@Orus, sorry i didn't saw your post until today. yes, that amount of apps take a LOT of system resources, that's why i'm not a fan of desktopx or samurize. i only use avedesk and yes, is really memory hungry (20mb or so) about the libraries thing, the download we were talking about are just .dlls for programmers, nothing of interest for deskmodders @sonu27, energy bliss was only intended for MCE they even didn't include a new theme (.msstyles, not windows classic) on the plus! pack for xp. i hope this to change in a short future