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ArcticFoxie/NotHereToPlayGames -- 360Chrome v13.5.2044 rebuild 2

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On 11/28/2023 at 3:56 AM, Anbima said:

Gibt es diesen auch für die nVidia GeForce 7300 GT?

Here I'm giving the best 7300 GT driver NVIDIA GeForce 307.90 WHQL

Those are of exceptional quality and tested by Microsoft. 

 

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3 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Supermium has also returned GDI versus DirectWrite

Supermium with GDI versus DirectWrite is still very bright compared to 360 13.5.1030. 

1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Standard was always fine for me so long as I didn't allow web sites to use Roboto, Segoe, Calibri, Consolas.

 

If I set it to Standard, then most pages are displayed optimally without changing fonts.
However, I would like to have edge smoothing switched off under Windows.
I would therefore always have to switch it on and off manually.
Hence the question of whether this can be specified for 360Chrome.

With the original Chrome 43, the font is always displayed correctly.
Something must have changed with 360Chrome.

Edited by Anbima

29 minutes ago, Dixel said:

Here I'm giving new the best 7300 GT driver NVIDIA GeForce 307.90 WHQL

Those are of exceptional quality and tested by Microsoft. 

 

I have installed the 307.83.
Do you really think that the 307.90 is better?

With the original Chrome 43, the font is optimal with the same driver.
Why is that?

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Mileage may vary, of course.  I myself have never witnessed one driver render subpixel better than another.  I'd kind of have to see "before and after" and it should be able to be captured via lossless bitmap.

I do have one laptop still on XP but it will likely be Christmas Break before I could do some experimenting on driver versus driver.

I don't think it can be due to the driver. 
I have an ATI graphics card on a second computer.
Here https://www.dpd.com/de/de/ with 360Chrome 11.0

The second picture will be in another post, because I saved it as a BMP and it is too big for one post.

 

Edited by Anbima

And here is the image with 360Chrome 13.5.
The font is flawless with V11.0.
Maybe this change can be found and fixed.

Chrome13_5.bmp

5 hours ago, Dixel said:

Here I'm giving new the best 7300 GT driver NVIDIA GeForce 307.90 WHQL

 

Updated to 307.90, but no improvement.

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4 hours ago, Anbima said:

The font is flawless with V11.0.

Technically not true.  It's because v11 is not able to access the PlutoSans font (see below) and what you are seing in v11 is the "fallback" font (I didn't track down what that is) whereas v13.5 is able to access the PlutoSans font.

So of course you are not going to see the same thing when comparing what you see in v11 to what you see in v13.5 - you're not looking at the same font.

image.png.1fd99a92441fd316fdb604d1183e7b9c.png

 

You can get v11 to access the PlutoSans font by adding this startup command switch  --disable-web-security
But this will just get your v11 to look like v13.5 as opposed to the opposite direction.

14 hours ago, Anbima said:

I don't think it can be due to the driver. 
I have an ATI graphics card on a second computer.
Here https://www.dpd.com/de/de/ with 360Chrome 11.0

The second picture will be in another post, because I saved it as a BMP and it is too big for one post.

Chrome11_0.bmp 338.49 kB · 3 downloads

This picture is far less bright than the one with 13.5, it's blurry and has less contrast, it is heavily aliased, also looks like the driver applies AA gamma correction. 

14 hours ago, Anbima said:

And here is the image with 360Chrome 13.5.
The font is flawless with V11.0.
Maybe this change can be found and fixed.

Chrome13_5.bmp 355.44 kB · 3 downloads

This one is too bright and contrast, heavy on ones eyes when staring at it for a long time, anti-aliasing is obviously off, direct write is OFF in this case, too. 360Chrome uses this setting by default.

Honestly, I didn't like both. You may try to play with nVidia settings. For example, try to turn off anti-aliasing gamma correction, not sure if it will make a huge improvement in a browser, but fonts in games look less blurry with this setting off.

@Anbima, is this what it looks like for you? If no, then switch to disabled - to get the fonts smoothing. Though, from what I know, it should have no effect on XP.

chrome://flags/#disable-direct-write

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12 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

You can get v11 to access the PlutoSans font by adding this startup command switch  --disable-web-security
But this will just get your v11 to look like v13.5 as opposed to the opposite direction.

Is there a corresponding opposite command for 13.5?

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