legacyfan Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) will windows vista still be usable beyond 2023? with as much as ive seen drivers slowly disappear from compatibility and all programs not working anymore (even with extended kernel) I just don't know so my question is will it still be usable in 2023-beyond? Edited February 19, 2023 by legacyfan
legacyfan Posted December 10, 2022 Author Posted December 10, 2022 this is part of my new project (state of windows)
Brickedandroid Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) There will be some updates and new dll functions soon, as more users reporting the missing functions from the new modern softwares and drivers. But unfortunately the development takes so long time so that you will spend too much time to wait for it. I would contribute for the Vista Extended Kernel, but I want to report the new functions from Windows 7, 8, and 10 at once instead of the missing needed functions from Dependency Walker of the each software only. But I'm rejected because of this way. @win32 I'm so sorry. Edited December 10, 2022 by Brickedandroid 1
D.Draker Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Brickedandroid said: There will be some updates and new dll functions soon, as more users reporting the missing functions from the new modern softwares and drivers. But unfortunately the development takes so long time so that you will spend too much time to wait for it. I would contribute for the Vista Extended Kernel, but I want to report the new functions from Windows 7, 8, and 10 at once instead of the missing needed functions from Dependency Walker of the each software only. But I'm rejected because of this way. @win32 I'm so sorry. I like @win32's approach. He knows what he does. There's no need to add literally every crap the higher numbered OSes have, only need to add the ones that demanded to start a given app. I'm sorry you got rejected. 1
D.Draker Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 13 hours ago, legacyfan said: will windows vista still be usable beyond 2023? Vista and 7 are currently at the same level of Chrome, so I'd say , you'd be quite fine up to at least May-June. 1
Brickedandroid Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, D.Draker said: I like @win32's approach. He knows what he does. There's no need to add literally every crap the higher numbered OSes have, only need to add the ones that demanded to start a given app. I'm sorry you got rejected. So you must try more newer modern apps that are released beyond 2019, or apps with version/build newer than 2021, in which they are currently popular and have aesthetic-minimalist UI with rounded corners and eye-catchy effects and animations e.g. Spotify, Dropbox, Netflix, etc., and use Dependency Walker to check for the missing functions. Please try also the Microsoft Store apps on Windows Vista Extended Kernel if possible. Edited December 11, 2022 by Brickedandroid 1
D.Draker Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 14 hours ago, Brickedandroid said: So you must try more newer modern apps that are released beyond 2019, or apps with version/build newer than 2021, in which they are currently popular and have aesthetic-minimalist UI with rounded corners and eye-catchy effects and animations e.g. Spotify, Dropbox, Netflix, etc., and use Dependency Walker to check for the missing functions. Please try also the Microsoft Store apps on Windows Vista Extended Kernel if possible. Excuse me, why should I force such a terrible experience with "modern" apps on me ? I don't quite get it. 3
mina7601 Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 12 hours ago, Brickedandroid said: Please try also the Microsoft Store apps on Windows Vista Extended Kernel if possible. I don't think it's possible to run Microsoft Store apps on Windows Vista Extended Kernel and/or on Windows 7. 1
Brickedandroid Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, D.Draker said: Excuse me, why should I force such a terrible experience with "modern" apps on me ? I don't quite get it. Because sometimes they will be needed for something you don't know yet but you need it if you use Vista as a main OS, and you will don't need to be reported for the missing functions anymore. That's just like "Everything at Once" so the users will not have to wait another few years to enjoy their beloved modern apps or the newer version/updated daily apps. 1 hour ago, mina7601 said: I don't think it's possible to run Microsoft Store apps on Windows Vista Extended Kernel and/or on Windows 7. I don't mean to run it. You just have to obtain the MS Store apps and their data files, dynamic link libraries, and other PE-formatted dependency files from the Windows 10 VM/another PC and check for their missing needed functions using Dependency Walker. Edited December 11, 2022 by Brickedandroid 1
yoltboy01 Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 I would love to see a backport of some Windows 10 Apps for Windows 8.1, but even that will surely not happen (anytime soon). On Windows 8.1 even Netflix and Deezer won't work anymore, since they use IE11 to connect to their servers. If there was only a solution to switch it to Edge like Windows 10..
Eddie Phizika Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) On 12/10/2022 at 11:42 PM, Brickedandroid said: So you must try more newer modern apps that are released beyond 2019, or apps with version/build newer than 2021, in which they are currently popular and have aesthetic-minimalist UI with rounded corners and eye-catchy effects and animations e.g. Spotify, Dropbox, Netflix, etc., and use Dependency Walker to check for the missing functions. Please try also the Microsoft Store apps on Windows Vista Extended Kernel if possible. We do not like WinUI and most win7/vista users use aero/classic theme and win32 programs. I hate apps and sorry, apps are inferior in every way, not to mention all important apps are electron and therefore run with standard APIs Edited December 19, 2022 by Eddie Phizika 1
Brickedandroid Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Eddie Phizika said: We do not like WinUI and most win7/vista users use aero/classic theme and win32 programs. I hate apps and sorry, apps are inferior in every way, not to mention all important apps are electron and therefore run with standard APIs But are the MS store apps also compatible with aero/classic themes? Edited December 19, 2022 by Brickedandroid
Eddie Phizika Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) On 12/19/2022 at 7:55 PM, Brickedandroid said: But are the MS store apps also compatible with aero/classic themes? I would (would, this is not certain) suppose they would not work or would have some big issues to be dealt with (there is likely a lot of plumbing and dirty work behind they in 10/11 in system level) even if there was some way to get their dependencies running on Vista/7, unless if they were fully based on edge webview, in a way they would follow their own UI instead of the system, just like chromium. Edited December 26, 2022 by Eddie Phizika
legacyfan Posted February 18, 2023 Author Posted February 18, 2023 I can say that windows vista is usable in 2023! I've reinstalled vista on my hp elite and it work really well! 1
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