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wiSHmaKeR

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I have uploaded it on mytempdir. I can't guarantee it is the exact content of the original though it should be.

http://www.mytempdir.com/682312

Thanks, eidenk.

It looks close enough to work [cosmetic WinME reference aside :) ].

Where did this updater come from? It's a slightly nicer way to do a batch job equivalent for most things that you can do in a batch.

However, when applying 98SE updates, there can be sticky spots to deal with. Here's a little snag:

I assume you cannot do a file delete with it, but a batch can. In another thread I documented there are strange properties of a small few updates where unless you can delete a file placed by a particular hotfix, no newer hotfix [or even the SP 2.1a!] can fix the problem. Additionally, it also causes QFECHECK to act strangely supporting the incorrect version.

Since I prefer to get as much QFECHECK info as possible [when are we going to write a QFECHECK manifest file for QFECHECK?], I install this obsolete update to obtain the QFECHECK stuff. Unless I can place a file delete command immediately afterwards, replacement updates [with newer non-problematic versions] later in the batch file cannot properly install [nor can the SP 2.1a later!] for the file [vip.386 4.10.0 2224 or later; the problematic update installs 2223.]

So, is there a way to make this updater perform some file deletion routine [perhaps a batch job?! :) ]

On looking at the updates supplied, I notice ample usage of updates such as to IE 6.0 SP1 using the familiar /q:a /r:n construction.

Please note that this does not completely work, at least in some of the cases of updating IE 6.0 SP1. There are some combinations of updates that just don't install that way. If you perform the update manually, you get an error message, usually something about "This update requires Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1!" and it aborts. Using the switches just suppresses the error messages; it doesn't get the job done.

This is why I devised the kludgy rebooting updater. By allowing a reboot, the problem goes away in certain specific instances where the updates were mandated to be installed in a specific order, with an intervening reboot.

However, I do have an open question: Is it possible to make the updates work by an alternate method, such as passing the switches /n:v?

Recently mgdx posted the Q329919 update, which I never had experience with before. Manually attempting to add it was rejected for a similar reason as above, but using the /n:v switch made it install just fine. [Of course this isn't a reboot problem; apparently the combination of other IE updates already installed ticks off the installer of the hotfix for some unknown reason. To that extent, it seems to be the same problem.]

In any case, I was able to successfully update an existing system to include Q329919 [use IE help/about shows the update just fine after all the others already applied] so all appears fine via this newer method, etc.

For a new install, I intend to figure out what updates to IE/OE are "tolerated" by the Q329919 update as preinstallation-acceptable "prerequisites" meaning what seems benign to the install process to avoid the need for the /n:v switch. Assuming this can be accomplished, then admittedly this would be one step closer to not needing the kldugy reboot between updates. [Remember, the kludgy thing always reboots between all updates, but clearly some need the reboot, and it's more work to figure out which ones really don't and which ones really do need the reboot, thus it's a generic kludge, etc.]

In any case, the main point to make is that installing IE updates willy-nilly merely depending on the quiet mode of /q:a /r:n does NOT always work, whereas certain combinations regardless of option switches WILL work as long as there is an intervening reboot.

Thanks to all of the recently posted updates and kudoes to all who have gathered them up. By my latest count, there are now 47 fixes to IE 6.0 SP1 beyond initial install OFFICIALLY and 2 more UNOFFICIALLY that fix stuff MS chose not to give us non-XP versions for. [Yes, I know that not all of them are unique, but all 47 will give IE help/about information, and clearly it's not just a matter of two streams of cumulative updates, one for IE, and the other one for OE; rather there are a bunch of one-off updates as well, and apparently not all of them are posted in any single place I am aware of.]

I need to get my act together to make the kludgy thing a bit less kludgy, and then will release it here. [it only does 38 or the updates because I haven't had time to add on the newly posted ones and some done in relatively recent months; I'm just now running at about 2/3 speed with regard to keeping up with all of the bursts of wonderful activity here; please bear with me as I contribute questions and answers to tbe best I can offer, etc.]

Can anyone give me information on how to batch [or use this nice updater!] for the two unofficial updates Q905495 and Q911567 in terms of option switches they might need to run in "quiet" mode or whatever? To be included in the list-of-49 hopefully!

cjl

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Where did this updater come from?

See the top of the thread.

So, is there a way to make this updater perform some file deletion routine [perhaps a batch job?! :) ]

I believe you can delete files with an inf installer so there should not be any real problem for you to do what you want.

However, I do have an open question: Is it possible to make the updates work by an alternate method, such as passing the switches /n:v?

I don't know, I have not tried it but there is no reason it should not.

Can anyone give me information on how to batch [or use this nice updater!]for the two unofficial updates Q905495 and Q911567 in terms of option switches they might need to run in "quiet" mode or whatever? To be included in the list-of-49 hopefully!

Why have you got a problem with those two ?

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Recently mgdx posted the Q329919 update, which I never had experience with before. Manually attempting to add it was rejected for a similar reason as above, but using the /n:v switch made it install just fine. [Of course this isn't a reboot problem; apparently the combination of other IE updates already installed ticks off the installer of the hotfix for some unknown reason. To that extent, it seems to be the same problem.]

In any case, I was able to successfully update an existing system to include Q329919 [use IE help/about shows the update just fine after all the others already applied] so all appears fine via this newer method, etc.

Hello CLASYS,

I understood the 329919 update recently posted by MDGx not to be for 98 SE, but for ME and beyond only:

* Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.5 SP2/6.0 SP1 for Windows NT4/ME/2000/XP Web Document Error IEPEERS.DLL Fix (English):

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=329919

- MS IE 6.0 SP1 Patch for Windows NT4 SP6a/2000 SP3/2000 SP4/ME/XP [218 KB]:

http://www.mdgx.com/files/IE329919.EXE

- MS IE 5.5 SP2 Patch for Windows NT4 SP6a/2000 SP3/2000 SP4/ME [227 KB]:

http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q329919.EXE

Since there is no mention of 98 or 98 SE, I assumed that for some reason this update wasn't suitable them.

Could anyone put me right on this?

BTW, if you've been through all the forums here, and have similarly used a fine-toothed comb on MDGx's site, then I don't think I can offer you any updates that you don't already have. I too don't have 300234 (mentioned in another thread) for example.

Edit:

Although I understand that this is maybe irrelevant to your own project CLASYS, the latest IE Cumulative Update (912812) contains a later version of IEPEERS.DLL than the one 329919 installs:

329919 installs build 6.0.2800.1132

912812 installs build 6.00.2800.1535 (with QFECHECK installed; otherwise 1534).

Edited by bristols

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Where did this updater come from?

See the top of the thread.

It just says it's on the MGDX site; Anyone know where it actually stems from [user-written?]

cjl

Can anyone give me information on how to batch [or use this nice updater!] for the two unofficial updates Q905495 and Q911567 in terms of option switches they might need to run in "quiet" mode or whatever? To be included in the list-of-49 hopefully!

Why have you got a problem with those two ?

Because they are user-written and need to know what option switches are used for them. Also, they are known to interact strangely with the O/S under some circumstances such as opening for browsing to get some update files, etc.

cjl

Hello CLASYS,

I understood the 329919 update recently posted by MDGx not to be for 98 SE, but for ME and beyond only:

* Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.5 SP2/6.0 SP1 for Windows NT4/ME/2000/XP Web Document Error IEPEERS.DLL Fix (English):

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=329919

- MS IE 6.0 SP1 Patch for Windows NT4 SP6a/2000 SP3/2000 SP4/ME/XP [218 KB]:

http://www.mdgx.com/files/IE329919.EXE

- MS IE 5.5 SP2 Patch for Windows NT4 SP6a/2000 SP3/2000 SP4/ME [227 KB]:

http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q329919.EXE

Since there is no mention of 98 or 98 SE, I assumed that for some reason this update wasn't suitable them.

Could anyone put me right on this?]

The KB article says it's for 98 and 98 SE as well.

cjl

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For 911567 and 905495, just the normal /q:A /r:n should work on the target OS's.

the_guy

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Edit:

Although I understand that this is maybe irrelevant to your own project CLASYS, the latest IE Cumulative Update (912812) contains a later version of IEPEERS.DLL than the one 329919 installs:

329919 installs build 6.0.2800.1132

912812 installs build 6.00.2800.1535 (with QFECHECK installed; otherwise 1534).

I am aware of this; and I also believe some in-between updates install other IEPEERS.DLL versions newer than 329919 but less than the still-broken 912812.

This whole 912812 mess is very boggling. Why should it matter which version you get on that file? Why does it need to have a registry setting to manage which one "deserves" to be present?

As it stands now, can I install 912812, then run URLMONFX.EXE to get URLMON.DLL backed to the last good version [or do I have to also do anything else; there are so many versions of fixups for this; does this newest one just have to be run as I describe above, or is there still more rigamaroll to perform to get it to work? And is there any interaction with the IEPEERS.DLL stuff as a result?]

A side issue: I just noticed that I posted three independent replies to this thread [with no one else intervening], but the forum has decided they are one giant post! What gives on this?

cjl (trying to break posts down to manageable size, but the forum software is punishing me :blink: )

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Before a few weeks I have been digging into MDGx's website and I found a pack which does this, but it installed alot things I didn't need. I separated the updates from it, and added some new. And it still used a batch file to install updates. So this is where the tiny program I wrote comes:

Did you mean Windows 98 Upgrade Pack ?

And like others said before some updates are obsolete.

Where did this updater come from?

See the top of the thread.

It just says it's on the MGDX site; Anyone know where it actually stems from [user-written?]

cjl

From here?

Edited by X-Mas

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Where did this updater come from?
It was originally posted by wiSHmaKeR on the following page on Dec 12th 2005

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?s=&sho...ndpost&p=433007

but he has not been heard from since so it's impossible to know whether he planned an update. His download link to http://www.mytempdir.com/314103 is no longer extant but eidenk has put up a new download link

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Q905495, IE905495, 2K905495 + Q911567 are unofficial [not by MS], but were created using Iexpress, which means they use same command line switches as MS-created [official] hotfixes:

* Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.5 SP2/6.0 SP1 for Windows 9x/NT4 SP6a/ME/2000 FTP Client MSIEFTP.DLL Security Vulnerability Fix (English):

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/ms05-044.mspx

- Unofficial MS IE 5.5 SP2 Patch for Windows 2000 SP4 [190 KB]:

http://www.mdgx.com/files/2K905495.EXE

- Unofficial MS IE 5.5 SP2 + 6.0 SP1 Patch for Windows 98/NT4 SP6a/ME [215 KB]:

http://www.mdgx.com/files/IE905495.EXE

- Unofficial MS IE 5.5 SP2 Patch for Windows 95/OSR1/OSR2 [190 KB]:

http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q905495.EXE

* Microsoft Outlook Express (OE) 5.5 SP2/6.0/6.0 SP1 for Windows 9x/NT4 SP6a/2000/ME/XP/2003 Cumulative DIRECTDB.DLL, INETCOMM.DLL, INETRES.DLL, MSIDENT.DLL, MSOE.DLL, MSOEACCT.DLL, MSOERES.DLL, MSOERT2.DLL, OEIMPORT.DLL, OEMIGLIB.DLL, WAB32.DLL, WABFIND.DLL, WABIMP.DLL, MSIMN.EXE, OEMIG50.EXE, WAB.EXE + WABMIG.EXE Security Vulnerabilities Fix (English):

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/ms06-016.mspx

- Unofficial MS OE 5.5 SP2 Patch for Windows 95/OSR1/OSR2/98/NT4 SP6a/ME [1.08 MB]:

http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q911567.EXE

HTH

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I have uploaded it on mytempdir. I can't guarantee it is the exact content of the original though it should be.

http://www.mytempdir.com/682312

This file is no longer there. :wacko: Anyone know what's happened to wiSHmaKeR who made this programme? And has the programme now been superseded by all the latest goodies or does it still have merit?

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Actually I thought that nobody liked this, so I didn't check the topic for a while! My mistake...

Can somebody send me the .ini file and the .exe, so I can remember the idea?

I'll rewrite it if I have some time and I'll probably add some new functions ;)

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Actually I thought that nobody liked this, so I didn't check the topic for a while! My mistake... Can somebody send me the .ini file and the .exe, so I can remember the idea? I'll rewrite it if I have some time and I'll probably add some new functions

Welcome back, wiSHmaKeR! You're one of the original pioneers and you've been missed! :hello:

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Actually I thought that nobody liked this, so I didn't check the topic for a while! My mistake...

Can somebody send me the .ini file and the .exe, so I can remember the idea?

I'll rewrite it if I have some time and I'll probably add some new functions ;)

Welcome back, this started as an interesting project.

All of us would appreciate greatly if you could update it. :thumbup

Here are your old exe + ini...

UPD_INI.ZIP

P.S.:

If you need to have your exe download updates from the internet, please don't hesitate to use my web site, I have a lot of files you may want to use.

All updates are here:

http://www.mdgx.com/files/

and here:

http://www.mdgx.com/spx/

How to get all necessary links:

http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=84886

http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=46581

http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm

All links are also listed inside SOFTWARE.TXT, part of W95-11D.ZIP [1.5 MB]:

http://www.mdgx.com/95.htm

HTH

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