first look at pricegrabber.com 2nd either buy lite-on or plextor lite on is cheaper. then u can buy pioneer then u can buy sony which mostly uses lite-on products. then if u don't like any of those (which are the top 4) the rest i'd say are mostly the same quality.. i had bought my lite-on 811 for $140 1.5 months ago now they've true 8x i dunno the price. i have burned over 40 dvd's no problem at all!! i was writing at 2x (bc of my bad media) anyways now i've upgraded to 4x media, it rocks 15min !!!