NotHereToPlayGames Posted October 21, 2024 Posted October 21, 2024 2 hours ago, Dave-H said: Nice to hear that apparently I'm being singled out for this annoyance! Do you use OrangeMonkey or savefrom.net extensions by chance?
Dave-H Posted October 21, 2024 Author Posted October 21, 2024 Yes I do, and Enhancer for YouTube if you remember. Do you think there's a connection? Neither Enhancer for YouTube nor the SaveFrom OrangeMonkey script now work on 360Chrome, but I'm still seeing the banner there. I can try removing them and see if it makes any difference.
NotHereToPlayGames Posted October 21, 2024 Posted October 21, 2024 More here -- https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/1fibmm6/why_am_i_getting_this_blurb_ai_summary_ad/?rdt=35830 It seems the issue is the savefrom.net script. Deactivate it and see if you still get the AI Blurb.
NotHereToPlayGames Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 16 hours ago, Sampei.Nihira said: I would never visit YT with legacy UBO (without the possibility of the “removeparam” rule or an extension that makes up for this deficiency). You have do go all the way back to one version older than 1.32.0. Just how old does one go before you can start calling it "legacy" uBO?
Sampei.Nihira Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 Forgive me but I did not understand your questions well,if my answers do not satisfy your questions ask again Legacy = Not webextension I have no experience with the current development of UBO Legacy, @nicolaasjan informed me that the current version of UBO Legacy does not allow the rule in question. And almost certainly other rules and scriptlets as well.
NotHereToPlayGames Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 What is the "current" version of uBO Legacy? The only thing I can find is for FIREFOX. Maybe I assumed it, but I'm fairly certain that Dave-H's banner issue on YouTube is in Chrome-based and has nothing to do with Firefox.
Sampei.Nihira Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 7 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said: What is the "current" version of uBO Legacy? The only thing I can find is for FIREFOX. Maybe I assumed it, but I'm fairly certain that Dave-H's banner issue on YouTube is in Chrome-based and has nothing to do with Firefox. I believe the version of UBO Legacy curated in its development by @AstroSkipper You should ask this question in the specific thread. I obviously do not use UBO Legacy.
NotHereToPlayGames Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 4 minutes ago, Sampei.Nihira said: I obviously do not use UBO Legacy. Same here, no use for it. So unless Dave-H is using it, I guess anything "legacy-related" is off-topic as far as the banner being discussed. I've been unable to replicate this banner. But if it *IS* related to savefrom.net script, I cannot seem to find a good source for it, seems it is basically "abandonware" for my region of the globe.
Sampei.Nihira Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 Too many extensions = sooner or later some problem This is a well-known fact by now. Same correspondence can be made for using too many rules filtering in the adblocker.
UCyborg Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 (edited) Never saw that banner either, even logged in and without uBO. Don't use any media downloading extension, at least not in Chrome world (not that I spend much time in Chrome world, at least not on PC). Don't even know what's reputable and limitations of web extensions usually require special extra installs for some tasks. Ant Video Downloader was great back in the day, didn't do shady stuff in the background, still usable for some sites on UXP based browsers, there were no special extra installs, just point it to ffmpeg.exe for handling merging of separate video / audio streams. All web extensions require a specifically programmed (generally referred to as Native Messaging Host) application to be able to somewhat breaks the chains of crippled web extension APIs to do something on the host PC and AFAIK Chromium has the most crippled APIs, Firefox's implementation is slightly less crippled. There is a newer webext version of Ant Video Downloader, but no longer developed. Edited October 22, 2024 by UCyborg
Dave-H Posted October 22, 2024 Author Posted October 22, 2024 Thanks again everybody, and thanks @NotHereToPlayGamesfor pointing me towards the SaveFrom script. It was indeed the source of the banner! I was thrown a bit because it didn't look like their usual style of branding, so I immediately assumed that it was something from Google! I was on version 10.31.2 of the script, now I've reverted to a saved copy of 10.27.2 and the banner has gone away. The script is starting to malfunction anyway, even the latest version, as it will no longer download videos from Instagram (images are fine). I've switched off the updating mechanism on OrangeMonkey, so hopefully it won't update to the version with the banner again. This is presumably connected with this, which I've been seeing for a while when I first load YouTube - That is obviously from SaveFrom, as their branding is very distinctive there, even though I can't read Russian! You can block that with uBlock, but it's very persistent and keeps coming back again. It appears to be an ad for a new 'pro' version of the downloader, which needs a monthly subscription. No thanks!
Karla Sleutel Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 11 hours ago, Dave-H said: Thanks again everybody, and thanks @NotHereToPlayGamesfor pointing me towards the SaveFrom script. It was indeed the source of the banner! I was thrown a bit because it didn't look like their usual style of branding, so I immediately assumed that it was something from Google! I was on version 10.31.2 of the script, now I've reverted to a saved copy of 10.27.2 and the banner has gone away. The script is starting to malfunction anyway, even the latest version, as it will no longer download videos from Instagram (images are fine). I've switched off the updating mechanism on OrangeMonkey, so hopefully it won't update to the version with the banner again. This is presumably connected with this, which I've been seeing for a while when I first load YouTube - That is obviously from SaveFrom, as their branding is very distinctive there, even though I can't read Russian! You can block that with uBlock, but it's very persistent and keeps coming back again. It appears to be an ad for a new 'pro' version of the downloader, which needs a monthly subscription. No thanks! Google lens translates it as you need to pay them a fee of 400 Rupees each month for the "better video quality". Now, would you be severely punished (as many others already have) for saying that software is Russian, I wonder?! The local supervisor explicitly forbids to talk about Russia on this forum, which is of course strange, very strange,. I read it in several topics already, including the Yandex phone topic. 3
Karla Sleutel Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 It's about 4 GBP. (British Pounds) per month. 3
NotHereToPlayGames Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 27 minutes ago, Dave-H said: Thanks again everybody, and thanks @NotHereToPlayGamesfor pointing me towards the SaveFrom script. It was indeed the source of the banner! I was thrown a bit because it didn't look like their usual style of branding, so I immediately assumed that it was something from Google! I was on version 10.31.2 of the script, now I've reverted to a saved copy of 10.27.2 and the banner has gone away. The script is starting to malfunction anyway, even the latest version, as it will no longer download videos from Instagram (images are fine). I've switched off the updating mechanism on OrangeMonkey, so hopefully it won't update to the version with the banner again. This is presumably connected with this, which I've been seeing for a while when I first load YouTube - That is obviously from SaveFrom, as their branding is very distinctive there, even though I can't read Russian! You can block that with uBlock, but it's very persistent and keeps coming back again. It appears to be an ad for a new 'pro' version of the downloader, which needs a monthly subscription. No thanks! I personally forbid any of my extensions (or my browser, or my OS, or my text editor, et cetera) from auto-updating. My hunch (without inspecting the script) is that the SaveForm branding is easily disabled directly from within the extension's .js files. Just monitor DNS traffic when that banner pops up then look for that URL within the extension's .js files - I cite as "purely for educational purposes". 1
Dave-H Posted October 22, 2024 Author Posted October 22, 2024 3 hours ago, Karla Sleutel said: Google lens translates it as you need to pay them a fee of 400 Rupees each month for the "better video quality". Now, would you be severely punished (as many others already have) for saying that software is Russian, I wonder?! The local supervisor explicitly forbids to talk about Russia on this forum, which is of course strange, very strange,. I read it in several topics already, including the Yandex phone topic. Do you mean Rupees, I would have thought that it would be Roubles?! There is no problem here with saying that software is Russian, what there is a problem with is getting into political discussions about the moral aspects of dealing with Russian companies at the moment because of their government's actions, Discussing spying, tracking, or anything related to that by software, wherever it's from, is also fine, because it's a technical security and privacy issue. Saying that it's only like that because it's Russian, or Chinese, or whatever, is crossing the line, though. 4
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