reboot12 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 (edited) 12 minutes ago, roytam1 said: Preferences -> Advanced -> User Agent Mode I don't have that option. Edited March 1 by reboot12
roytam1 Posted March 1 Author Posted March 1 (edited) 25 minutes ago, reboot12 said: I don't have that option. in serpent you need to do reverse: you may need to toggle general.useragent.compatMode.firefox and security.csp.enable in about:config. Edited March 1 by roytam1 1
reboot12 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 (edited) 54 minutes ago, roytam1 said: in serpent you need to do reverse: you may need to toggle general.useragent.compatMode.firefox and security.csp.enable in about:config. WOW - it works I changed both options from true to false I didn't even restart the browser. @roytam1 Does changing these settings affect other websites? Edited March 1 by reboot12
reboot12 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 (edited) @roytam1 Bad - now I can't log in to pastebin.com and loop checking whether I'm a human. I returned to the default settings and now I can access pastebin.com Edited March 1 by reboot12
roytam1 Posted March 6 Author Posted March 6 New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260307-3219d2d-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260307-3219d2d-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260307-3219d2d-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260307-d849524bd-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260307-d849524bd-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260307-d849524bd-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260307-d849524bd-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260307-d849524bd-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2903 - Follow-up: Make types consistent with method used. (275947dbdb) - Issue #2551 - Implement ES2023 array.Prototype.toReversed() (0b605b4b7f) - Issue #2551 - toSorted followup to be 100% ECMA compliant (35a5dc9360) - No Issue - Fix clang builds on 32-bit ARM Linux. The clang integrated assembler can't handle these files. (825c1f4f81) - Issue #2957 - make WeakRefObject finalize on main thread (no background finalize) (2ea7b7945d) - Issue #2976 - Implement ES2018 Proxy `ownKeys` duplicate-key invariant and update affected conformance tests. (1abd7ebd10) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes. 5
roytam1 Posted March 6 Author Posted March 6 New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260307-40a79c75-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260307-40a79c75-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260307-id-656ea98-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260307-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild 2
roytam1 Posted March 6 Author Posted March 6 New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20260307-f45a54760-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20260307-f45a54760-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - import from UXP: Issue #2903 - Follow-up: Make types consistent with method used. (275947db) (956ca03a2) - import from UXP: Issue #2551 - Implement ES2023 array.Prototype.toReversed() (0b605b4b) (aa2afa845) - import from UXP: Issue #2551 - toSorted followup to be 100% ECMA compliant (35a5dc93) (1504eac13) - import from UXP: No Issue - Fix clang builds on 32-bit ARM Linux. The clang integrated assembler can't handle these files. (825c1f4f) (26bbb0139) - import from UXP: Issue #2957 - make WeakRefObject finalize on main thread (no background finalize) (2ea7b794) (fecb9d1f6) - ported from UXP: Issue #2976 - Implement ES2018 Proxy `ownKeys` duplicate-key invariant and update affected conformance tests. (1abd7ebd) (f45a54760) 1
basilisk-dev Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) On 2/22/2026 at 12:45 PM, VistaLover said: i.e. upstream (MCP) would have to implement that support (I'm not holding my breath, though ) ... Implemented "that support". https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/pulls/2991 Maybe you should hold your breath next time. Edited March 10 by basilisk-dev 5
basilisk-dev Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 1/23/2026 at 2:14 PM, adata said: Are Basilisk browser and Palemoon already too old and do not support certain mechanisms to support AI chats like eg: https://chatgpt.com/ https://grok.com/ https://gemini.google.com Gemini AI tries to work for a while, but it immediately "clogs up", it is often impossible to scroll through the contents of the window, everything moves and freezes, stops answering questions further, the circle turns and the further part of the answer no longer shows. All three of these services work fine in Basilisk. They might not work in Pale Moon because I ship an internal polyfill loader that Pale Moon does not have. I am not able to replicate your performance issues in Gemini.
Leokids123 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 3 hours ago, basilisk-dev said: Implemented "that support". https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/pulls/2991 Maybe you should hold your breath next time. How about IA32 or even SSE support? And how about 10.6 32-bit?
basilisk-dev Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Leokids123 said: How about IA32 or even SSE support? Which operating system are you asking about? Windows or Linux? I have not looked into this for Windows, as I am not a modern Windows user(I do use roytam1's Serpent builds on a Ryzen 3600X running Windows 2000 though). I was already looking into doing this for Linux last week. I had to patch some code but I was able to get a successful build that works on a Pentium MMX and newer. The oldest hardware I have is a Pentium 3, it ran fine on that machine. http://dl.basilisk-browser.org/basilisk-20260305163630.linux-i586-gtk3.tar.xz 13 minutes ago, Leokids123 said: And how about 10.6 32-bit? I want to start making our x86 releases support 10.5+, right now we are stuck at 10.7. The contributor who does the Mac builds has an issue with his build environment where he was not able to do a build targeting OS X 10.5 or 10.6. It was producing SSE related errors which is strange because even the oldest CPU that can run OS X 10.5 has SSE support. We did introduce PowerPC builds in the last release if that's something that interests you. You could run them in Rosetta, you might get Google.com to load after 1-2 years of waiting for Rosetta to run the browser. Edited March 10 by basilisk-dev 1
exogenesis Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) On 2/22/2026 at 8:57 PM, exogenesis said: @roytam1 A few problems that I will list here, these are problems that I have seen with Newmoon for a long time excuses please if one or more are already known. #1 Browser Window Randomly Disappears (tabs not tested, I don't use them) When two or more browser windows are open sometimes one will disappear until the browser is closed. While sometimes the browser window will show again when one of the other browser windows have been closed. #2 Browser Windows order swapping around (tabs not tested, I don't use them) Also sometimes with two or more browser windows open one window will change its order it had been with another Example three browser windows A, B and C They are like this A B C but then randomly they are like this B A C This happens more on browsing a new site and while the page loads #1 And #2 Additional to the above Whether this has something to do with #1 and/or #2 above. When loading or browsing further on the the second, or maybe a third window or open a new window. While loading will lose focus from that window and focus more usually on the first window (focus as in swap view to another window). Then needing to keep re-focus back to the window that lost focus, #3 Pictures are not been shown in saved web pages when viewed offline When save a browser window for later offline viewing I notice the pictures are stored in some filename.pjp base64 code. When a saved web page is then viewed later offline without an internet connection. Either using browser Work Offline or without selection that option. Many of the saved pictures on the web page are not able to be viewed. I had posted about this previously here that explains what is shown instead of the pictures https://msfn.org/board/topic/186930-save-a-single-web-page-or-a-complete-thread-of-web-pages-for-offline-viewing/ I save web page as is with File > Save Page As (CTRL_S) It would be very helpful if this can be fixed, so I am able to view all the pictures and not just a few. @roytam1 Tested with two recent browsers listed below that have been released since the above posts were posted. palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260228-d849524bd-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod-sse.7z palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260307-d849524bd-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod-sse.7z Fixed: #1 and #2 I have not seen any issue of either of these with the windows in either recent build #3 A few sites tested. Failed: MSFN web page save of this thread page one. With the Web page saved the browser closed and with the internet connection turned off. Started the browser and loaded in the saved web page the first three pictures do not show and all the other pictures do show. I have tested other sites but they differ from MSFN where all the pictures show. In the webpage saved_files folder all pictures are single .pjp files maybe this is the reason why other sites site to load all their pictures. Or maybe this site or the browser still need optimizing or a code fix. On 2/22/2026 at 9:12 PM, exogenesis said: @roytam1 Just some feedback of your new browser changes the previous with ICU63.dll and the later with ICU78.dll With the icu78.dll the browser crashes more and a debug will always point to xul.dll as the problem The browser also uses much more memory and always has a very high 99%-100% CPU load while browser is open I have returned to safety of the last release with icu63.dll palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251220-d849524bd-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod-sse.7z that is without issues of the icu78.dll. I will keep trying the newer releases when I see them to check for when you have the problem cured. Fixed: This problem seems fixed I tested with these two recent Palemoon-28 browsers listed below palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260228-d849524bd-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod-sse.7z palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260307-d849524bd-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod-sse.7z This said the browser still does hog the CPU very high and more so than the browser I keep going back to where the CPU is less palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250927-d849524bd-uxp-50b6047c84-xpmod-sse.7z MAX CPU with these web sites with the two lastest recent builds. these site really push the CPU and take forever and an age to reduce for a moment before CPU high again. Reddit not (using the old.reddit with any Palemoon-28 we can now look at this after so many new moons have past. But normal reddit site not the old.reddit CPU max Archive.org (Near impossible more so with searching and all the pictures old Palemoon-28 version easily handles this) Github (another where need to use the older Palemoon-28. OffTopic-Addons: is there better Palefill-Polyfill v1.30 that works with this site and other sites to show all the written words and work correctly.) Startpage Anonymous surfing for any site that doesn't progress to any site just sits there with a black operatic mask inside a bouncing circle, web page does nothing and CPU max This site does the same with older Palemoon-28 builds also. Edited March 10 by exogenesis
exogenesis Posted March 10 Posted March 10 @roytam1 U have been unable to visit this site below for many new moons. Here is what I get when try to visit the site https://distrowatch.com 403 Forbidden Browser Web Page Content: Forbidden You don't have permission to access this resource. and if do so using www which is is not the normal url of the site https://www.distrowatch.com Problem loading page Browser Content: Secure Connection Failed An error occurred during a connection to www.distrowatch.com. SSL received a malformed Server Hello handshake message. (Error code: SSL_ERROR_RX_MALFORMED_SERVER_HELLO) The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified. Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem. Digicert has weird results and SSL Labs is unable to test it. Two other people have tested the site working and showing correctly they were using Supermium 138 and a Chrome browser latest version. Both people were able to visit the site.
Leokids123 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 3 hours ago, basilisk-dev said: Which operating system are you asking about? Windows or Linux? I have not looked into this for Windows, as I am not a modern Windows user(I do use roytam1's Serpent builds on a Ryzen 3600X running Windows 2000 though). I was already looking into doing this for Linux last week. I had to patch some code but I was able to get a successful build that works on a Pentium MMX and newer. The oldest hardware I have is a Pentium 3, it ran fine on that machine. http://dl.basilisk-browser.org/basilisk-20260305163630.linux-i586-gtk3.tar.xz Any,but i was talking about Windows,although Linux is Fine.
basilisk-dev Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) 40 minutes ago, exogenesis said: https://www.distrowatch.com Problem loading page Browser Content: Secure Connection Failed An error occurred during a connection to www.distrowatch.com. SSL received a malformed Server Hello handshake message. (Error code: SSL_ERROR_RX_MALFORMED_SERVER_HELLO) The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified. Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem. Set security.tls.hello_downgrade_check in about:config to false. This affects upstream as well. Edited March 10 by basilisk-dev
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