RacerBG Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Like you can see I'm using XP and I'm glad to read about more support BUT...I NEVER download Windows updates, I'm updating only my security programs like AV. In this way my XP is always faster!Agorima, Panda Cloud confirmed that it's support for XP will continue after April 2014.ClamAV is still supporting even 98 SE.BitComet also.Most probably Daemon Tools too will support XP.That's all I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I NEVER download Windows updatecan't go more stupid than thisbasically you rely on your AV for everythingwhile known backdoors and weakness are still there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponch Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 out of context quote; and I'll take any 3rd party app solution over what MS imposes as "truth" or their "model for..." whatever crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerBG Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I NEVER download Windows updatecan't go more stupid than thisbasically you rely on your AV for everythingwhile known backdoors and weakness are still thereLooks like we will never have the same point of view with you but I really don't know what exactly this updates do more than making your Windows 20 GB+ and slowing it down like a turtle. When I was using 7 I was downloading everything. My initial boot time was ~ 30 sec. after 3 years it was around 1 min. and 30 sec. Without updating my XP it remained fast for years. And virus scanning (1 for 3 months) detected from nothing to 1-2 adware things. After using AdBlock this never happened again and my PC is clean. The only update which is worth is the SP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submix8c Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Oh, BULLsquat! 20+gb? Nonsense! FUD!!! Roughly 250mb for the Critical Updates beyond SP3. Anything else is "add-ons". IOW, PROVE it! I have -more- than the usual "junkware" installed and STILL have less than that! Please stop misleading people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerBG Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Oh, BULLsquat! 20+gb? Nonsense! FUD!!! Roughly 250mb for the Critical Updates beyond SP3. Anything else is "add-ons". IOW, PROVE it! I have -more- than the usual "junkware" installed and STILL have less than that! Please stop misleading people.I'm not talking about XP updates but anyway it's always better to believe yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submix8c Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) As I said...Win2K3 Partition (essentially a "super" WinXP) - 20gb allocated, 2gb free and LOADED, including a Fully Updated Symantec Antivirus (you may call it "bloated" with the Definitions).Again, I call BS, since -1 - The Initial Post spoke of Updating XP (yes, that's the subject)2 - Follow-ups reference AntiVirus -only- (on XP, yes, that's the subject)So yes, lets -do- talk about XP... If you have 20gb+, then that's on you, regardless of your -assertions- that you don't Update Windows XP because of the space considerations. Look back at the comments -you- made and the corresponding responses. (and the -other- threads as well...)edit - And I pose this to you - you are WAAAAAY Off-Topic. Ask yourself - what's the Subject Matter of the Topic? Edited January 19, 2014 by submix8c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bphlpt Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Like you can see I'm using XP and I'm glad to read about more support BUT...... I really don't know what exactly this updates do more than making your Windows 20 GB+ and slowing it down like a turtle. ... Without updating my XP it remained fast for years. ... The only update which is worth is the SP.I'm not talking about XP updates ...OK I give up. What are you talking about then?Cheers and Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody Thornton Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Like you can see I'm using XP and I'm glad to read about more support BUT...... I really don't know what exactly this updates do more than making your Windows 20 GB+ and slowing it down like a turtle. ... Without updating my XP it remained fast for years. ... The only update which is worth is the SP.I'm not talking about XP updates ...OK I give up. What are you talking about then?Cheers and RegardsI had posted wondering two things:(a) Would Microsoft at the last minute (no matter what they have previously insisted upon) cave in and provide further updates for Windows XP, since the remaining user base is simply too high, and thus perceived as a security threat to IT.(b-) If all versions of Windows (XP/Vista/7/8) receives updates on April 8, 2014, wouldn't Windows XP continue to be up to date (at least as any other version of Windows) until Patch Tuesday in May 2014? I only ask because Microsoft warns of zero-day exploits and what not on April 9, 2014; yet it isn't until a month later when Vista, 7 and 8 receive updates that XP does not. Is that clear? I think I said that right....lol Edited January 20, 2014 by JodyThornton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I had posted wondering two things:(a-) Would Microsoft [...](b-) [...] wouldn't Win XP continue to be up to date (at least as any other version of Windows) until Patch Tuesday in May 2014? [...](a-) I wouldn't bet on it, MS is set on moving on, and leaving XP in the past, so to say.(b-) Sure. Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) (b-) If all versions of Windows (XP/Vista/7/8) receives updates on April 8, 2014, wouldn't Windows XP continue to be up to date (at least as any other version of Windows) until Patch Tuesday in May 2014? I only ask because Microsoft warns of zero-day exploits and what not on April 9, 2014; yet it isn't until a month later when Vista, 7 and 8 receive updates that XP does not. Is that clear? I think I said that right....lol XP will be patched against the same threats as the newer OSes come 2014/04/09. It's not quite accurate to say "as secure as," since the newer OSes have additional safeguards like address space layout randomization (ASLR) that XP will never have. The moment a new threat appears, all affected OSes will be vulnerable, not just XP. The problem is that XP will never receive an update to patch that exploit. The moment Microsoft releases patches for that vulnerability the newer OSes will be covered. MS may even feel the need to release an out-of-band update--well before Patch Tuesday. But XP will remain vulnerable to it for ever. Unless you're still using XPx64... Edited January 20, 2014 by 5eraph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bphlpt Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Jody, my post was meant for RacerBG. I kinda thought that was obvious with my post and the discussion immediately above it. I knew what your questions were.Cheers and Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerBG Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Jody, my post was meant for RacerBG. I kinda thought that was obvious with my post and the discussion immediately above it. I knew what your questions were.Cheers and RegardsJody, my post was meant for RacerBG. I kinda thought that was obvious with my post and the discussion immediately above it. I knew what your questions were.Cheers and RegardsJody, my post was meant for RacerBG. I kinda thought that was obvious with my post and the discussion immediately above it. I knew what your questions were.Cheers and RegardsI had never tried to update XP (20GB+ was my Windows 7 after 3 years non stop updates). I was just trying to say that for me updates are useless no matter what Windows I use. Anyway looks like I'm the only one who avoid Windows Update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 out of context quote; and I'll take any 3rd party app solution over what MS imposes as "truth" or their "model for..." whatever crapvery out of context and this was quite a dirty trick by you Looks like we will never have the same point of view with you but I really don't know what exactly this updates do more than making your Windows 20 GB+ and slowing it down like a turtle.some are relevant, not all, I agree many hotfixes, especially in SP2 screwed the OSbut those that are for system level & kernel, I do agree user should havebtw quoting system on this board sucks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponch Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 and this was quite a dirty trick by you Only because you (well, almost) called someone "stupid" in the previous post. Which is against forum rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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