intel chips.. need right mobo for right chip, pain in the neck. AMD chips.. socket A, simple dimple 266FSB socket A, AMD athlon XP 1800, 1900 or 2000 whats ya flava? at least with an athlon chip, you can upgrade to next speed without changing your mother board. also, AMD chips are cheaper and will out perform a pentium chip for much less cash, easier to unlock and overclock too, if your into that. a pc with an AMD athlon XP 1800 will out perform a pentium 4 and cost less. personally i dont see why people pay (lots) more money to get an intel and are more restricted upgrade wise, and get less speed for their money, also DDR ram is much cheaper than RDR ram. go price up a socket A mother board (eg soyo dragon plus) with 512mb DDR ram, and an Athlon XP 1800. now do same for a petium 4 mobo, 2ghz chip, and 512mb RDR ram. compare them, and what would be good is if some of the folks here with both of those proccessors would post thier bench mark screen shots with sysoft sandra, i know elite and BAH could both do that and prove my point. up to you in the end, but i know where my moneys going.. and its not intels marketing campaigns with silly painted men.