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Well, i used file form link above - its named oem.inf made it matters, i expected that there is some default file, but there is not, you have to generated through batch.exe setup located on Win98SE cd in \tools\reskit\batch\ (optimal.ini file seems to be needed to run it) - yes you can save it empty / default, without really using the setup. I have tried to fill all the data in setup wizard, it still working fine on Windows 10, but there are not data which you posted above, question where exactly put these, it script, but its sequential so location matters. I have found: [Install] section, with contains this values: AddReg=RunOnce.BatchDelay,Run.Installed.Components,Skip.PCMCIA.Wizard,User.Profiles.Reg,User.Box.One,User.Box.Two,Registry.WinUpdate its between [Printer] and [RunOnce.BatchDelay] Its the right section where to put these files, or it more [Install] section are possible and i have to put it elsewhere? My new file, where through wizard is attached, its very similar to file which i used form the link above. BTW its normal, that autoexec.bat and config.sys contains only setver in autoexec.bat and they are completely empty? Im not sure, but i had some system attrib tags on old files, so maybe they could not be removed by the setup, or if they already exists, setup is not modify them.. I have bad memory so i dont really remember, i was used in not english install there where always somethin to set code pages etc. Win.com switches - it would be great, if you understand them, to add some description there.. I dont understand is for example this - "EMMExclude=A000-FFFF" is still related to Windows not MS-DOS fallback or MS-DOS mode run from Windows Desktop.. Usher's-method sounds interesting too. Well i had to already edit settings - i mean manually add /Numhandles=64 (BTW what is better 64 or 128 for me there are just magic values) parameter, its nice to know that this exist for machine, where is not himemX.exe yet copied. Otherwise in not big difference add HimemX edits or Himem.sys switch parameters. Unless its possible add Himem.sys parameter right into install script. Other option how to bypass is run Rloew patchmem /m ; or even intergrated Rloew Mem patch right into install *.iso, so far not looked in how to do it. Otherwise i was able to reach normal mode, after Rloew patches install by running: patchmem // i forgot /m parameter maybe it matters // but with io.sys and himemX.exe and vcache is probably not needed anyway ptchsata - and copy Sata.inf into Windows\INF folder, INF folder is hidden - it may to be visible by Filemanager in default settings. Front USB are working with default USB and nUSB drivers, card machine USBs, whare are using different USB 2.0 controllers, not working yet with default or nUSB drivers - i have tried 3.5 there are supposed to be "better".. and all other drivers hell.. msbatch-RuThaNgeneratedBeforeManualModification.zip

Ok i finished installation, with attached script + batch file to start it, just change your Windows 98 product key, you can edit other things like hostname or Windows folder name etc, but like 99% of these except product key could be edited later. I was not entirely smooth, after second its there was freeze on HW detection, problem could be loaded USBDDos.Exe /Hid driver, i loaded it by mistake. It also seems that script is not deleting (or because of some bug at least not my machine) Autoexec.bat or Config.sys - stayed and in config was already HimemX.exe line to fix 512+ MB problem. DEVICE=C:\DRIVERS\HIMEMX.EXE /MAX=1148576 /NUMHANDLES=64 /METHOD:FAST /VERBOSE Normally is in this phase, my machine crash with io.sys and himem.sys error and i have to install io.sys 512+ MB patch and copy himemX.exe instead Himem.SYS to Windows directory... and had line above in config.sys and change vcache parameters in WIndows\System.ini for these: MaxFileCache=261120 MinFileCache=32768 ChunkSize=4096 I already replaced WIN98_54.CAB with Rloew patch, but other patches are probably needed to bypass manual io.sys patching. After one more restart, i installation finished, i saw how it progress fine after Computer name screen, all seemed ok, and i got stuck on shutdown screen, machine not should down (which i my machine specific), so i restarted and next boot freeze, which i sort of expected.. I tried to boot in safe mode, but got IO.SYS crash as expected - so i patched it as above and copied again himem.exe into win directory (before i loaded it from other directory) and edited system.ini - after it, i was finally boot into safe mode and i desktop loaded = installation finished.. if not you will get info, that installation not finished and safe mode is not available.. So all fine, i now will make partition image.. and fiddle with right RLoew driver get SATA controller in ATA mode working with DMA, which is probably reason of non safe mode working. Its Dell PowerEdge 1950 modded for retro gaming so i not expected easy job.. its using wild storage IRQ like 23 and 78. At the end make own unattended script mod wasn't hard and it does not took too much time. Thx for help. After i plan to mess with NT4, which seems to be even more "fun", so far its rebooting during setup loading... !Unattended-AutomaticInstall-ToQuickInstall-AndBy-No-Working-KeyboardAndMouse.zip

Ok i have created whole new script, with all parameters, now its running, im will let you know and upload the script, in link above are parameters without description i found and added a bit more explanations to the script. I run it this way: setup RUnatend.INF /ie /im /is /iv /nr ; name of batch has to be before parameters, also it took quite a lot of time to start, after initial progress bar reach 100% There was only problem with warning messages about first NTFS partition, its SU0012 abd SU0015.. Im lucky enough to have mouse and keyboard running at the start of install, but someone could not have such options. Im not sure if it could be fooled, but hiding this partition and of course, you can make backup,delete it and recover it after Win98 install.. Or maybe its enough to make FAT32 partition first.. I made NTFS partition first, because Windows NT bootloader at least on some machines has i problem to start far from disk start, im not sure if problem is 2GB or 8GB and it could change if service pack integration to WinNT installer. Other i copied win98 directory on the started partition and and started it. Other issue is that setup has to be started from FAT32 primary active partition on the first disk, otherwise it need FAT32 or maybe FAT16 on the first disk.. So i removed SCSI controller with Disc Array which was reported as first disk. I btw found some project using BootIT manager and FAT16+ partition hiding for all systems from Dos+Win3, to Windows 2003, all except Win NT4 which maybe really require NTFS or FAT32(less likely).

Well question is i can use it in the middle already started installation, or i need to start whole installation again? I have found some unattended script here, it seems that it could be possible to replicate the steps manually.. Im only not know if every small step would be saved by installation progress or not.. because it would make it much more complicated. I also struggle to find some GUI regedit compatible with Windows 98 to use it from Live Windows CD, registry they have different structure and and the most of Registry editors are for NT4 or Win2000+. I tired to find some GUI WIndows registry editor for Linux, but it does seems to exist, there is only CMD line one chntpw use like this: sudo chntpw -e /media/mint/WinNT4-System/WINNT/system32/config/system // You need different patch based where you Windows install is located and how that partition is mounted inside Linux and its annoyingly CaseSenSitiVe It works fine for WIndows NT, but not for Win9x, not recognize is structure when i point it into system.dat , or user.dat There are Registry reditors, which are running fine on the live Windows 9x settion like Registry Workshop 2.x, but load registry hive from the other partition seems to be problem. Windows XP inbuild registry editor is not compatible with Win9x hive, or im doing something wrong.

Hi, im trying to install Windows 98 on machine without PS/2 ports, only with serial mouse working, im stuck on computer name screen, where is empty computer name and i have to put some name in it. There is not any USB legacy setting in the bios. I have tried Windows 98 quick install, but disk controller is not found, but stock install is see disk fine. I already reported Quick install bug. https://github.com/oerg866/win98-quickinstall bug - https://github.com/oerg866/win98-quickinstall/issues/41#issuecomment-2912779878 I also now there is unattended install options, but im afraid that it will mess with disk partitioning. Have USB keyboard working in DOS - have tried USBDDOS driver: https://github.com/crazii/USBDDOS , but its not working for second part of the install, only mouse does. So question is can somehow edit some install setup files or half installed registry add insert needed strings like Computer name and later Windows serial Key. Maybe i can just one only part of unattended install script.. Tried to google this problem, im not first one with it, but i had to found right keywords..

Hello, i have tried to research booting from vhd, it could be practical, but so far my results are not great. I expected to find much more articles about it. 1) Windows 7+ BCD - its its working, but its limited It seem to be limited to Windows 7 or maybe Vista. Later Windows 10/11 are probably able to boot Windows 7+ machines, but its not possible to boot Linux from vhd. Problem is also how to create VHD for it: a) Because tutorial are quite long im not sure if possible to install Windows from live Windows session to some VHD. b) People are used to create VHD through some virtualization software, but there is after problem that physical HW is different that real hardware. I managed to connect virtual disc in Windows and use Paragon HW P2P adjust to add real storage drivers to make it bootable, but its commercial products and it seems that from more modern versions P2P adjust from live Windows sessions for other partitions where removed. There is some old 2010 version with P2P adjust for the live Windows session.. Because connecting VHD from WINPE or Linux based boot disk, not working or its complicated. Yeah can install Windows on physical partitions convert it to vhd image and delete original partition, but it needs possiblity of live install or some enhanced OS installer which is able to connect VHD as installer target partition - im not sure if it exist, again Paragon has some OS migration tools and there are some OS migration tools from other companies too - some proven tips for them would be great. Ventoy USB loader, has optimal Windows 7 / 10 /11 plugin too, but egain you have to adjust VHD for real HW boot. Hyper-V machine probably can be booted from Windows 10/11 bootloader. 2) Plop VHD loader its from 2010 - https://www.plop.at/en/vhdloader.html not more updates, it needs FAT32 partition on the same disk from its executed (it cant find vhd on other disks - i have tried it).. im able to run it from Grub2Dos, but i have tried to run NT4 vhd - vhd file is found, but not even reached Windows logo, i will try other OS images later, im not sure if this not dead end. Fat 32 mean that is limited only to max - 4 GB virtual disk, fixed and dynamic disk image sizes are support, but im not sure what will happen when dynamic disk size would try to get bigger than 4GB.. Vmware can split vhd into multiple fixes, but i doubt that is supported by this bootloader. Update: i 1 tested like 10 Pcem (86box) vhds with old oses, but even OS inside virtual disk has to be FAT32.. I often get classic erros like invalid disk or missing operating systems, i only managed to get Win3.11+MS-DOS 6 vhd to get futher than booting message.. i get MS-DOS started, after some config execution error.. so no config commands processed, afte that i got into command line, dir / cd worked, but otherwise wrong data i subdirectories and execution tools like edit failed, win.com failed too.. for some valid command i got invalid command. I have to check it, but it seems that these vhds where FAT16 not FAT32. It seems that very specific vhd disk format version is supported, in project description are not details, only info that dynamic size is suppoted too. Maybe *.vhds are too new for 2010 tool. Im not even sure if there is vhd format downgrade too (i prefer GUI based one). My vhds, where no stored at Win98 FAT 15GB partition, second after 15 NTFS - NT4 partition, on 500 GB Sata disk (in ATA mode in Dell server Bios, i guess that means IDE PATA mode, because disk is visible by Windows 98 CD-Rom command line and Window 98 start up floppy disk. 3) Grub 1 (Grub4dost) / Grub 2 So far im failing to find good tutorial for Grub 1 / Grub 2 vhd booting, i found some supposed success stories, but they often lack some important details. 4) Yeah i know that are bare metal virtualizer as ESX, Unraid, which are using virtual disks, but its something else, that add some vhd boot to existing machine setup - yeah i know i could simply create some Unraid physical disk and use special BIOS / EFI entry to it and kept existing normal booting machine untouched, its not quick or easy to setup how configuration.

Unfiltered log has like 50k of lines, if you are willing to check it, i will upload it. I have tried to check output of these processes, but it seemed like generic installer checks, i did not see anything suspicious in the log.

Thanks. It seems that is locked behind some classic big companies machine support / maintenance fee Paywall not just some MSDN MS partnership or OS licence. IBM / DELL / HP were big enough to sell it, maybe others. Yeah this text is clear: Windows 2000 Datacenter Server — update to SP4 only in conjunction with your OEM Some per vendor mumbo jumbo is needed probably like 1 more key in registry as is typical in these situations. There is dedicated MS Windows 2000 data center page: http://microsoft.com/windows2000/datacenter/default.asp I have tried procmon, first time i got bluescreen, but later i have find its old versions (1.0.0. to 3.0.3 worked) here: https://web.archive.org/web/20071011001855/http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/processmonitor.mspx a they worked, but maybe bluescreen was not related to its version. I at least learned how to better work with its output. filter it.. i expected that it would more clear and it would collect only data per selected per process, but it seems that by default its collecting everything like Filemon and Regmon and its merged together. Here is filter report, i did not find exact call.. by my money are not something in these 2 keys, where are details about OS type: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\ProductOptions HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion Here is filtered procmon log, its from install execution start to click to confirmation error message, i filtered it down to like 150 lines: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ug6frpi7lqcqpfhbh2ll2/SP4-InstallProcMonLog.PML?rlkey=i18n1xdbb0troxqgdooxf2l2t&dl=0 Its interesting that i can install other OS updates fine, just not service packs. It seems that only main advantage of Data Center is more RAM and cpus (i dunno how cores and SMP count for Win 2000..), with PAE (just through adding /pae to boot.ini was needed no hal fiddling) i have 10 GB of RAM.. 2nd highest edition Advanced server should be limited to 8 GB, Datacenter to 32GB or 64 GB, 32GB is mentioned online, 64 GB in IBM manual linked above.. maybe its 64 GB for the whole cluster, im not sure, how it works. In these days, would only make sense to solve this, because some retro computing preservation, to preserve highest possible version. As i wrote install SP4 right away is working, but someone could be interested to check original SP1 version and test and check newer SP, one by one.. and that is not possible.. doubt that someone will still pay some maintenance fee for 20-15 years old machines.. its not just support per platinum Dell account globally.. Other use case when someone could hit this problem is very old server migration to virtual machine. In case of Windows 2000 i found out that there is a lot programs requiring SP4 to work, i mean much more than SP2 / SP3 for Windows XP or SP1 for WIndows 7. Workaround is upgrade server before migration, i guess that nobody would run updated server anyway.. Its sort of like TPM check for Win11..

Yeah i should give it a bit more of effort and make screenshot, i hoped that is known problem I meanwhile i have tried to install clean with custom CD image of Datacenter SP4 from Archive.org it worked fine with original system key.. Luckily when i run SP4 again message is still there, this is exact text: The Service pack 4 (2,3 etc..) not been qualified by your hardware vendor for installation on this copy of Windows 2000 Datacenter Server. Please contact your hardware vendor for additional information on obtaining a Service pack 4 that has been qualified for your system configuration. But i would still like to know there was a problem and if its possible install SP4 somehow, or upgrade / downgrade Windows 2000 version or install SP from live system. Its possible for XP+ I researched a bit more research and it seems that datacenter really was somehow special, because Windows legacy update and update restored both report Datacenter as unsupported.. with note with a link to manually download updates, there is internet wayback machine link to Microsoft page, where i can download sometime, problem is that exact download files aren't archived I also do not understand how PAE is working with Windows 2000, Advanced server and Datacenter are supposed to support PAE. more than 3-4 GB of ram, im stuck at 3.5 GB.. its probably needed to fiddle with HAL files somehow. Because more CPUS and RAM support should be a main Datacenter advantage. Update: It seems that PAE needs to be still enabled manually by boot.ini edit: https://webhostinggeeks.com/howto/how-to-enable-pae-in-x86-32-bit-windows-server-2003-and-2000-to-use-more-than-4gb-ram/#:~:text=To enable PAE in Windows,The Boot. I checked Dell CDs too, there is indeed OS install assist, problem is that it support only raid drives during OS install process are all data on raid deleted.. so i dont not tried it now, maybe later i will try with another empty disk. There are also some Windows 2000 SP4 Dell flavor OEM cds on archive.org, so maybe you needed one of these.. still would be nice to be able to bypass vendor check, i have tried Regmon and Filemon to detect what is checked, but i never get enough skill to be able to filter their output to debug these things..

I got some old company Dell 1950 server for experiments, it came with Windows 2000 Datacenter SP1 installed. As far as i understand Datacenter is some uber special version of Win 2000, it was released with SP1. I have tried to install SP2 / SP3 / SP4, but it always fails, if get message its some about unsupported version. When i run Datacenter cd with newer service pack im getting message: that this vendor HW is not supported. Is there way how to bypass it this check? I tried to google it, but not found anything usable. I never was big friend of server vendor zillion cds images joggling and their OS install assists, but maybe you have to use some utility like it for this. I would understand if i would have same problem with random virtual machine or generic PC, there should be some Dell service tag in the bios and SP1 reinstall run fine from bundled cd, i tried generic version from archive org and its the same, so its not key etc problem. BTW its possible downgrade Windows 2000 server version without reinstall?

Its 16 years i know, i found the last update from 2016, and release from 2011: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/win2kgaming/oldcigarettes-windows-2000-xp-api-wrapper-pack-ocw-t7.html There is mentioned v11, on BlackWingCat side is v10. I was always searched for universal tool to fake selected programs to thing that are running on different Windows version, so far it did not found it, it should be much simpler than adding missing kernel functions etc.. I found only some registry hacks to fool whole OS version, which is quite dangerous. Dos had some faking old MS-DOS version number inbuild too, in like MS-DOS 6+ or so. I would love to fake Windows NT4 to Windows98, because there are lots of programs/games which just refuse to install on NT.. but if you install them on Windows 9x and copy files to Windows NT machine, they are actually running fine. Other solutions of similar problems is just editing to *.msi installers through tool like - https://www.masterpackager.com, to lower required msi installer version or other artificial requirements which could prove as unnecessary.

I hit the same problem with Dell Poweredge 1950 server, no PS/2 ports, no USB settings it the Bios. Could additional USB controller help, which one si the most compatible? Unattended install has small problem, im afraid that they is probably no way how to select partition on Win2000 should be installed.. I have tried also Ventoy USB instead of direct USB install, but on this machine, its allways blue screening, step further. It really looks like some fixable bug, that for F6 is keyboard working fine, but not after Sort of give up way is install Windows 2000 on the other machine or virtual and restore image on the target machine and use some P2P - physical to physical adjusted, in case, when its not booting.. I have the best experience with Paragon tools for P2P.. I checked all of these PS/2 PCI/ PCI-e cards, you look at close, there is everytime some fine print about not supported by BIOS.. and you can find some USB chip on these cards, which means that you need USB driver to make it working.. So its not solution for such problem. I wonder some machines still have COm - serial ports, long time ago we used serial mice.. maybe, maybe someone did some keyboard for serial port, some servers, have keyboard with serials ports.. but i never was familiar with it, if working for bioses etc.. Update: At least SP2 is working with back USB ports, im using Lenovo keyboard, but its probably does not matter, all floppy has to be at the back port, even when F6 phase it working on the front port. I have tried additional PCI-E USB2 controller with MOS chip, but it does not worked.

So earlier version than 4.62 are proven to work on Win98 fine? Or you did not tested them?

I tried much newer 9.xx, 21.xx they are running fine, except drag and drop.

Is therre version of 7Zip where drag and drop is working on NT4? Im used too use it and lot.. to extract files but draging them out of 7zip folder..

Hi, im trying keep my drive letters settings in NT4. I have 1 SCSI disk (4 partitions) and 1 PATA disk (3 partitions). Im using Disk Administrator utility, im use to change drive letter on the fly, but returning back to old settings after reboot. In the past it usually stayed set to right settings, few it broke again, but now its breaking every boot. Now i installed Universal ATA drive, i may cause this problem, but i doubt it. I have tried to use Paragon and Acronis partitions managers too, but its the same. On Windows 2000+ i could change drive letter under registry path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices I found only this: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Disk There are optical drivers only. I have tried to find drivers letter like E: and F: but again i found only optical drivers, maybe its in NT4 settings outside of registry. On Windows 98, i used to use Letter assigner, but its not working on NT and so far i did not find similar utility working on NT4 Some hint, which registry keyword to search to find this settings would be great.

Any idea how to bypass need for reboot to reinstall sound drivers? It would be nice workaround, to same me reboots and i can auto uninstall / install drivers at system start up.. I tried to search for Reboot registry key, i would some with some strange ABCD-EFXX-XXX format set 0 under some Creative Tech path, i set it to 1 but it wasnt right one.

Thanks.

Thanks, i actually searched through Wayback machine, but it not know name of their original web size, i looked correct there wasnt yet suite - all tools collection back in 2005? Still if you have some per OS packs distribute what you can? If not program Sysinternals suite was available and still just not too old version on all freeware download servers. Do i understand correctly that Sysinternals was free pack and Wininternals was for commercial products (i dont need these)?

Has someone whole win9x sysinternals suite filtered for Windows 9x or NT to upload for download? If not afanite its license rules? Because download old versions and make it through all info in this thread would take hours or maybe days? Is somewhere some package of pre 2006 Microsoft acquisition of company?

Is there some FPScounter compatible with Windows NT4, or at least some tool to identify if game is running in early Direct3D or use software DirectDraw rendering? Maybe it could be detected by some Direct3D supporting process. For OpenGL and GLide its usually antialing enough to recognize that 3D is running for early Direct3D like 3 or 5 games im not so sure, because some games looks sort of 3D accelerated. Some games prints which 3D API is used in some ingame setup or have executable per API, but some dont. Also there is not often Readme or other info and info which games are using which api on pcgamingwiki: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_Direct3D_2-7_games is related to full version of games not demos, sometimes 3D API option was added through post release patches. Also some Glide wrapper for NT which are using OpenGL as output would be very nice.

I made Geforce 2 MX working with Lenovo quadro OpenGL drivers after uninstallation of KB891711 KB.. I need more debugging to check where was a problem.

I have tried Geforce 2 MX pci (maybe driver expect AGP only cards, but i doubt it 2D- DirectDraw test are running line) and lots of driver with the same machine same problem.. There are special NT driver with opengl dll included, but it never works.. Some OpenGL are just dummy for NT4. Or there is some problem with creating right key to make OpenGL ICD registry keys, or device creation, there are a lot of stories of failing with it. Maybe some OpenGL developer would know that needs to be done to make it working. Usual error in OpenGL initialization is SetPixelFormat failed.. There are some Nvidia NT4 OpenGL benchmarks on Anandtech so it has to work at least with some cards, somehow: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-kx133-motherboard-roundup,186-18.html

I fixed WIndows 2000 had somewhere deep in my memory that i was using for some time something called - Omega drivers so i tried it at 1st try - *_w2kxp_omega_38252_7.exe, i everything started to work, i tired before i lots of ATI drivers.. Registry entries seems to be the same, so problem is probably elsewhere. These 3rd drivers are always from people actually care, performance is nice and lots of settings as bonus. GLinfo + QUake 2 demo and Vampire Redemption demo, started to work right away.. Vampire has actually nice used drive info - so i that even for Opengl (i maybe Direct3D- but i really doubt it its using Quake 3 engine port) is ati2dvag.dll used, not atiglxx.dll as i suspected. I also found OneGL1 benchmark/test - which showed that before OpenGL worked somehow but probably only through Microsoft driver, so it was very slow. Quake 3 Demo(full game could have a bit better handling) still had problem to start - classic invalid Pixel format error, but i have google how to force different OpenGL.dll: quake3.exe +set r_glDriver "name.dll" // "" - real picture of command not some marker, you have to copy this dll to Quake3 root (it maybe not, but i had it for testing) so i tried 3 usual suspects, atioglx1.dll atioglxx.dll and ati2dvag.dll - atioglx1.dll was winner, who line: quake3.exe +set r_glDriver "atioglx1.dll"

Here drivers package right from cd.. It includes Win98 and Win2000 folders, im not entairy sure if installer does not use some files from them for WinNT4 too. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kfc2bunrfl75y98jscszh/SB0090-Drivers-ProvenBeforeRestart.7z?rlkey=8xdaurug2om1azwj6ze0hj7af&dl=1 // 16 MB