aviv00 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 (edited) Guide - Install WinXP From HDD or USB Drive or CDROM [ ver 1.3 Final ] Here the guide in steps :Method 1.Step 1 - Preparation:a. Make ur drive active and pri partition [using Diskpart or another tool like HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool]b. Use bootsect.exe to make it nt52 bootableStep 2 - file management:a. Copy ur WHOLE Windows Xp CD to c:\ b. Copy SETUPLDR.BIN TXTSETUP.SIF NTDETECT.COM to c:\c. Rename SETUPLDR.BIN to ntldrd. Rename I386 Folder in c: to $WIN_NT$.~BTe. copy whole asms folder to c:\I386f. copy the list files in SYSSETUP.IN_\SYSSETUP.INI\[ProductCatalogsToInstall] like [ProductCatalogsToInstall]NT5INF.CAT, 1NT5.CATSP3.CATNTPRINT.CATMAPIMIG.CATHPCRDP.CATwmerrenu.catIASNT4.CATMSTSWEB.CATOEMBIOS.CATnetfx.catto folder c:\I386Step 3 - editing:a. Open TXTSETUP.SIF and rename I386 folder to $WIN_NT$.~BTWARNING!!!!! don't rename the folders in winnt dir just those are relevant to setup*******************************************Step a in more detailshere the list u shouldnt rename:39 = "Driver Cache\i386"Architecture = i3861,"Driver Cache\i386"here a list of what u should renameall in the lines in subject [sourceDisksNames.x86]exclude 2 = "%cd2name%","%cd2tagfilei%",,\cmpnents\tabletpc\i3863 = "%cd2name%","%cd2tagfilei%",,\cmpnents\mediactr\i3864 = "%cd2name%","%cd2tagfilei%",,\cmpnents\netfx\i386*******************************************b. Add SetupSourceDevice = \device\harddisk0\partition1 to TXTSETUP.SIF\[setupData]*Notice if u use usb then change to harddisk1 however i didnt had problem leave it like that i choose to boot usb from bios & didnt need to change it its*Notice usually its F12 to run the bios menu for booting check pic here: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...st&p=844270i test it with unattained & nlited windows xp the Whole setup goes normal no problem at alli gonna test it again soon to make sure its work properlyEdited:i test it again its working Method 2 [ only for ntfs much easier ]1. install hardlinkshellext [ download from here: http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellex...xt.html#contact ]do all Step 1do step 2 just a,b,cmake hard link to i386 to $WIN_NT$.~BTdo step 3 b only and u finished common errors:when the setup ask for cd the hdd or partation is not right [ SetupSourceDevice = \device\harddisk0\partition1 ]Images:set ur vm (step 0)the diskpart.exe process (step 1.a) the bootsect.exe process (step 1.b ) copy the cd to drive (step 2)after mapping and copy the files set the files (steps 2/3)setup is ready Edited April 18, 2009 by aviv00 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mg.eggink Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 (edited) Hi, nice topic!!it worked for me with a Nlite-XP with a USB-stick.Additions:-- Formated USB to NTFS. Can for example be done with Paragon Partition Manager Fat32 might also work, will test later-- bootsect.exe is a Vista-file -- made a cmd-file with entries bootsect.exe /nt52 i: (i:=USBdisk) pause and used it ;-)-- Copied complete NLited"-cd to USB-- Copied SETUPDLR.BIN and NTdetect.com from \i386-- Renamed SETUPDLR.BIN to ntldr-- Copied txtsetup.sif from \i386 to \ and deleted txtsetup.sif in \i386-- In txtsetup.sif renamed all i386 --> $win_nt$.~BT except "Driver cache \i386" and "Architecture i386"-- In txtsetup.sif added SetupSourceDrive =device\harddisk1\partition1 ( in my case USB is disk1 )-- renamed \i386 to \ $win_nt$.~BT-- Booted from USBInstallation went OK, but it asked about ten times for a directory ( I typed d:\$win_nt$.~BT to continue).All related to files from PS3.Maybe I have to rename the "Driver cache"-entry alsoMGE Edited March 7, 2009 by mg.eggink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 GOOD. Just a note:If the stick is formatted through the HP USB formatting utility or through my batches (run on win2k/xp/2003), there won't be the need for the Vista bootsect.exe.http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5000If you work on Vista or WinPE 2.x, you can use diskpart directly on the USB stick, only be aware of this possible problem, that might prevent the stick partitioning from being "kosher":http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=21186 Registry settings to check:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931760/en.reg file:http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...21186&st=18jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviv00 Posted March 7, 2009 Author Share Posted March 7, 2009 (edited) Installation went OK, but it asked about ten times for a directory ( I typed d:\$win_nt$.~BT to continue).All related to files from PS3.MGEtry use bios menu to start the boot from usb so its will called c:\ drivethx for ur supports and for info Edited March 7, 2009 by aviv00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilko_t Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Good one A few questions:1. Does boot files (NTLDR, BOOT.INI and NTDETECT.COM) get copied to the internal disk? What are rdisk values in it?2. Has anyone tried it with USB memory stick? With USB hard disk when booted from it SetupSourceDevice should be as mentioned harddisk0, but with USB memory stick it becomes harddisk1 etc. as mentioned in the related topic. Has anyone observed different behavior?3. I guess USB hard disk gets drive letter C:, correct? Using migrate.inf should help as no driver is used to patch removable/fixed result.4. Why putting XP source in ~BT folder? Should be easier to copy it as it is in own folder, and give this path in txtsetup.sif:SetupSourcePath = "\xppro\" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviv00 Posted March 7, 2009 Author Share Posted March 7, 2009 (edited) Good one A few questions:1. Does boot files (NTLDR, BOOT.INI and NTDETECT.COM) get copied to the internal disk? What are rdisk values in it?2. Has anyone tried it with USB memory stick? With USB hard disk when booted from it SetupSourceDevice should be as mentioned harddisk0, but with USB memory stick it becomes harddisk1 etc. as mentioned in the related topic. Has anyone observed different behavior?3. I guess USB hard disk gets drive letter C:, correct? Using migrate.inf should help as no driver is used to patch removable/fixed result.4. Why putting XP source in ~BT folder? Should be easier to copy it as it is in own folder, and give this path in txtsetup.sif:SetupSourcePath = "\xppro\"thx1.when u say internal disk u mean the disk u gonna install xp ?if yes then yes but the setup system think about usb drive as prim drive and start the boot from there its could be fixed manually 2.yea check post num 23.i didnt try usb drive i guess ur are right its need driver to enable the usb 2.04.well setup use ~BT to load boot the system and then load the setup and then check for installation files that why i put all in the same dir if u wanna u could make 2 installation in the same disk with txtsetup editing and setupldr hex loading toothen its usefulbut then u need to use nt6 booting mode and edit the bcd store Edited March 7, 2009 by aviv00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mg.eggink Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Hi,I use a USB-stick (Sandisk Cruzer) Jaclaz is right. Making a bootable USB-stick with "HP Windows Format Utility for USB Drive Key" worksI used version 2.00 and formatted NTFS.I had no success with FAT32.Changing BIOS-settings did not solve the asking for "missing" SP3-filesScreenshot shows file names of "missing" files.After setting BIOS-setting back to HD-boot something strange happened.I can not install XP now from the same USB-stick!!.Booting is OK, files are transfered, but at reboot HAL.DLL is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 @mg.egginkYes, there is something still not fully documented, about FAT32 not booting.Basically it is due to "unbalancing" between CHS and LBA data.Try again using my batches (link above) or fuwi's batch:which does use the HP utility, but adds some (hopefully) fixes.http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=21702When something like what you describe happens, best thing is to wipe first, say 100, sectors and start from scratch:http://www.msfn.org/board/USB-Booting-issu....html&st=13http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=3453&st=8jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Yes, there is something still not fully documented, about FAT32 not booting.Basically it is due to "unbalancing" between CHS and LBA data.Can you please elaborate on this unbalancing or give some links with more detail about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Yes, there is something still not fully documented, about FAT32 not booting.Basically it is due to "unbalancing" between CHS and LBA data.Can you please elaborate on this unbalancing or give some links with more detail about it?Remember, you actually asked for it :http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5924http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...c=6165&st=0http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=21914http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=21136http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=21702particularly here:http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...1702&st=129http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2959http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=22016jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestonegroover Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Hello everyone Just registered on these forums after straying across them- I've been looking at a quite a few and your methods seem to be the best mixture of concise vs. round the houses bloat and command line hackery vs. gui frustration. I followed the instructions, and had to change SetupSourceDrive =device\harddisk1\partition1 just like mr.egglink (thanks) however, I seem to be stuck in an endless loop now that when xp setup has finished copying the files and reboots, it goes straight into the initial install screen, enter to install, r to repair f3 to quit etc. I took the usb drive out and tried it and it says there is a drive error. Does anyone have a solution?Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviv00 Posted March 10, 2009 Author Share Posted March 10, 2009 (edited) hey and welcomefor now u need to fix the bootcos the setup using the usb drive as ntldr and then point the system to load the os from the hdd drivei dont get why the setup didnt change the files on the usb drive [maybe access denied ?]the ntldr is STILL the setupldr.bin that why u get that errwhen i tested it in vmware and installed it from hdd its was ok the setup process did replace that file with the "real" ntldrso what u need to fix itbootsect.exe the hdd and place the "real" ntldr and ofc NTDETECT.COM[the setup think that usb drive the "hdd" that boot first the system that why its loop]and thx u i was i n the same problem like ubtw i gonna try install the system from usb to test it soon gonna check what its all about Edited March 10, 2009 by aviv00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestonegroover Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hi there,Thanks for the reply, unfortunately I didn't really understand your instructions. I'm trying to load XPProSP2 on my Dell Mini9 netbook, so I can't bootsect.exe the destination drive, I tried it by running the bootsect.exe command when logged into the recovery/repair console and it didn't work. I also copied over the ntldr file and NTDETECT.COM file and again, it didn't make any difference.Any ideas?Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I'm trying to load XPProSP2 on my Dell Mini9 netbook....Any ideas?WinsetupfromUSB:http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=120444Works with the mini12:http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=130809it should as well work with the mini9. jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mg.eggink Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) Hi thestonegrooverI had the same with endless reboot and install.I use a Dell Vostro. When I select USB-stick as first boot device in Bios Setup (Dell =F2) it reboots and installs over and over.Choosing the boot-device USB-disk during booting ( Dell= F12) it went Ok and restarted from the original HD.MGEHello everyone Just registered on these forums after straying across them- I've been looking at a quite a few and your methods seem to be the best mixture of concise vs. round the houses bloat and command line hackery vs. gui frustration. I followed the instructions, and had to change SetupSourceDrive =device\harddisk1\partition1 just like mr.egglink (thanks) however, I seem to be stuck in an endless loop now that when xp setup has finished copying the files and reboots, it goes straight into the initial install screen, enter to install, r to repair f3 to quit etc. I took the usb drive out and tried it and it says there is a drive error. Does anyone have a solution?Many thanks Edited March 12, 2009 by mg.eggink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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