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Here are a few words about my plan C. More than 3 years ago, my good old friend @D.Draker had recommended the anti-malware programme Vir.IT eXplorer. I still had it on my internal list, but as there were no further tests or information available, I couldn’t report on it. It seems it had some temporary issues with VB100 certification at the time, but these had long since been resolved. I was also worried that support for Windows XP had long since been discontinued, as it is no longer listed as an OS on the website. So I downloaded the very latest version and was delighted to discover that the programme is still compatible with Windows XP. For some days, I have been testing Vir.IT eXplorer Lite. More on this coming soon. -
Thank you for your effort. I shall certainly do that. Perhaps it won't belabor the csrss. As I know now there are 2 instances of csrss (client-server kernel communicator) running on StupidWindows™ (NT 6.x) and only one on Win2K/XP. So it shows Avast bastards are deliberately doing this, simply acting as there was never WinXP. Let them wallow in their own mire. - Today
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For experimenting with Avast, you should avoid the last XP-compatible version. As far as I can remember, is a previous version associated with fewer problems. I have to look in my archive for the exact version number. As far as I can remember, there were repeated reports on the Avast forums that avast! Free Antivirus 18.5.2342 runs much better than the latest XP-compatible avast! Free Antivirus 18.8.4084.0.
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@Tangy Perhaps you can try Panda Dome 21.01.00. I am under the impression that this version is working better on Windows XP. It's definitely worth a try.
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I do not know if this helps the date if memory serves me well was december 2024. that file was downloaded begining of 2025. I'll check the exact date. -
All Panda Dome installers come with offline installer version 15.14.5.0. Therefore, this information is unfortunately of no use. I asked you for the programme version. The most recent is 22.03.05 but I currently use 21.01.00. And it doesn't matter whether you actively click the update button or not, the update is automatically done every day and there is no option to disable it.
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The file version of the installer file is meaningless, unfortunately. It isn't the version of Panda Dome that it will install. It's probably just the version of the packaging process used. As far as I can see, the only way to find out what Panda version it is, without actually installing it, is to extract it with 7-Zip and look in the extracted \Program Files\Panda Security\Panda Cloud Antivirus\ folder. There you should find a file called version.ini, which, if you open it, will list the Panda version and build number. -
@AstroSkipper Off line installer version 15.14.5.0. However being a tad stupid and click happy I clicked on the update from settings. What I am planning to do tonight is to reinstall and refrain from clicking update. Let us see how this pans out. Keep you posted. Cheers
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No problems here. With default settings the font ls shown correctly.
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Thanks for reporting! At last, another Windows XP user who’s also reporting problems with Panda Dome here. Which version have you installed?
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I don't have blurry fonts on that page. First try Options>Fonts and Colors>Advanced>"Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of your selections above" If that doesn't help try: Font Contrast https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/font-contrast-fix/
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Regarding panda forum reporting, to be able to uninstall panda you have to be able to stop the antivirus running. right clicking task bar icon does not always respond. after a few reboots my task bar icon informed me that my computer was not protected, a tiny red circle with the x. then it was easy to uninstall from add/remove. I also used their generic uninstaller which removed everything from my pc. I did a clean install but unfortunately the song remained the same. 5 minutes later it crashed. I have not got the foggiest how to go about it.
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That’s a very diplomatic answer. I see it a little differently, though.
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That’s a great pity, of course, and not really what I was hoping to hear. I haven’t yet managed to make the PSANHost process of my Panda Dome 21.01.00 crashing again after resetting the cache folder. I probably need to be a bit more patient.
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Well, I guess of those here still using XP, very few use Panda Dome, even though it's one of the vanishingly few security programs which is still supposed to work on XP. I found one instance on the virtually dead Panda forum reporting the same problem (with no response). https://support.pandasecurity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12151&sid=a73549f228b82be2dde1657a770a28e4 My installation is still crashing all the time. It stops if I clear the recent files in the cache folder but starts again as soon as the folder repopulates.
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@Dave-H Don’t you find it a bit odd that the three of us – you, @modnar and of course me – are the only ones reporting problems with Panda here in this forum and looking for solutions? Apparently there are 68,145 members here on MSFN, and allegedly 23,865 of them are most online . Where on earth are they all? Doesn’t any of them use Windows XP anymore? Or have passivity and apathy completely taken hold, and are people just waiting for others to have wasted their time on it but certainly not their own?
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Hello again. Sorry for the late reply. I have also managed to run the latest version of Java on Windows 7 some time ago after being told it worked by someone I know who had tested it. On their Java support pages, Oracle states they would only support operating systems supported by their providers. (So in our case, Microsoft supporting Windows 7.) For example, in the state of Windows XP, they stated "As of April 8, 2014 Microsoft stopped supporting Windows XP and therefore it is no longer a supported platform." (Source: https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/system-configurations.html) I'd guess what they likely mean is: "We will not test the functionality of the latest versions of Java on operating systems no longer supported by their providers." Anyhow, this is pretty good news for us Windows 7 users for now, but we'll have to see for how long this will be the case...
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RogueKiller Anti-Malware from Adlice has also dropped programme compatibility for Windows XP in their portable release (the installer version was already discontinued some time ago). The last working one is the version 16.5.6.0 from 24.02.2026. However, it can still download its current definition file. So. it is the next one that turned its back on Windows XP in terms of programme compatibility.
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@Dave-H and/or @Tripredacus and/or @xper -- please note that screencaps can no longer be "pasted" into the reply editor. The screencap appears "during" the reply typing, but is not posted/submitted when the Submit Reply button is clicked. -
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@reboot12 BAR0 is detected I see, unlike in my case. That means that the detection code on my i2cctrl.sys driver is not broken, the firmware maybe enables and disables controllers (power state of the controllers) based on OSI! If you want to get this to work, we are gonna need help improving the ACPI 2.0 from Mov0xDead to add support, because even if OSI would be correct, our current XP's ACPI 2.0 still doesn't understand this at all! @Dietmar This is where you come in, do you want to help me adding I2C/GPIO/UART support in XP's ACPI 2.0 from mov0xdead? Even making sure that it reports as Windows 2015 (Windows 10) and above in the OSI if necessary. My driver has a lot of XP-friendly implementations (this means that no KMDF, no acpiex and no spbcx), it tries to use I2C in XP's language, it also has a lot of unused garbage code that it's just sitting there tbh. -
1. Replace the `input.dll` and `mutb.dll` files from Windows 11 (23H2) with those from Windows 10 (19045). 2. This allows the language bar (using the desktop language bar) to be perfectly locked to the taskbar on Windows 11 (23H2); however, later versions of StartAllBack also support this. 3. The workaround from step 1 remains effective up to version 26H1, but StartAllBack version 3.7.11.4917 does not support Windows 11 (24H2). I hope the feature allowing the language bar to be pinned to the taskbar is preserved! -
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That was definitely a clever move. And has the PSANHost process crashed again since the cache folder was reset?
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Yes indeed, in fact, the first test I did was to replace that entire folder with one from an ISO image I made a few days before the fault appeared. It made absolutely no difference, it still carried on crashing, so I discounted the contents of that folder as having anything to do with the problem. I next looked for any other recently updated files in the Panda installation, and that led me to the cache folder in the Panda program files folder.
