I just did a reformat earlier and when I went to Windows Update, it offered me a Nvidia Driver Update 3.2mb. Since this is normally Microsoft Certified stuff that they offer here I chose it and it installed. After 5 minutes of using my PC, it suddenly reboots and tells me that serious errors were caused by the **** Nvidia driver. It was version 23.12 if I'm correct. So I rolled back those lousy drivers. Sigh... when will those detonator drivers ever amount to anything. :assblast