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yes but nod32 hasn't failed since 97 or 98. BY the way in my shop here I'm using nod all the time to clean up after norton installs. Norton is worse than many of the free products out there.

Your reposrts on virus bullitin are very wrong. The issue is that you are only seeing a small portion of the report. The rest is pay for at some 1000$ a pop and many corporations use their reports for making their decisions. The issues here is that many pof hte other reports listed here are not varifiable by anybody other than those doing the test themselves. Therefore you really have no idea about the quality of the data they collected. I can gurantee you that corps dont pay for the reports fomr virus bulitin for nothing. Also rememeber that at virusbtn you are only seeing the in the wild virii testing for free. They are very correct as far as in the wild virii are concerned.

no problem enjoy.

well even better is the open unatended server. http://unattended.sourceforge.net/ You will find it very insteresting. And free. Those open source guys are really a big help most the time. oh and running the netwrok stuff for app installs can be done through the network also. Check this thread for how to. http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=35750 my post on how to fix the network install is here http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=35750&st=30

Oh sure thats no problem. Sorry for the missunderstanding. Well the issue is that micrsoft left out some info in the system hive so you need to edit it and add back the missing info. To fix this problem, edit the Hivesys.inf file on your Windows XP distribution share, and add the following missing statement after the HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\NetworkProvider\HwOrder",,0x00000012 line: HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\NetworkProvider\Order",,0x00000012 this will allow you to do installs from t-12 and t-13 since the rest of the networking is up and running. Enjoy.

No thanks! How DID you get it working at the T12 stage? I cannot use Net use at this stage. It says: "Workstation not running". If I try to run it manually ( net start workstation), it reports that the service is already running Well I don't use it at this stage but still curious how you did it. Also, I don't care how pretty my installation looks.. as longs as it's unattented and flexible! well I could tell you but you dont really seem interested. Or are you. Or did I understand no thanks properly. At any rate I can even post screenies if you want. If you are referring to xplode. Well like you I was doing everything mostly with batch files and some inf files to make it look perty but to be honest xplode works over a network and the xml is dead simple it is much easier ot maintian than a bunch of text files. It even has a silent mode for installing sliently. This comes in handy if you run a whole office and would like to push updates to clients systems in the morning when they first log in. Since I do this for a living I did weigh the cost first.

I used some of this but I only have it change to the directory and then execute explode. Explode is very easy to sonfigure and use and it looks nice. The xml file it uses is no harder than a batch file really. Thanks for the code it works perfectly though for accessing the share. I also have gotten it working durring t-12. Thanks again.

goto the xoblite website. It's a version of blackbox for windows. I dont remember the command right off to replace the windows shell but xoblite will autoinstall it self as the shell if you pass it the --install switch. here is the site http://xoblite.net/ here are some picks of my desktop http://www.deviantart.com/view/13939852/ http://www.deviantart.com/view/13939799/

one more thing does notetab2 do tabs for having multiple documents open?

were is your shutdown.exe located?

if you are faculty at a university then you can get a free copy of vmware here http://www.vmware.com/academic/academic_login.jsp

for those who dont know here is the cost for the link above. VMware Workstation enables developers and system administrators to develop and test the most complex networked server-class applications running on Microsoft Windows, Linux or NetWare all on a single desktop. $189 electronic distribution $199 packaged distribution

possibly but I also have a legit copy of virt pc that I got from micrsoft. They hand out copies for system devs. I also dont have a legit copy of vmware and am not about to pay for it. So unless somebody can point out a legit way to get it free I dont think I'll be using it.

what app did you use to edit your cmd files. I love pspad but it defaults to unicode for everything (cmd files require ansi) and when I create cmd files with it or even if I edit my cmd files using pspad it will trash them. I have to copy the text out of it and past it into plain old notepad then save it again with notepad. I spent quite a few days trying to figure out why my scritps kept failing. The scipts whould start but they would jsut stop running and quit. It was quite frustrating.

well for just that reason I'm now using explode from cmdlines.txt. I have it running from over a network and there is no possibility to change any settings in it durring runtime. I just have cmdlines.txt start the network and check for the install dir on the sever and then it runs xplode. This works great and lets me only have ot worry about the one folder with it's apps and customizations. It also has the advantage of running from cmdlines.txt which helps me to setup so many things automaticly. It even sets default settings for all the users on the system because everything gets applied to the all users or default users account at this point.

thanks for the update wraith. I have almost my whole install converted over now to using xplode4. I have also found out how to load the network at t-12 and have setup a network share to test it out on. This should be fun.

for some of us runonce was never mainstream. To many limitations.

After having these kinds of issues for the last ytear and a half. I was recently going through my scripts and it finally hit me what was going on. In my case I was ceating my user accounts before I was running my cleanup.cmd. Well after tht it is to late the new users account has already been created from the default account. By the time the cleanup.cmd is running your only cleaning up the default account and the all users account and your new user has already been made from the default account before your cleaned the default account up. So you need to reorder the way things are done. Do your cleanup and copying files and such. In my case I also do all my program installes from here so that the settings get applied to the default account also. Then as the last thing you do create your user account. For my I'm also not using the winnt.sif. All this can be done easily from cmdlines.txt. One other thing if you do this from anything but cmdlines.txt it will be to late since the accounts will already be created. This is not so bad but it will mena that you will have more accounts to clean up.

the inf method is similar to runonceex in that you use the runonce settings to have a nice little dialog box that shows which apps are being installed. So in that respect it looks the same more or less. The advantage to the inf method is that it can be called during t-13, t-12, etc as well as during guirunonce. The advantage to all this is that when your apps install they are available for all users as the active user account at that time is default user. This means that any new user created on the system will have their files copied from the default user account. You will end up with start menu entries for each user, quicklinks, desktop shortcuts, etc. This also means and registry settings you change will effect all users instead of just one. I have recently been looking over xplode though and now instead of a combination of inf files and cmd files xplode can do this all. I still use a couple inf files and batch a couple batch files but most all of it is done by explode. Xplode looks nicer than inf files ( and runonceex) and can also be called during t-13, 1-12, etx. I'm currently converting all this over and it works very nicely. I have it working with a dual cd setup and still use inf files for my eject cdrom dialogs. since I can have them display a message and pop up an ok box to press once the new cd has been put in the drive. I have also looked at wpi. Compared to xplode. wpi is not as automatic. Xplode is completely automatic. I have not tried it but I think wpi has to be called no earlier than during giorunonce. This means that if you need to have settings for all users it's going to be a pain to set it up. However if you system is a single user system that may be fine for you. Wpi also lets you select what you would like to install so in this respect if you need for some reason to change settings and default installed apps allot this may be good for you. The others I have not checked out. Windows instelation healper by the way is more or less similar to the same functionality as explode is.

no unless they have the same file names you can put them all in the same directory. If there are file names that match then you need ot change the names and the inf files acordingly to popint to the new file names.

Yes I have built quite a few of those kinds of cd's but I'm trying to stay away from the unatended method now as it is impossible to do a restore on a system. which is kind of important.

One more thing would you mind sharing that driver pack?

and how would you do it without winnt.sif? I know I can easily do this from cmdlines.txt but I think that is to late and all the hardware detection would be done. Correct.

Hm I'm biased since I started the inf installers for this site. But after looking at everything I still am using the inf stuff. I dont mena tunonceex either. Since I run everything from the cmdlines.txt it is kind of worthless to use runonceex. Nice thing about this method is that it looks perty but other than that it doesn't have any advantage over batch files. The nice thing about running for cmdlines.txt is that all regisrty entries get added to default user and as such mena that all aplications work for every user. I'm looking at using xplode in a future version though. For now though I have figured out how to eject the cdrom using the inf installer method which lets me use a second cdrom for installing my apps. Ah life is good. Oh it shuts the cdrom after the new cd is put in also.

I'm interested in this at what point durring the install is this usable? For me it has to be durring the cmdlines.txt portion of the install. That way anything installed is added to the default user profile and will work for all users. I'm only curious because I'm unsure if netwroking has been setup at htat point which means that using this method would not be usable for me.