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Has anyone noticed that Youtube has officially gone HTML5 as of today or yesterday? On one of my win-98 systems, I can't play youtube videos with FF 2.0.0.20. But on another system - I can. I apparently have flash 10,3,183,86 installed.

When I bring up this page in firefox 2.0.0.20 and Netscape 9.0.0.6: http://www.globemoon.net/iframe-ex.html With firefox I can't see the black box with its own scroll bar that says "C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S !!!! If you can see this page, then your browser supports iFrames." I *can* see that box with Netscape 9.0.0.6. This is my netscape user-agent string, and below that is the firefox user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080219 Firefox/2.0.0.12 Navigator/9.0.0.6 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.8.1.20) Gecko/20081217 Firefox/2.0.0.20 Slightly different version of Gecko - should that / would that make any difference? Now when I bring up this page: http://www.quirksmode.org/iframetest.html I *DO* see "YES" in the text-box immediately to the right of "Iframe:" with firefox, but I don't see the box above that that has "test page in iframe". With netscape, I see the word "Yes" and the box above it. I was thinking that this might have something to do with cross-site or cross-domain security and that perhaps I've disabled iframes in firefox 2.0.0.20 by implimenting some sort of cross-domain security setting or patch. That's the only thing I can think of. Searching on the web for iframe issues with firefox turns up a lot of stuff that must have happened with firefox in 2013 in response to some sort of security issue. Unless I'm not understanding something - it seems to me that iframe functionality was intentionally disabled in some more modern or recent version of firefox (well past version 2) back in 2013. Maybe they brought it back since then - or not. ? Edit: Could this be about disabling scripts inside iframes? The iframe test window on the quirksmode.org page contains a script.

This has been a problem for years, and I'm pretty sure this used to work, and I don't know if I put something in about:config to break it. So when you go to a page like this: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-21/hedge-fund-manager-loses-998-9-months-tells-investors-he-sorry-overzealousness Right after "To Mr. Li's less than sophisticated investors we have a short clip summarizing what just happened:" is an iframe. The code is this: iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/-DT7bX-B1Mg?rel=0" frameborder="0" height="281" width="500" /iframe In firefox 2.0.0.20, I just have a blank line where the youtube video should be. In Netscape 9.0.0.6, the video is there and I can play it just fine. In both of them, in about:config, I have the same 2 lines that contain a "frame" setting of any sort. Browser frames enabled (true), and layout.frames.force_resizability (false). If there is another setting that has anything to do with iframes, then it must not have "frame" in the name. I don't think I have any add-ons that mess with iframes. Any ideas?

> Does it look like the following screenshot (with ? instead > of squares with numbers within)? Yes. It did look like that. > Did/do you have already the font arialuni.TTF? Yes, I already did have that font installed and present in /windows/fonts.

I was able to install SeaMonkey 2.32 but regardless how I have the Kex properties set for seamonkey.exe, it gives "exception c06d007eh in module seamonkey.exe at 0187:0040237c".

It would be nice if there was a single program or system component that could be agreed upon as being the defacto test-case for a successful KernelEx modification, enhancement, or installation on any or all win-98se systems given some minimum requirement (such as CPU type, installed ram, etc). The more sophisticated, advanced or "challenging" this application program is, the better.

SymbolA can be downloaded from here: http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/Symbola.zip After unzipping it, install it using Control Panel - Fonts - File - Add new fonts. After doing that, firefox 2 does render all characters on the w3.org page.

When I view the math arrows page using Firefox 2.0.0.20 or Netscape Navigator 9.0.0.6, a window pops up saying this: ------------------- To properly display the MathML on this page you need to install the following fonts: CMSY10, CMEX10, Math1, Math2, Math 4. For further information see: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/fonts ------------------- The page is then rendered, and it appears correct (no question mark symbols) until column 21E, row B. At that location and down, and for the entire next column (21F) I have ? (question mark symbol). Everything else is identical to the sample, for both FF and Netscape. Viewing that page with IE6, I get asked if I want to save or open the file, I select open, and IE spawns Palemoon 3.6.32 where it displays the same as FF and Netscape except that in place of ? character is something wierd. Opera 12.02 also shows the correct arrows up to column 21e row B, and then just a small box character after that. Going to my control panel, fonts, I can find no fonts that are listed in the message (cmsy, cmex, math1, etc). Searching my drive for any file containing "cmsy10" I find: mathfontcmsy10.properties 5kb 4/15/09 program files\mozilla firefox\res\fonts mathfontcmsy10.properties 5kb 2/19/08 program files\netscape\navigator 9\res\fonts Those files are readable in wordpad. They are not binary files. It looks like these fonts are available as part of this k-meleon GREUpdateTree package: http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/GREUpdateTree

I ran the 4.5.3.1 installer on my home system a few days ago. Seems to be running ok. Here's a question: What is the most advanced or challenging NT-dependent application program or system component that a Win-98se system with Kex can run in a satisfactory way? Is it some particular browser? It is some particular version of flash player? Or Java JRE? Or some particular version of acrobat reader?

I'm sure that MS doesn't feel any need to bury 9x any deeper than it already is. I'm sure that MS feels that it *already has* buried 9x about as deep as it can go at least 8 years ago.Regarding the jump from win-8 to win-10, the best speculation so far (and this comes from someone inside MS) is that there is a lot of software that looks at OS version string and if it sees "9" then it immediately assumes Windows 95 or 98.

The CorelDraw 9 suite is hands down the best graphics package for win-9x/me. Although I will admit that possibly version 10 or 11 is better - and I lament the fact that I didn't think to get my hands on those versions years ago when they were more available. I believe that version 11 will run on 9x - but that's probably the last version.

This pertains to XP-pro 32 bit, SP3. Task Manager shows 15 running processes in total (from all users) when system boots up and desktop is ready. I've run some sort of general purpose install package for a new printer (Samsung C410W) which is connected via ethernet on the local lan. After installing the Samsung software, I bring up start, settings, printers and faxes, right-click on the printer, select properties, which spawns a "Samsung C410 Series Properties" window. I click the "print a test page" button. A new window opens: ------------------------- Samsung C410 series Internet Connection Usage Agreement Samsung software may log user interactions and use your IP address and internet connection to transmt data for software updates, troubleshoting problems and to provide improved customer support. The data transmitted to Samsung shall be used in an anonymous and/or aggregate form and may be transferred to a Samsung entity located overseas. Click the link below to review or change the settings that customizes how your internet connection may be used. ( ) I have reviewed and accept the terms of the agreement [ok] ------------------------- Three web-looking links are visible in the window. Two of them spawn a browser to access web content, the third (click here for setup options) opens another window, allowing me to de-select any of the following: - toublehooting system via web content - samsung product improvement study - smart update Even if all 3 are de-selected, I can't leave the Internet connection usage agreement screen without accepting the terms. I can't close it - I can't even find it running with taskmanager, nor with sys internals process explorer. I refuse to agree to the terms of the agreement, so I don't check the agreement box. Watching task manager when I bring up printer properties and try to print test page shows no change. I see no new process pop up that I can kill. The print spooler says there's a page spooling in the queue, but I can't force it to print. If I try to cancel the job, the print job status changes to "Deleting" and remains stuck in that status. If I stop the print spooler service, the Samsung Internet Connection Usage Agreement window remains on-screen. There are 3 SVCHOST processes running, and I can kill them one at a time (killing one of them will spawn a small window with the title "System Shutdown" but the system remains running as I kill the other SVCHOST processes). Even with the three SVCHOST processes killed, the Samsung permissions window is still there. The system remains in this state for about 30 seconds before it goes to black screen and restarts. So I want to uninstall all this Samsung crapware, but I first want to grab whatever files constitutes the "driver" for this printer and put them somewhere so I can put them back later, and hopefully I won't have to deal with the spyware that Samsung has somehow built into their driver. Any ideas?

And haven't I been saying exactly that?Haven't I been saying that win-9x is invoked from a transient DOS state? How on earth can DOS-era code or functionality be of any use (let alone be REQUIRED) for win-9x to perform it's core functions of supporting Win32 software and 32-bit hardware drivers? You want to run 16-bit DOS-era programs? No problem - Win-9x will create a virtual DOS environment for them - just like most NT versions of windows will. You have only 16-bit drivers for some ancient hardware components? No problem - win-9x might (or will) make use of them (in a way that NT won't or can't) via some sort of DOS layer. That doesn't mean Win-9x is dependant on a dos layer. It means you're running 9x on pathetic hardware. > 9x/ME uses many data tables and variables it inherits from DOS, that is, most > of the DOS data, which remains in use while 9x/ME is running, and which is > returned to DOS control when 9x/ME terminates. The idea or ability to return to the original DOS state after 9x/me terminates is somewhat bogus, because the vast majority of 9x/me use-case situations does not involve returning to this DOS state. When a typical 9x/me computer is turned on, the user expects to go straight into Windows, and when the use-session is ended, the computer is shut down - there is no desire to re-enter the DOS state to perform any tasks or to use the computer in that state. The fact that 9x/me can "remember" the original DOS state and can return to it after terminating windows is hardly something to point to as an indication that DOS forms some sort of crucial layer or foundation *while* 9x is operating.

That link provides not a single piece of information explaining how or why IO.sys plays any role in win-9x operation. Once you get past the hangup that win-9x is invoked from a transient DOS state, all these various attempts to explain how DOS code remains a necessary foundation for win-9x to operate simply falls apart.

In terms of providing core functions (such as screen, disk/file-system, network and keyboard I/O) to the user shell or Win32 applications, how does Win-9x/me rely on some DOS code or layer to provide those functions?

Is the following true? ---------- The architecture of Windows 9x series OS kernel is monolithic. The basic code is considered similar in function to MS-DOS - as a 16/32 bit hybrid, it requires MS-DOS support to operate. ----------- That's from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_Windows_9x After being invoked from a transient 16-bit DOS state, does Win-9x _really_ require some form of DOS running at some level? Even if most of what Win-9x does is via 32-bit API functions and hardware drivers?

Is there a version of uTorrent that supports UDP trackers that runs on win-98 (with Kex)? (would have to be newer than version 1.8.5 I think)

Yea, I guess you're right. I don't see anyone asking for help...

> > Does the installation of Win-98 on an unremarkable old computer qualify as a Windows 9x Member Project? > > I really don't see why it wouldn't. It was my impression that "Member Projects" are efforts and works that could be used by many (or most, or all) win-9x users. Such as KernelEx, various update packages, etc. And that troubleshooting or problem solving or system-specific questions or observations happened in the main forum.

What would be the level of Win-98 functionality / driver availability with this board: http://www.asrock.com/mb/ULi/939SLI32-eSATA2/ Northbridge: ULi M1695 Southbridge: ULi M1697 Audio: Realtek ALC 660 Lan: Realtek RTL8111B And this board: http://www.asrock.com/mb/ULi/939Dual-SATA2/ Northbridge: ULi M1695 Southbridge: ULi M1567 Audio: Realtek 850 Lan: Realtek RTL8201CL

Does the installation of Win-98 on an unremarkable old computer qualify as a Windows 9x Member Project?

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2850890/windows-update-is-broken-on-xp.html ----------- A number of search engine provided fixes did not work for me. What did work, on all three machines, was this: 1. Stop the Automatic Updates service and the Background Intelligent Transfer Service 2. Rename the SoftwareDistribution sub-folder in the C:\Windows folder 3. Start the two services That's the good news. The bad news is that this only works for one go-round with Windows Update. Thus, I had to do this before running Windows Update every time. It wasn't hard to find other reports of the same problem, and this trick has, apparently, not helped everyone. If I hear of a permanent fix, or at least an explanation, I'll update this blog. ------------------

Ah - so I wasn't the only one asking this question: ============ Why is Microsoft updating Windows PCs for a security bug on the server? http://www.computerworld.com/article/2851333/why-is-microsoft-updating-windows-pcs-for-a-security-bug-on-the-server.html The Kerberos vulnerability is only in Windows Server, but Windows PCs are getting extra security fixes When Microsoft released a critical update for multiple versions of Windows Server this month, it also pushed out a fix for several releases of the Windows client OS, including even the technical preview for Windows 10. It was critical to get the patch out for Windows Server: An exploit affecting Windows Server 2008 R2 and earlier versions has already been detected, and Windows Server 2012 and later releases are vulnerable to a related but more difficult attack. But the vulnerability isn't present in the desktop versions of Windows. In Windows Server, the flaw allows attackers to employ the username and password of anyone in an Active Directory domain to get the same system privileges as a domain administrator, using a forged Privilege Attribute Certificate to fool the Kerberos Domain Controller that manages remote access. The bulletin for the patch says there's no security impact for the client versions of Windows. So why did Microsoft also release an update for Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1 and the Windows 10 Technical Preview? It's because although they don't have that specific vulnerability, looking into the Windows source code to understand how the Privilege Attribute Certificate could be forged revealed some older code that Microsoft was no longer satisfied with, a representative for the company told us. That could mean other potential attacks, although they declined to give more details. "The 'hardening' on the client side is the replacement of older code with newer code. In our investigation, although we did not discover a vulnerability on these platforms, we did discover code that needed to be improved in order to meet our current security standards," the representative said. Although Microsoft hasn't said whether Windows XP also had the problem code, it's likely it does given the age of the code involved. As XP is out of support, only companies that are paying for extended support contracts would get an update for it -- another incentive for anyone still using the older OS to upgrade. The update applied to the Windows Server Technical Preview as well, but Microsoft said it doesn't list security impact and severity ratings for previews. "As customers know, beta software is not fully supported and we do not want to cause customer confusion," the representative said. ======================

Some details here: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/70958 ---------- Vulnerable: Microsoft Windows Vista x64 Edition SP2 Microsoft Windows Vista SP2 Microsoft Windows 7 for x64-based Systems SP1 Microsoft Windows 7 for 32-bit Systems SP1 (and other various versions of Windows Server) ----------- From this: https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/MS14-068 --------------- What systems are primarily at risk from the vulnerability? Domain controllers that are configured to act as a Kerberos Key Distribution Center (KDC) are primarily at risk. --------------- So I ask - Can Vista or 7 (any version) act as a domain controller? And be a Kerberos Key distribution Center? I also ask if NT4 server or 2K server would also have this Kerberos vulnerability... ?

I take it that you are indicating the package which can be downloaded from here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=11782Or this direct link: http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/c/a/8cada3d5-e737-4a5d-8c27-e1fbc4c32be7/VB6-KB946235-x86-ENU.exe Which contains several different OS-specific versions of oleaut32.dll (NT4, 2K, Server 2003, XP and Vista). I believe you are indicating that the NT4 version (2.40.4520) is the one (the last one) that works with 9x/ME. The 2k version is 2.40.4532 - and we know it to NOT work with 98? Interestingly, the XP-SP1 version (3.50.5022.0) says this in the comments section: -------- Microsoft OLE 3.50 for Windows NT and Windows 95 Operating Systems ---------- ?