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Windows 10 - Deeper Impressions

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Meanwhile in (or around ;)) Cupertino ....

BETRAYED :w00t::ph34r::

http://blog.seanbonner.com/2015/08/10/betrayed/

jaclaz

 

Nice find, jaclaz.

 

The money quote:

 

I don’t want a company deciding how I want to want to use my stuff. I want to make that decision. I don’t know if Apple respects my choices anymore. But what else do I consider?

 

Were it a few years ago, I would have replied "Microsoft" without hesitation. Maybe the commenter at the bottom has the right idea.

 

--JorgeA

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On 10 threre are also some controls or joysticks not allowed because they have not been previously authorized.

Even if they work with previous versios of OS.

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.adslzone.net%2F2015%2F08%2F11%2Fwindows-10-podria-bloquear-juegos-pirata-y-perifericos-no-autorizados%2F&sandbox=1

 

 I guess next week update is going to block mouse and keyboard, and USB sticks next month. Because they are unsafe as they are not MS previously authorized, We should be glad MS is helping us to protect our system !!!!

 

There is no doubt it's only another way to force us use their store to buy their products.

 

And what is going to happend when they start selling MS Monitors on their store?

Are we going to get an update blocking our monitor forcing us to buy a MS monitor in order to can use our PC?

 

This is going to end even worst than Apple.

 

Agreed, although from @jaclaz's link above it sounds like Apple is in competition with Microsoft to create the most bullying, user-hostile system possible.

 

One thing in the translation caught my eye. Discussing the Windows 10 T&C, it says:

 

In fact it specifies that the new operating system can necessarily download "software updates or configuration changes, including those designed to prevent access to peripherals or other services as copies of games."

 

So, whatever we might do to optimize, tweak, and personalize our Windows 10 systems, Microsoft demands permission to undo in a flash with some d*mned "update." :realmad:

 

--JorgeA

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Another Metro-inspired product by Microsoft bites the dust:

 

Windows RT will not be able to run Universal apps after Update 3 is released

 

Microsoft has said that after Update 3 is delivered to Windows RT users (primarily Surface 2 owners), the device will not support Universal apps. This means that if a developer takes advantage of the new functionality that the company is pushing heavily, that developer's app will not work on the company's aging tablet.

 

[...]

 

So, not only is the device not getting Windows 10, it will not be able to run the new apps that Microsoft is pushing every developer to create. Not that you needed another sign, but Microsoft is giving up on Windows RT and this is the final (final!) blow to the OS.

 

How many of these Microsoft dumbed-down interfaces are now struggling or have failed completely? And yet they keep bashing their heads against the wall.

 

--JorgeA

 

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Except the data collection and the "Evil" updates we all fear :)

i have good feeling about windows 10

 

Microsoft im process of abandon the old windows form style and moving to metro

which i think is better to performance less resources will used

metro is more simple then old form but have nice style like WPF

 

Microsoft will make it better enuf to make old Window form obsolete

they just need to find the nice touch between Tablet/PC

 

For now its good enuf for me i used it for few days its all going fine :)

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Newsflash: Microsoft crippled Windows Update on W10 because "Grandma clicked on red X"

 

https://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Faulty-update-time-And-again-W10?page=3

 

Yeah, I know I am massively wasting time there, but that reply was too funny. The shills aren't even trying anymore and seem to operate on auto-pilot.

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Except the data collection and the "Evil" updates we all fear :)

 

If you didn't  have written this paragraph, I could think  you work in MS. (Just joking).

Come on fellow don't tell me you like metro apps on desktop OS.

Or Are you talking about using 10 on a movil device?

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Newsflash: Microsoft crippled Windows Update on W10 because "Grandma clicked on red X"

 

https://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Faulty-update-time-And-again-W10?page=3

 

Yeah, I know I am massively wasting time there, but that reply was too funny. The shills aren't even trying anymore and seem to operate on auto-pilot.

 

What a pathetic argument that was. Doesn't the guy (I assume it's a guy) realize that the default setting for Windows Updates in 7 is to download and install them automatically? Indeed, a common complaint historically has been that Windows reboots itself all of a sudden to install updates. For those who don't know or don't care enough to keep track of what their computer is up to, there is no "X" to click on, red or any other color, by Grandma or anybody else.

 

Now, does anybody have insight on this quote from that thread:

 

Lets look at what "Check for updates" really is. Checking for updates is, and always has been, a marketing tool. Yes you get a critical update or new feature every once in a while but the real benefit is for the publisher who gets to monitor their license and check for competitors software and see where you have been on the internet.

 

What do you all think? Is he "on to something," or "full of it"?

 

--JorgeA

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At least on Windows 10 his thesis has no basis: You don't need to "check for updates" for any of this stuff - the OS monitors you regardless!

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iReligion: How Apple fanaticism turned tech into a cult

 

I'm sure we can all name more than one person in the Microsoft universe who would fit the description in that article if we simply went around changing "Apple" to "Microsoft."  ;)

 

The most striking chunk of text:

 

Steve Jobs is Apple. Apple, likewise, is Steve Jobs.

 

This is eerily reminiscent of Rudolf Hess's slogan, "Deutschland ist Hitler, und Hitler ist Deutschland!" I wonder if the writer may have had this in mind when he wrote that.

 

--JorgeA

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From another forum....

 

Bad Soldier:
One of Microsoft's finest techs was drafted and sent to boot camp. At the rifle range, he was given some instruction, a rifle, and bullets. He fired several shots at the target. The report came from the target area that all attempts had completely missed the target.

The Microsoft tech looked at his rifle and then at the target again. He looked at the rifle again, and then at the target again. He put his finger over the end of the rifle barrel and squeezed the trigger with his other hand. The end of his finger was blown off, whereupon he yelled toward the target area: "It's leaving here just fine. The trouble must be at your end!"

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Yeah, I know I am massively wasting time there, but that reply was too funny. The shills aren't even trying anymore and seem to operate on auto-pilot.

 

Seems like it really is wasting time if a solution to the problem is already known.

 

The spying is a much worse issue.  Don't fall into the trap of endlessly debating something that's no longer an issue.  It takes attention away from the bigger problems.

 

-Noel

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This might be unpopular to say, but LibreOffice is more of a problem than a soluton. Try Softmaker Office or Kingsoft Office. They look and feel far more like MS Office 2010. They also have better compatability with .docx

 

LibreOffice is like Microsoft's best argument. Softmaker and Kingsoft are far better alternatives, yet they get almost no attention because of that thing. Libre/Open Office only helps MS entrenching their monopoly - and that's not so funny anymore, given how MS uglifies all their products.

 

LibreOffice doesn't hold a candle against the other alternative offices, yet they are constantly neglected because LO and OO are in the publicity spotlight for no good reason and when people try to use them as the result of this publicity they flee back to MS.

 

LibreOffice fanboys are basically the biggest Microsoft enablers. I know my outburst does sound slightly crazy, but I've really come to hate software that makes metrotarded MS looks good. It only helps NuMicrosoft.

I've used LibreOffice 3.6 for the past few years on and off again for word processing type activities and have had no trouble with it at all.

As for being a 'Microsoft enabler', I find that rather funny since I'm typing this on the desktop I have that has vanilla Win2k sp4 on it.  LibreOffice looks a lot better than what little I've seen of Win8/10 metro so far.

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Yeah, I know I am massively wasting time there, but that reply was too funny. The shills aren't even trying anymore and seem to operate on auto-pilot.

 

Seems like it really is wasting time if a solution to the problem is already known.

 

The spying is a much worse issue.  Don't fall into the trap of endlessly debating something that's no longer an issue.  It takes attention away from the bigger problems.

 

-Noel

 

 

The spying is worse. But I wouldn't count on it that the update-blocker tool keeps working.

 

 

 

Given Windows 10 updates cannot be stopped the most obvious solution is to uninstall third party driver management and hand it all over to Windows Update to avoid clashes. This potentially simplifies matters by providing an all-in-one update service, but it does mean taking away control from specialist companies over their own products.

A second approach is something many readers mentioned in comments on my previous post when Microsoft confirmed Windows 10 updates were unstoppable: hack it.

Initially this might work, but in April senior Microsoft product marketing manager Helen Harmetz said during a Windows 10 webinar that users who forcibly stopped any Windows 10 updates would eventually have their security updates cut off. Microsoft has yet to confirm this brutal enforcement policy in official documentation, but if this is the path it chooses that would ultimately make any form of update hack pointless.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/07/25/windows-10-automatic-update-problems/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix

 

 

I’ve seen the tweaks but Microsoft has previously stated there would be a punishment in cutting off security updates for those who don’t accept all Windows 10 updates in a timely fashion.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/07/25/windows-10-automatic-update-problems/?commentId=comment_blogAndPostId/blog/comment/2907-12714-6803

 

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