Dave-H Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, RainyShadow said: Well, believe it or not, CPU-Z has a Vintage Edition that is still being updated occasionally Wow, thanks! Edited March 2, 2021 by Dave-H Quotation added as the post is on a new page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Off-topic here of course, but actually I've now found that I've already got a version of CPU-Z on Windows 98, version 1.76, which works fine. Is there any advantage to using the "Vintage Edition" apart from the fact that it's actually newer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainyShadow Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Dave-H said: Is there any advantage to using the "Vintage Edition" apart from the fact that it's actually newer? You can compare your CPU performance to that of a 386 Also, it has the newer menu under Tools. Edited March 3, 2021 by RainyShadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 OK thanks, I guess I'll switch over to it then as it's specifically designed for Windows 9x. Can't wait to see how my Xeon compares with an 386! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licht92 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) Honeyview - An image viewer software. Honeyview is a fast, powerful and free image viewer. You can look compressed photo album with this one and it works on Windows XP! Latest Version: V 5.35 - September 07, 2020 Supported OS: Windows XP/Vista/7/8/8.1/10 https://en.bandisoft.com/honeyview/ Edited March 3, 2021 by Licht92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 On 3/2/2021 at 6:59 PM, Dave-H said: Off-topic here of course, but actually I've now found that I've already got a version of CPU-Z on Windows 98, version 1.76, which works fine. Is there any advantage to using the "Vintage Edition" apart from the fact that it's actually newer? This information may only be for my Windows XP setup. I am and have been using CPU-Z v1.72.1 (February 27th, 2015) on my XP setup because it shows the Core Speed in actual time adjusting to any use of the CPU. I just tried the newer 'Vintage Edition' and I get no 'real time' CPU readings ... the Core Speed just reports or stays at the top speed 1794.00 MHz ... no fluctuation with the CPU at rest. Dave, I tried both CPU-Z v1.76 and CPU-Z Windows 98, v1.76 and I do not get a true Core Speed reading at all and there is no movement of the Core Speed number. This version reports my Core Speed as 2400.00 MHz which is not accurate for my setup. Using CPU-Z v1.72.1 ... I do get Core Speed readings from 598.00 MHz to 1794.00 MHz. I had tried some of the 'newer' versions years ago and decided to stay with CPU-Z v1.72.1 because I like the 'active' Core Speed reading and all the other information seems to match what the slightly newer versions say. Seems like this version is 'actively involved' in my XP setup. As I said earlier this information may only be for my Windows XP setup ... those newer versions may work better on another Windows XP setup and a person may not care about actual Core Speed real time readings. I'd be interested in what others have for Core Speed readings on their setup with these newer versions mentioned earlier and then try the CPU-Z v1.72.1 slightly older version. I only use the portable ZIP versions. CPU-Z v1.72.1 ... in my case, is the last actual version showing fluctuating Core Speed readings. Older version downloads are still at the website. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Strange, I'm using CPU-Z 1.95, the latest version, on Windows XP (32 bit) and Windows 10 (64 bit) and on both installations it's showing my core speed as varying. The only anomaly I'm seeing is that the reported speed on Windows 10 is completely different from that reported by the Windows 10 Task Manager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dave-H said: Strange, I'm using CPU-Z 1.95, the latest version, on Windows XP (32 bit) and Windows 10 (64 bit) and on both installations it's showing my core speed as varying. The only anomaly I'm seeing is that the reported speed on Windows 10 is completely different from that reported by the Windows 10 Task Manager! OK, I downloaded the latest version CPU-Z 1.95 that you mention and it does work showing the core speed varying. I tried a few newer versions after CPU-Z v1.72.1 back in 2015 and the Core Speed didn't change anymore for me so I stopped trying any newer versions ... just decided to stay with the older version. Glad you mentioned all this so I will update to CPU-Z 1.95. The only difference I see so far and it's trivial ... I do get a little more information under the Graphics tab with CPU-Z v1.72.1 and less information with version CPU-Z 1.95. With v1.72.1, I get a GPU Name (ATI MOBILITY RADEON 7500) and with CPU-Z 1.95 I have no information in the GPU Name space. That really doesn't matter since I know that information anyway. Also, I noticed the Core Speed readings in CPU-Z v1.72 seem to be a little more sensitive. For instance I get constant fluctuating readings with fractions ... 598.15, 598.16, 598.18 MHz and so forth. With CPU-Z 1.95 it just stays at 598.00 MHz ... no fractions or tenths in jumps to 1794.00 MHz. So I guess there are some slight differences in various versions. I may keep the CPU-Z v1.72 version but still put the newer CPU-Z 1.95 version on my computer to have available. Since they are both portable and don't take up much space, it really doesn't matter much. Besides there may be more differences that I have not discovered yet. Thanks for the reply. ... Edited March 4, 2021 by Monroe sp, added information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 On XP GPU-Z 1.95 shows ID information for both of my graphics cards, but strangely only the ATI card is identified by name on the "Display Device Selection" drop-down. The Nvidia card is listed just as a "Graphic Device" although the ID is correct, including showing the Nvidia logo! That may be because its driver isn't loaded of course (I only use one card at a time!) There's no information about clocks or memory for either card though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampei.Nihira Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) Sumo (KC Software) in zip format also seems to be no longer compatible with Windows XP: Also the exe version is no longer compatible: Strangely enough, the latest portable version still seems to work: https://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/sumo-portable Instead, the latest portable version still seems to work. No errors, even if the verification of the present softwares in the list may have to be started several times. I have no idea if because of the degraded mode: But I don't have any block in the HOSTS file or in the firewall. P.S. It seems that an exception in the firewall for sumo.exe allows for easier control. Edited March 17, 2021 by Sampei.Nihira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VistaLover Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) I don't have access to the PRO (Full) installer, sumo.exe, but the "Lite" version, sumo_lite.exe, downloaded OK... "Not a valid win32 application" means the Sub System Version value of the PE Header has been set to > 5.1: You can try to lower that 6.1 version to 5.1 (with specialised PE tools) and see how it fares... Addendum: The installer is of the InnoSetup v6.1 format, so by simply lowering its SSV value in the PE header won't make it launch, sadly (and this includes Vista SP2, am afraid) ... More here : Quote OS requirements change: Windows 2000, XP, and Server 2003 are no longer supported. Windows Vista is the minimum supported operating system. Change in default behavior: Starting with Inno Setup 6.1 the [Setup] section directive MinVersion defaults to 6.1sp1, so by default Setup will not run on Windows Vista or on versions of Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 which have not been updated. Setting MinVersion to 6.0 to allow Setup to run on Windows Vista is supported but not recommended: Windows Vista doesn't support some of Setup's security measures against potential DLL preloading attacks, so these have to be removed by the compiler if MinVersion is below 6.1, making your installer less secure on all versions of Windows. Regarding the zip edition, the main executable itself, SUMo.exe, has a SSV value of 4.0 in its PE header, so will have no problem launching under XP; the bad news (for XP) is that it uses, to establish HTTPS connections, the OpenSSL 1.1.1i library (libcrypto-1_1.dll+libssl-1_1.dll file versions 1.1.1.9), which itself requires Vista SP2 or higher... Edited March 20, 2021 by VistaLover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampei.Nihira Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 @VistaLover The trick does not deceive sumo.exe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VistaLover Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) On 3/17/2021 at 9:20 PM, Sampei.Nihira said: The trick does not deceive sumo.exe: If you read my amended post (with addendum), you'll hopefully understand why trying to modify the SSV value in the PE header of the sumo.exe setup file is, sadly, a no-go for both XP+Vista... Saluti da Grecia Edited March 18, 2021 by VistaLover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampei.Nihira Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Only the portableapps version remains. Saluti da Italia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VistaLover Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) On 3/17/2021 at 9:55 PM, Sampei.Nihira said: Only the portableapps version remains AFAICT, the portable distribution in PAF format, https://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/sumo-portable embeds the official ZIP edition which, as described previously, uses the XP-incompatible OpenSSL-1.1.1i for secure connections; it is my educated guess that the app runs in "degraded mode" under XP just because of openssl; SUMo can't reach securely the main server (Options->Settings->Get Update->SUMo Server) and produces the error you posted... But all hope is not lost, thanks to MSFN member @Reino ; aside from his XP-compatible FFmpeg builds, he also compiles and hosts XP-compatible versions of openssl-1.1.1, last one he's got available is 1.1.1i: https://rwijnsma.home.xs4all.nl/files/openssl/openssl-1.1.1i-win32-xpmod-sse.7z (i.e. not the very latest, which is 1.1.1j, but it'll do fine for SUMo purposes...). My suggestion thus is to download linked package, extract the two DLLs (libcrypto-1_1.dll+libssl-1_1.dll) and overwrite those provided with the SUMo 5.12 PAF distribution; my gut feeling is you'll be then able to connect successfully with the SUMo servers on XP (I have no way to test my theory on XP, so I'm waiting to hear back from you regarding this ... ) ! Best regards Edited March 20, 2021 by VistaLover Various corrections 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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