Of course, this is to say nothing of the regimes we've toppled, only to replace them with worse cases of civil rights violations (Cuba, Sudan, etc, etc). How do we know that Iraq will be different? We don't. Frankly, and call me a pessimist if you want (which I very well may be), the "situation" in the middle east, which has existed quite literally from the metaphorical (though historically insignificant, as it happened elswhere prior to that) birth of civilization, will never be resolved. Neither side will ever believe what the other has to say, much like our extremely polarized political system. So there, two more cents from someone who knows far too little about politics to really be posting here... EDIT: Um, that would be me...not referring to anyone else...