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Unfiltered log has like 50k of lines, if you are willing to check it, i will upload it. I have tried to check output of these processes, but it seemed like generic installer checks, i did not see anything suspicious in the log.

Thanks. It seems that is locked behind some classic big companies machine support / maintenance fee Paywall not just some MSDN MS partnership or OS licence. IBM / DELL / HP were big enough to sell it, maybe others. Yeah this text is clear: Windows 2000 Datacenter Server — update to SP4 only in conjunction with your OEM Some per vendor mumbo jumbo is needed probably like 1 more key in registry as is typical in these situations. There is dedicated MS Windows 2000 data center page: http://microsoft.com/windows2000/datacenter/default.asp I have tried procmon, first time i got bluescreen, but later i have find its old versions (1.0.0. to 3.0.3 worked) here: https://web.archive.org/web/20071011001855/http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/processmonitor.mspx a they worked, but maybe bluescreen was not related to its version. I at least learned how to better work with its output. filter it.. i expected that it would more clear and it would collect only data per selected per process, but it seems that by default its collecting everything like Filemon and Regmon and its merged together. Here is filter report, i did not find exact call.. by my money are not something in these 2 keys, where are details about OS type: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\ProductOptions HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion Here is filtered procmon log, its from install execution start to click to confirmation error message, i filtered it down to like 150 lines: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ug6frpi7lqcqpfhbh2ll2/SP4-InstallProcMonLog.PML?rlkey=i18n1xdbb0troxqgdooxf2l2t&dl=0 Its interesting that i can install other OS updates fine, just not service packs. It seems that only main advantage of Data Center is more RAM and cpus (i dunno how cores and SMP count for Win 2000..), with PAE (just through adding /pae to boot.ini was needed no hal fiddling) i have 10 GB of RAM.. 2nd highest edition Advanced server should be limited to 8 GB, Datacenter to 32GB or 64 GB, 32GB is mentioned online, 64 GB in IBM manual linked above.. maybe its 64 GB for the whole cluster, im not sure, how it works. In these days, would only make sense to solve this, because some retro computing preservation, to preserve highest possible version. As i wrote install SP4 right away is working, but someone could be interested to check original SP1 version and test and check newer SP, one by one.. and that is not possible.. doubt that someone will still pay some maintenance fee for 20-15 years old machines.. its not just support per platinum Dell account globally.. Other use case when someone could hit this problem is very old server migration to virtual machine. In case of Windows 2000 i found out that there is a lot programs requiring SP4 to work, i mean much more than SP2 / SP3 for Windows XP or SP1 for WIndows 7. Workaround is upgrade server before migration, i guess that nobody would run updated server anyway.. Its sort of like TPM check for Win11..

Yeah i should give it a bit more of effort and make screenshot, i hoped that is known problem I meanwhile i have tried to install clean with custom CD image of Datacenter SP4 from Archive.org it worked fine with original system key.. Luckily when i run SP4 again message is still there, this is exact text: The Service pack 4 (2,3 etc..) not been qualified by your hardware vendor for installation on this copy of Windows 2000 Datacenter Server. Please contact your hardware vendor for additional information on obtaining a Service pack 4 that has been qualified for your system configuration. But i would still like to know there was a problem and if its possible install SP4 somehow, or upgrade / downgrade Windows 2000 version or install SP from live system. Its possible for XP+ I researched a bit more research and it seems that datacenter really was somehow special, because Windows legacy update and update restored both report Datacenter as unsupported.. with note with a link to manually download updates, there is internet wayback machine link to Microsoft page, where i can download sometime, problem is that exact download files aren't archived I also do not understand how PAE is working with Windows 2000, Advanced server and Datacenter are supposed to support PAE. more than 3-4 GB of ram, im stuck at 3.5 GB.. its probably needed to fiddle with HAL files somehow. Because more CPUS and RAM support should be a main Datacenter advantage. Update: It seems that PAE needs to be still enabled manually by boot.ini edit: https://webhostinggeeks.com/howto/how-to-enable-pae-in-x86-32-bit-windows-server-2003-and-2000-to-use-more-than-4gb-ram/#:~:text=To enable PAE in Windows,The Boot. I checked Dell CDs too, there is indeed OS install assist, problem is that it support only raid drives during OS install process are all data on raid deleted.. so i dont not tried it now, maybe later i will try with another empty disk. There are also some Windows 2000 SP4 Dell flavor OEM cds on archive.org, so maybe you needed one of these.. still would be nice to be able to bypass vendor check, i have tried Regmon and Filemon to detect what is checked, but i never get enough skill to be able to filter their output to debug these things..

I got some old company Dell 1950 server for experiments, it came with Windows 2000 Datacenter SP1 installed. As far as i understand Datacenter is some uber special version of Win 2000, it was released with SP1. I have tried to install SP2 / SP3 / SP4, but it always fails, if get message its some about unsupported version. When i run Datacenter cd with newer service pack im getting message: that this vendor HW is not supported. Is there way how to bypass it this check? I tried to google it, but not found anything usable. I never was big friend of server vendor zillion cds images joggling and their OS install assists, but maybe you have to use some utility like it for this. I would understand if i would have same problem with random virtual machine or generic PC, there should be some Dell service tag in the bios and SP1 reinstall run fine from bundled cd, i tried generic version from archive org and its the same, so its not key etc problem. BTW its possible downgrade Windows 2000 server version without reinstall?

Its 16 years i know, i found the last update from 2016, and release from 2011: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/win2kgaming/oldcigarettes-windows-2000-xp-api-wrapper-pack-ocw-t7.html There is mentioned v11, on BlackWingCat side is v10. I was always searched for universal tool to fake selected programs to thing that are running on different Windows version, so far it did not found it, it should be much simpler than adding missing kernel functions etc.. I found only some registry hacks to fool whole OS version, which is quite dangerous. Dos had some faking old MS-DOS version number inbuild too, in like MS-DOS 6+ or so. I would love to fake Windows NT4 to Windows98, because there are lots of programs/games which just refuse to install on NT.. but if you install them on Windows 9x and copy files to Windows NT machine, they are actually running fine. Other solutions of similar problems is just editing to *.msi installers through tool like - https://www.masterpackager.com, to lower required msi installer version or other artificial requirements which could prove as unnecessary.

I hit the same problem with Dell Poweredge 1950 server, no PS/2 ports, no USB settings it the Bios. Could additional USB controller help, which one si the most compatible? Unattended install has small problem, im afraid that they is probably no way how to select partition on Win2000 should be installed.. I have tried also Ventoy USB instead of direct USB install, but on this machine, its allways blue screening, step further. It really looks like some fixable bug, that for F6 is keyboard working fine, but not after Sort of give up way is install Windows 2000 on the other machine or virtual and restore image on the target machine and use some P2P - physical to physical adjusted, in case, when its not booting.. I have the best experience with Paragon tools for P2P.. I checked all of these PS/2 PCI/ PCI-e cards, you look at close, there is everytime some fine print about not supported by BIOS.. and you can find some USB chip on these cards, which means that you need USB driver to make it working.. So its not solution for such problem. I wonder some machines still have COm - serial ports, long time ago we used serial mice.. maybe, maybe someone did some keyboard for serial port, some servers, have keyboard with serials ports.. but i never was familiar with it, if working for bioses etc.. Update: At least SP2 is working with back USB ports, im using Lenovo keyboard, but its probably does not matter, all floppy has to be at the back port, even when F6 phase it working on the front port. I have tried additional PCI-E USB2 controller with MOS chip, but it does not worked.

So earlier version than 4.62 are proven to work on Win98 fine? Or you did not tested them?

I tried much newer 9.xx, 21.xx they are running fine, except drag and drop.

Is therre version of 7Zip where drag and drop is working on NT4? Im used too use it and lot.. to extract files but draging them out of 7zip folder..

Hi, im trying keep my drive letters settings in NT4. I have 1 SCSI disk (4 partitions) and 1 PATA disk (3 partitions). Im using Disk Administrator utility, im use to change drive letter on the fly, but returning back to old settings after reboot. In the past it usually stayed set to right settings, few it broke again, but now its breaking every boot. Now i installed Universal ATA drive, i may cause this problem, but i doubt it. I have tried to use Paragon and Acronis partitions managers too, but its the same. On Windows 2000+ i could change drive letter under registry path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices I found only this: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Disk There are optical drivers only. I have tried to find drivers letter like E: and F: but again i found only optical drivers, maybe its in NT4 settings outside of registry. On Windows 98, i used to use Letter assigner, but its not working on NT and so far i did not find similar utility working on NT4 Some hint, which registry keyword to search to find this settings would be great.

Any idea how to bypass need for reboot to reinstall sound drivers? It would be nice workaround, to same me reboots and i can auto uninstall / install drivers at system start up.. I tried to search for Reboot registry key, i would some with some strange ABCD-EFXX-XXX format set 0 under some Creative Tech path, i set it to 1 but it wasnt right one.

Thanks.

Thanks, i actually searched through Wayback machine, but it not know name of their original web size, i looked correct there wasnt yet suite - all tools collection back in 2005? Still if you have some per OS packs distribute what you can? If not program Sysinternals suite was available and still just not too old version on all freeware download servers. Do i understand correctly that Sysinternals was free pack and Wininternals was for commercial products (i dont need these)?

Has someone whole win9x sysinternals suite filtered for Windows 9x or NT to upload for download? If not afanite its license rules? Because download old versions and make it through all info in this thread would take hours or maybe days? Is somewhere some package of pre 2006 Microsoft acquisition of company?

Is there some FPScounter compatible with Windows NT4, or at least some tool to identify if game is running in early Direct3D or use software DirectDraw rendering? Maybe it could be detected by some Direct3D supporting process. For OpenGL and GLide its usually antialing enough to recognize that 3D is running for early Direct3D like 3 or 5 games im not so sure, because some games looks sort of 3D accelerated. Some games prints which 3D API is used in some ingame setup or have executable per API, but some dont. Also there is not often Readme or other info and info which games are using which api on pcgamingwiki: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_Direct3D_2-7_games is related to full version of games not demos, sometimes 3D API option was added through post release patches. Also some Glide wrapper for NT which are using OpenGL as output would be very nice.

I made Geforce 2 MX working with Lenovo quadro OpenGL drivers after uninstallation of KB891711 KB.. I need more debugging to check where was a problem.

I have tried Geforce 2 MX pci (maybe driver expect AGP only cards, but i doubt it 2D- DirectDraw test are running line) and lots of driver with the same machine same problem.. There are special NT driver with opengl dll included, but it never works.. Some OpenGL are just dummy for NT4. Or there is some problem with creating right key to make OpenGL ICD registry keys, or device creation, there are a lot of stories of failing with it. Maybe some OpenGL developer would know that needs to be done to make it working. Usual error in OpenGL initialization is SetPixelFormat failed.. There are some Nvidia NT4 OpenGL benchmarks on Anandtech so it has to work at least with some cards, somehow: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-kx133-motherboard-roundup,186-18.html

I fixed WIndows 2000 had somewhere deep in my memory that i was using for some time something called - Omega drivers so i tried it at 1st try - *_w2kxp_omega_38252_7.exe, i everything started to work, i tired before i lots of ATI drivers.. Registry entries seems to be the same, so problem is probably elsewhere. These 3rd drivers are always from people actually care, performance is nice and lots of settings as bonus. GLinfo + QUake 2 demo and Vampire Redemption demo, started to work right away.. Vampire has actually nice used drive info - so i that even for Opengl (i maybe Direct3D- but i really doubt it its using Quake 3 engine port) is ati2dvag.dll used, not atiglxx.dll as i suspected. I also found OneGL1 benchmark/test - which showed that before OpenGL worked somehow but probably only through Microsoft driver, so it was very slow. Quake 3 Demo(full game could have a bit better handling) still had problem to start - classic invalid Pixel format error, but i have google how to force different OpenGL.dll: quake3.exe +set r_glDriver "name.dll" // "" - real picture of command not some marker, you have to copy this dll to Quake3 root (it maybe not, but i had it for testing) so i tried 3 usual suspects, atioglx1.dll atioglxx.dll and ati2dvag.dll - atioglx1.dll was winner, who line: quake3.exe +set r_glDriver "atioglx1.dll"

Here drivers package right from cd.. It includes Win98 and Win2000 folders, im not entairy sure if installer does not use some files from them for WinNT4 too. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kfc2bunrfl75y98jscszh/SB0090-Drivers-ProvenBeforeRestart.7z?rlkey=8xdaurug2om1azwj6ze0hj7af&dl=1 // 16 MB

I know its 6 years, but i finally tested these more.. These are nice but removing some devices, si not working and i also missing classic HardwareID - i info to ease searching for drivers. I managed to remove drivers through registry in live OS, so it would be nice to add it too On similar topic, i have some Creative Audigy SB090 drivers, which from some reason could not be installed by pointing Multimedia - add Device wizard, something wrong with *.inf file, so only installation through *.exe is working and lots of bloatware is added to machine. i have problem that these drivers working only right after install before rebooting, and not after reboot so i would like to install bare drivers if possible. If remove them reinstall them, its again working only without reboot.. I created thread for it here:

I looked all around the Web and found only a lot of failed stories - yes also one of mine because i have bad memory.. only sucess was someone with ATI FireGL professional card: https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=74707 Win2000 https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=92359 // NT4 https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/opengl-windows-2000-wrong.1066522/#post-18159157 // There is hint how to adjust registry to make Nvidia cards working with Win 2000 https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/opengl-and-radeon-7000.1639557/ https://retro.swarm.cz/nt4-opengl-mini-client-driver-model-matrox-millennium-i-ii-and-ati-rage-ii-pro/ NT4 - There is something like not full ICD driver, called MCD from microsoft its is working with Matrox and ATI Rage II cards https://web.archive.org/web/20001018100724/http://support.atitech.ca/drivers/nt4_opengl_4392.html // ATI article for Rage II about OpenGL https://blenderartists.org/t/does-anyone-have-a-working-ati-opengl-driver-dll/317455/61?page=4 // Aricle for Blender, how someone made it working with backporting / coping old ATI Opengl opengl dll into Blender directory https://bearwindows.zcm.com.au/winnt4.htm?utm_source=chatgpt.com#p3 - There is hint form Bearwindows that some NT hotfix can break Opengl to work Warning: Security Hotfix KB891711 MS05-002: Vulnerability in cursor and icon format handling could allow remote code execution breaks hardware OpenGL support with some cards. To resolve this problem, replace \WINNT\SYSTEM32\WIN32K.SYS dated December, 2004 from KB835732 (or earlier one), or deinstall this hotfix.

I never fully understand how OpenGL is initialized within Windows.. Im trying to make OpenGL working on Radeon 7000 PCI (PCI-X slot, working at 66 Mhz regarding of Astra 32 ) within NT4 (SP6a) and Windows 2000. OpenGL is working fine with Windows98, WinXP, Windows 2008 server. I always install graphics drivers and after i tried some OpenGl game like Quake 2 /3 / Hexen 2 demos and if its working or not. Only other tool which i know to check GLinfo2, if there is nothing or Microsoft driver in info, OpenGL is not working, if there is data related to ATI / NVidia / Intel etc.. driver OpenGL is working. Aida - has also some OpenGL info, but it seems to related to what card is capable same as GPU-Z, but not what is actually related what currently installed driver can do... on Linux there is glxinfo and glxgears for testing. There was some utility called Glsetup distributed with some games like MDK2 but i not found yet, if there are versions for NT4 a Windows 2000, there are versions for Win9x + XP+ On Windows 2000 i have installed - ATI 6.14 driver, AMD web site is giving me 6.2 - its newer than 6.14 (2003-06) - it should be called 6.20 (2006) to remove confusion (but 6.20 is giving me boot bluescreen) , Windows NT4 - 4.3 - nt4-radeon-4-3-4013.exe I now there is some called like OpenGL ICD or minidriver, what is related to registry path and it seems that something has to be set here right.. and some drivers do it and dont.. Clean Windows install with some drivers pack is usually set it right, later driver installs, upgrades seems to have sometimes problem to set it right.. I made working Opengl with Voodooo Banshee and 86Box virtual machine fine, it could work at least with some videocards.. I would understand if OpenGl would not supported within some old OS, but there is allways some atiglxx.dll or atiglx1.dll creally OpenGl related drivers installed in Windows\system or system32.. so it seems that OpenGL should be supported. Sometimes helped me trick, remated atiglxx or nvidia nvopen.. to opengl32.dll and rewrite Windows\system* opengl32.dll but not with this case.. on Windows NT i was getting some dll call errors.. same with rewriting gl file within game folder with that from graphics driver.. because for example that within Hexen 2 install seems to be for Voodoo cards. There is also OpenGL setting as part of Display settings ATI catalyst enchancents, so it strange why these would be added to install if OpenGL would not be installed. Bellow are some screenshots, from working and not working setups.. i have tried manually has some keys to Windows 2000 or Windows NT install, but i never made it working.. and i read that change of settings need reboots to test, so its very time consuming. So question is can i make OpenGL on this card working with Windows NT4 or not. GLinfo, when its not working: WIndows 2000 registry not working: My tries, im not sure about keys data types and values and if it even can work: Windows 98 Opengl working: XP - Opengl is working:

Hi, im trying to make Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum SB0090 on Windows NT4 - SP6 on IBM x235 (socket 604) server converted to retro gaming rig. This machine has only free PCI-X slots so i cant use just some PCI sound card, i have only 2 PCI cards which are able to work in PCI-X slots (slot notches/holes) and Windows 98/ NT4 - SB0090 and SB0570 (this maybe can work within Win98/WinNT - have tried to force some drivers, there is not exclamation mark on devices - but only got noise sounds as at least 1 more user it the same situation ). Card is Working fine in Windows 98/XP/2000 - to Windows 2008. I so far have only find drivers in the form of bundled CD images - their date is - 2001, July 7, expected that there would be updated drivers with fixes, but so far i did not found some. Problem is strange, right after i install drivers, without reboot sound is working fine, but after reboot i there is second part of installation and after that no more sound, even after addition reboot. If uninstall drivers, reboot, install them again, sound is working again. Other problem is that i cant install drivers just by pointing them to drivers directory with inf file (Win NT had not Device manager or Add New Hardware Wizard) from Multimedia control panel, its simply not accept folder with driver as source, its like folder does not contain driver.. In sound device description is strange text Sound Blaster ... (emulated). So only way how i can install driver is use *.exe installer (CTZAPXX.exe). I checked devices - services which are running right after start, i have tried to simulate the same state but stopping device services, or removed devices right from registry to reach the same services state (only 2 are running after install when sounds are working), but sound is still not working even after reboot. There is no error in Event log, because system consider driver as running fine, device is processing data from Control panel Windows sounds, or Winamp, Diablo 2 demo etc as i case of working sound card, bu not real sound is produced. The i try Scitech audio driver installer (snapaudio-winnt-1.1.2-.exe) - recommended by BearWindows, i get only not supported card found message. Im no sure is problem is not connected to Direct X3, afaik NT4 are limited to DirectX3, newer versions (5 or 6) are supported only some unofficials installers. I have to dive yet into it.. When i checked some Dxdiag replacements there was not Sound devices with DX3 - only after i installed new DX hacks - but that threre was Primary sound card driver and SB Audigy 220 emulated, but sound was still not working. As WinNT are not Dos based, i guess some PCI registry hacking (save state right after install and upload it after reboot ) would probably not way how to fix it. I dunno if its matters. but before restart its name of Device in Multimedia control panel - Emu10Kx Audio [2200], but after restart its Sound Blaster audigy [2200] emulated. Pictures from the working state after install before restart, all CT* devices are related to Creative drives (only 2 device "services" are actually running):

Pata without SCSI test its working fine, after readding SCSI: 1) I have tried to remove SCSI and install Windows 98 and PATA worked fine. I returned SCSI controller and it was still fine. After i have tried to boot from Grub2 and it broke again. Next i have tried to install Grub4dos instead of Grub2 and again no error. I also tried to recover the old install disk image, it was still working fine with Grub4dos. Resource range in Windows 98 seems the same for both - working and not working situation: Conclusion: - It seems that MERCURY127 was right and problem was related to Grub2, or some other bootloader leftover, or some other settings problem.. I have checked Grub2 settings, there is possible to install at some Grub2 modules, for specific PATA and SCSI controllers and ad it to grub.cfg starting line, there also insmods to adjust Windows boot options but its only for Linux booting, grub2 Windows booting have not such options.. I also looked in Grub 2 WIndows 98 starting options, but not found anything what could cause it problem, or some additional parameters, it probably not expect that there would be only 1 channel on PATA controller. - i have also used - BootRepair CD (https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/) to restore Grub mutiple times- machine is 32bit only, so i cant some recent version of Boot repair, im not sure if was used some older Grub2, or is used that from Debian 12 (i will check it later) Boot repair sometimes use its own version of Grub2, sometimes it use original Linux one version. Update: Used version of Grub2 is 2.06-13+deb12u1 (so from its name is recent Debian 12 one version, so problem is not outdate Grub2 version from Boot Repair disk) - maybe problem could only disk order - when i boot from SCSI - Grub2 - SCSI disk is first DIsk when i boot from second disk (Win98+NT4) disk disk0 is Pata Adaptec SCSI in Windows 98 working too: 2) Also adaptec 29160 is now starting without code 10 error, if start it without Grub2. Bootsec NT4 start: 2) Bootsec, how to use it, should i copy bootsec.? Should i copy it from Windows XP cd and run it from NT4, or boot from Windows XP boot install cd? What you mean by PM - some partition manager? I have tried different Plop boot loader and Grub4dos/Grub2/Xosl, but again the same error. I only able to start NT4, from Windows 2008 bootloader (BCD hell) or Windows XP/ 2000 bootloader.

I will try full clean reinstall without onboard SCSI tomorrow probably, to be sure there are not some boot loader leftovers. I hope that is there so strict, i renamed topic to include NT4. 1) what is max limit nt4 boot loader from the start of disk, i have installed the last SP6a. So it something else, other error which i saw from other bootloaders is: Disk I/O: error: Status = 00000001 2) I already tried to use Xolt and Plop bootloaders.. and BootICE and Dualboot repair to fix it, all start fine only Win9x (and Xolt works for like every second try for WIndows 98 - boot menu freeze - blinking cursor, no keyboard and now menu timeout working).. I dual boot repair and BootICE have NT5 / NT6 bootloader options, but it never worked. I wonder can just manually rewrite, NTDLR -files to NT4 partitions or i need update MBR code too? If yes what is your proven tool to do it. Maybe its chipset broken, but from SCSI Grub2 bootloader is starting fine from partition at 200 GB or so, even from extended volume. The last thing which i have to try is Grub4Dos bootloader, BootIce could do it too.