protocol" - Sys2.cab files into System folder - created a shortcut to Wrap.exe on the Quick Launch / Taskbar ("C:\Program Files\SSL Protocol\WRAP.EXE") - no autostart - Configuration - see above SSLWrap must be running before you start the MailClient

I usually had this due to wrong settings. Can you create another basic eMail account, not Gmail, as a kind of cross-check. Yes, I checked this. Firefox 27 renders the login page rather OK and it seems to be functional. It isn't functional on Firefox 9.0.1 (with RT's nss updates). There are only a few things be taken into account during installation. Paste the unicows.dll version 1.1.3790.0 (download dll-files.com) in your system folder. Don't install an older unicows.dll version! Then install KernelEX 4.5.2 - Reboot. http://kernelex.sourceforge.net/wiki/Help:Contents Win ME is my main OS. And I use eMail clients - usually Thunderbird 52 and OutlookExpress 6 - here, but of course nowadays with KernelEx. I don't have an GMail Account since many years. In my opinion it should be still possible to use an eMail client also without KernelEx today. What are your questions about 9x SSL Protocol WinSSLWrap? At which point you can't get any further?

AFAIK RZ has no JS updates. You need at least Firefox 27 or 31 or corresponding forks, but that's not for sure (not testet). GMail POP SMTP IMAP: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7126229?hl=en

Did you try latest Retrozilla version. I think thats it: http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/rzbrowser-tls12-20200127.7z http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/retrozilla-suite-tls12-20200131.7z I tested RZ and I was able to receive and send. I have set for smtp and pop TLS, TLS 1.2 is supported, too, POP > no secure authentication and smtp > use Name and Password. KernelEx: It doesn't mean that you can run every XP program on ME/98. I never had tested Pop Peeper. 9x SSL Protocol WinSSLWrap should work with old 9x compatible eMail programs. It supports the necessary protocols, but of course the eMail program and WinSSLWrap need the appropriate matching settings. Services Configuration: POP or IMAP and, SMTP. e.g.: POP3 {SSL} Protocol: Enabled, SSL Tunnel, localhost, Listen Port 110 (then also Port 110 in the eMail program), Remote Host (pop.gmail.com) and Port see Help of your provider, use SSL for remote checked SMTP {SSL} Protocol: Enabled, SSL Tunnel, localhost, Listen Port 25 (then also Port 25 in the eMail program), Remote Host (smtp.gmail.com) and Port see Help of your provider, use SSL for remote checked eMail prog setting: PegasusMail - Yes, I see they removed older versions. https://www.afterdawn.com/software/network/email/pegasus.cfm/v4_51 The old versions are available on archive.org. https://web.archive.org/web/20100404035641/http://www.pmail.com/downloads_s3_t.htm no files on communityPM: https://web.archive.org/web/20150428030235/http://community.pmail.com/files/5/default.aspx

Without KernelEx: Outlook Express (6sp1 here) still works with Windows 9x SSL Protocol WinSSLWrap! https://msfn.org/board/topic/174247-windows-9x-ssl-protocol-winsslwrap-117-rev-08/ It should also work with other eMail programs. Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Seamonkey 1.1.19) ? - currently no longer used DreamMail 4.6.8.2 ? - no longer in use With KernelEx: Thunderbird 3.1.20 ? / 9.0.1 ? / 10.0.12 ? - currently not testet - RT's "Network Security Services" updates should work for TB 9.0.1 (Seamonkey 2.6.1) and 10.0.12, too. http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/Firefox10-new-nss.7z Pegasus Mail ? - currently not tested http://kernelex.sourceforge.net/wiki/Pegasus_Mail + core updates Thunderbird 52.9.1 https://msfn.org/board/topic/181424-firefox-24-52-for-me-and-98/ note the intructions - the account wizard doesn't work yet

I wonder. if the M option or SPLIT8MB of RLoew's RAM Patch make a difference on your system.

I never had problems to play from NTFS partitions up to VLC 0.8.6i (usually KernelEx disabled) with Paragon PNTFS installed. But, I can not say anything to Win95 and vlc from my side.

Lua was introduced with version 0.9.2 first. See changelog (News.txt) https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/13032/what-is-the-last-vlc-media-player-version-for-windows-98-98se-me https://msfn.org/board/topic/175610-vlc-on-ancient-hardware/ https://wiki.videolan.org/VSG:Usage:Version https://wiki.videolan.org/WindowsFAQ-2.1.x assertion - Contents 7.8 "With Windows Me/98/98se/95/NT you can use VLC 0.8.6i out of box."

https://msfn.org/board/topic/181637-vlc-player-illegal-operation-on-windows-95/ DosFreak tested 0.8.4b on 95.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210506152359/https://www.mdgx.com/spx/MESP1.EXE https://web.archive.org/web/20210506070920/http://www.mdgx.com/spx/MESP2_BUGGY!.EXE http://www.techtalk.cc/viewtopic.php?f=1047&t=121 Service Pack of member hjsuffolk14@gmail.com: https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2019/05/windows-me-service-pack-102.html / https://web.archive.org/web/20190121094040/https://hjtsoft.blogspot.com/2017/10/unofficial-windows-millenium-edition.html Unfortunately, the associated topic is lost here on msfn. I searched again on the WaybackMachine, but I found only little: https://web.archive.org/web/20170824231726/http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/176898-windows-me-service-pack/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170825030646/http://hjtech14.blogspot.fr/2017/07/introducing-windows-me-service-pack-3.html Apparently more has not been archived. hjsuffolk14@gmail.com renamed his topic twice Windows ME Service Pack => Windows ME Cumulative Update => Windows 9X Update Archive. The server crash was about more than two years ago. There are more packs out there.

Hallo, there is a MS update for Win ME 4.90.0.3001. Features Ctrl N, O ,S , P, Z, X, C, V, A. Search for unofficial ME ServicePacks. And I've one Pack, that includes Metapad 3.6 to replace MS Notepad. Website Metapad: https://liquidninja.com/metapad/ I can start version 5.1.2600.5512 on my ME KernelEX system, but it is not usable yet here. "Where is notepad.exe version 4.10.0.1999 from?" Probably unofficial https://msfn.org/board/topic/61749-98-se-sp-332/?do=findComment&comment=686701 see "key bindings patch" (15 years old)

Searching for tfileAttributesA brought: https://www.creopard.de/2020/05/VM-Windows-98-SE-mit-Ryzen-CPU-in-VMware-12.x-installieren.htm but german

Bookmarks and history -library. Question: What works so far? It seems fully functional to me for Firefox 3.6.28 or RoyTam's Firefox 3.6. Firefox 45, 52 and forks: I imported my extensive Favorites to Firefox portable and some forks on XP to have all these bookmarks available on ME. In my case all bookmarks are present twice with them of PlainOldFavorites. The file places.sqlite with imported Favorites can be copied to replace one of another version or fork. - Accesses from existing bookmarks are written into the history. This means history works, if the webpage is already bookmarked. - Bookmarks can be moved between folders.

Yes, Javascript usually works on my systems. I have apparent problems with older versions like 31 or 35. Of course, that's no surprise, due to the further development of JS. I ask, because there are some reports that it doesn't work at all and I'm not able to reproduce this. My lowest and oldest machines are Asus P4V800D-X , VIA PT880Ultra, Pentium 4 Northwood - SSE2, NV5900XT AGP8x + driver NV82.16, 2GB and MSI7104 Via P4M800, P4 Northwood SSE2, GF6600GT AGP / driver 82.69, 1GB.