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herbalist ... decided to check out the standalone flash player you mentioned but I'm not having much luck with the link ... keep getting "Sorry, this page is not available" ... when I Google the "adobe standalone flash player", I seem to be getting links to the browser flash plugin as a "complete standalone installer" ... trying to locate the standalone version for Win 98SE (v9.0.289.0) ... thought I'd see how it plays a flash video. If you have another link for that version, I'd like to hear from you, maybe others are interested also ... thanks again, good to hear from you.

Thanks Foxbat for posting about Fortop FLV player. I have spent some time searching around for a good stand alone flash player (maybe 2 yrs) but the ones I have found always have "extra" baggage or things I don't want or they want to phone home or they are several MBs in size. Just wanted a simple small size player ... I like that player.

submix8c ... thanks for the reply ... I solved my flv problem but I like the web site you supplied for a flash player. That site has all those portable software programs ... I will probably find some useful downloads there ... thanks.

Ok ... I have been using KMPlayer for several years but for some reason it won't play flv files. I used to use VLC Media Player which played everything including flash files. However, after someone mentioned KMPlayer and I tried it for playing DVDs and other files, I liked it more than VLC ... but KMPlayer doesn't play flash files for me. I think someone else also mentioned that awhile back in a post somewhere that they had the same problem. So I have been hunting for a small free standalone flash player ... I downloaded two earlier today ... they were supposed to work with Windows 98SE, actually all Windows but they didn't work with my 98SE setup. I have downloaded others last year but wasn't satisfied with the video quality and such. I thought I'd post for some suggestions from what others might be using, just for flash videos. ... thanks ..... Well, I finally figured out my problem with KMPlayer not playing flv files ... the file itself was bad. I came up with another flv file and KMPlayer played it with no problem. I also installed an older version of VLC Media Player and it wouldn't play that one file also. I had that flv file on my hard drive since early last year to use to test flash players, no wonder none of them ever worked. ... dumb me and a false alarm ... KMPlayer works just fine for everything and probably most of the standalone players I tried also worked. Never gave a thought that the flv file might be bad.

dencorso ... thanks for posting the info on Seagate hard drives and the hard drive info in general. After all these years with Windows 98SE my knowledge in certain areas is limited and I still am learning "new " things about the OS, which includes DOS and such. I certainly know more than I did 10 yrs ago from reading this forum and stumbling across information here and there. I came across that little Verbatim FAT32 tool that allowed me to have that new 500 GB USB drive work with Windows 98SE. I didn't know about the Harware Hangout Storage Media subforum, so I will be spending some time there from now on. Thanks for the info on the Ridgecrop utility ... also, thanks jaclaz for the Fat32Formatter info .... I have downloaded everything to save on a CD for the future, if needed. I also want to add about FreeAgent, since you mentioned it, a backup program was on the Seagate drive so I got rid of it ... I didn't think I really needed the program and I wanted the extra space for storage. thanks ... a good 2011 for all !

Multibooter ... thanks for posting all your information on hard drives. It will probably be of more help to someone in "todays" world. I had previously bought two smaller USB hard drives about 5 yrs ago, both 80 GBs ... all I could afford at the time, anything larger up to 250 GB was really expensive, at that time ... so I settled on the 80 GB size. Always wanted a larger external hard drive, so earlier in the year I saw that Office Max had a Seagate 500 GB USB on sale and I also had a $10 off coupon so I thought I'd grab one .... it did not list Windows 98SE on the box, only 2000 through Vista, if I remember. I had hopes it would work anyway ... tried it out right away when I got got back home and nothing ... Win 98SE didn't "see it" ... of course I didn't understand any of this until I started searching Google and found other people with the same problem. Someone explained the problem in detail and suggested the Swiss Army Knife tool and someone else said they had used the Verbatim FAT32 software tool and was able to use their new hard drive with Win 98SE. So I tried that and Win 98SE was showing me a brand new 500 GB hard drive (Drive E) in just a few minutes. I am not having any problems so far ... I wasn't aware that dencorso has suggested 250GB FAT32 as the maximum partition size or that a Seagate drive might not be a good thing to buy. I thought Seagate was a good make at the time, could have researched all that on Google at the time I guess. The earlier 80 GB drives that I had bought in 2004 and 2005 were really heavy metal (well made) and both had an "on -off" switch, which I like ... the newer drives are much smaller, not heavy and no "on-off" switch but the the extra GBs are so much cheaper. So I have a 500 GB Ext hard drive for some extra storage unless you are saying I will not be able to use all that space for storage since I didn't partition it to 250 GB. Both you and M()zart mention PartitionMagic ... I had heard of it but had never used it and the mention on Google of the little Verbatim FAT32 tool sounded like a quick, easy solution to my problem in getting the new hard drive to work with Windows 98SE ... but all the information posted by you and M()zart will be helpful to others wanting to buy a newer USB external hard drive. I had been looking for almost a year for a larger ext drive but nothing was listed as working with 98SE anymore so I took a gamble on the Seagate drive and that somehow I could make it work. If I hadn't found that Verbatim FAT32 tool then I would have been on this forum asking for help. thanks ...

.... I first posted this information back last March 2010 , thought I would repost it again for any new people that have recently bought a new USB drive that is NTFS and they would like to change it to FAT32. My last post is now 9 pages back into history. I checked to see if Verbatim still supplied the little free software program ... the link in the original post no longer works but I found the program under a new link. Verbatim FAT32 Tool: How to Reformat a Verbatim Hard Drive for Windows Verbatim provides a FAT32 format utility that eliminates the 32 GB partition limitation. http://www.verbatim.com/index/support.php?lang_id=1&cat=9&action=downloads&pid=5395&aid=197 Handy little FAT32 tool ... You don't have to have a Verbatim hard drive since mine was a 500 GB External Seagate drive. You will need an XP computer or some newer OS since the USB hard drive has to be "seen" to be changed. I went to a friend's XP computer and hooked the USB drive up and ran the FAT32 utility. It took about 20 seconds and it was now a USB FAT32 500 GB external hard drive. Tried it on my Win 98SE machine ... showing up as a 500 GB drive as Drive "E" ... it is also backward compatible to USB 1.1 ... I hooked it into a computer that is USB 2.0 (Windows 98SE) and then I hooked it into an older USB 1.1 hub that I still use. Not sure if this tool will work on every external drive, can only speak for the Seagate USB drive.

Paul ... go to the Yahoo Group ... InternetByCellPhone@yahoogroups.com and look in the Files section ... they have older and newer Verizon files there.

... don't know if this will be of any help. I switched over to KMPlayer for DVDs, avi files and such. The last version listed to work with all 9x versions was KMPlayer 2.9.3.1428 ... I am using a newer version with KernelEx installed ... still "experimenting" with everything but seems to be OK so far. Anyway, KMPlayer 2.9.3.1428 might be worth looking at. KMPlayer 2.9.3.1428 Filename: kmp.exe File size: 13.47MB (14,122,018 bytes) Requirements: Windows (All Versions) Languages: en-US License: Freeware Date added: May 7, 2008 http://www.filehippo.com/download_kmplayer/tech/4120/ The KMPlayer is a versatile media player which can cover various types of container format such as VCD, DVD, AVI, MKV, Ogg Theora, OGM, 3GP, MPEG-1/2/4, WMV, RealMedia, and QuickTime among others. It handles a wide range of subtitles and allows you to capture audio, video, and screenshots in many ways. The player provides both internal and external filters with a fully controlled environment in terms of connections to other splitters, decoders, audio/video transform filters and renderers without grappling with the DirectShow merit system. Internal filters are not registered to user's system to keep it from being messed up with system filters. In December 2008 KMPlayer was bought by Pandora.tv, and continues to be made available as freeware. ... maybe not exactly what you are inquiring about.

dencorso ... thanks for the information on those updates. I uninstalled KernelEx and put the updates on in the order that you said, reinstalled KernelEx and all is OK. I never would have figured all that out. ... thanks

I have noticed on my Win 98SE setup that I now have two MS Hotfixes that need to be reinstalled. I have KernelEx 4.5 RC 5 installed. When I run Belarc Advisor it shows that UPD272137 and UPD320798 need to be reinstalled. So I did reinstall UPD272137 and had to reboot ... then a box pops up that KernelEx is no longer working and must be reinstalled after the reboot. I checked Belarc Advisor again and UPD272137 is now OK. So I delete KernelEX , reboot and reinstall KernelEx and the UPD272137 is no longer OK and must be reinstalled. I guess those two updates are affected by this newer version of KernelEx. I didn't notice this problem before with earlier versions of KernelEx. I also went back a few pages on the messages to see if anyone has already talked about these two updates, didn't see anything. Any ideas on this ... may just have to live those two updates being messed up. I noticed this also on my other notebook. thanks ...

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erpdude8 ... yes, I've been using the new Beta for several days now. Everything seems to be working OK. The Spell Check plugin does not work as it does in KM v1.5.4 but that has already been reported ... it works for nobody in the new Beta version. Outside of that, I have had no problems so far. I didn't post anything here about the new Beta version since it seemed that only a few people expressed any interest in K-Meleon before and I figured you and the others probably knew about the new release. I'm following all the reports at the KM forum ... in case you didn't notice ... under the "General" thread, at the very top is a sticky message thread for the 1.6 Beta version. Have you tried it yet? ...

... been doing some searching around for a comparison on Windows Defrag and Norton Speed Disk ... this discussion dates back to 2007 .. some people seem to find the Windows Defrag does a better job than Speed Disk. Norton Speed Disk vs Windows Disk Defragmenter by dualcg - January 3, 2007 9:17 PM PST In Reply to: A Good Habit is Hard To Break: by kingdomofjones I have been battling a problem that Norton Techs don't seem to be able to help with. I run Windows Defrag, and follow up with Speed Disk. Speed disk always increases the amount of fragmentation. In fact, I can go into speed disk, run analyze, read the percentage fragmentation, run optimize, and end up with an increase in the amount of fragmentation. On the other hand, if I run Speed Disk first, Windows defgrag does a more complete job. Any suggestions? --------------------------- by caktus - January 4, 2007 12:27 PM PST In Reply to: Windows defrag vs. Speed Disk by dualcg Given my experiences and what you have mentioned, I would surely (and do) use the Windows tool. As far as Diskeeper And Perfect Disk, other than some unnecessary additional functions where the average home user is concerned, the only difference I have seen is that the Windows tool is much faster. Why spend money when it is best left in your pocket. --------------------------- by ronalds173 - January 9, 2007 5:29 PM PST In Reply to: Windows defrag vs. Speed Disk by dualcg I have noticed the same happening with my computer. I do know that once you defrag with NSW it takes a while before it finally determines how much, if any, is still fragmented. I have also found that I can sometimes get much better results by defraging twice consecutively with either Windows XP or NSW. My hard drive is formatted into two drives and, lately I have noticed that my second hard drive is becoming fragmented in a very short period of time. I have no idea why? I guess it doesn't really clear anything up ... I mentioned before that I use the ME Defrag with Windows 98SE and then I run Crackup to check on how much my HD is fragmented to know when to defrag again. Found this interesting article about different defrag software ... Defragmenting software to choose from http://www.finestdaily.com/how-to/defragmenting-software-to-choose-from.html ...

I am using ver 2.36.1233. That was the last working version that was listed for Win 9x. I don't beleive you have to have KernelEx installed since it listed 9x and all the other Window platforms. The new 3x version no longer list 9x as working ... "Runs on Microsoft Windows 7, Vista, XP and 2000. Including both 32-bit and 64-bit versions." Whether the new 3x version will work with KernelEx installed, I don't know. I have KernelEx (latest) installed but I have decided to stop with the last 2.36.1233 version. Perhaps someone will verify that the new CCleaner 3x version will work with KernelEx installed, although I think I remember someone at the KernelEx thread saying it didn't work, not 100% sure. FileHippo ... CCleaner download ... ver 2.36.1233 on the right side. http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/

herbalist ... thanks for the mention of TestRun ... I never heard of it, I've downloaded a copy. Always interested in registry backup programs. thanks.

I'm not sure how to tell what chip set I might have but I did a search on Google and it's probably the Marvel set. I actually have the WG511T from several years back. Just wanted a spare card or two for the future. I have been using the WG511v2 steady for about a month and it's been working great. I would have problems sometimes with the WG511T connecting but the WG511v2 card has been better on that score. It seems to pick up the same number of Wi-Fi spots as the WG511T card but I like the way the WG511v2 connects. It takes a few seconds longer but it seems to be a nearly 100% success for me. It also goes into the PCMCIA slot better than the WG511T. Sometimes the WG511T just didn't seem to sit right in the slot. Well, the extra cards weren't very expensive and I wanted some spares but at a cheap price. Not many WG511T cards for sale at Amazon anymore, if I remember. Thanks for the info on the different cards. I will try to find out what chip set is in the cards I bought. ...

Well, I'm going to throw my 2 cents into all this, and that's all it's worth! I tried VoptXP v7.22 and it seemed OK for Windows 98SE. I use the ME Defrag on my 98SE systems which works very fast as jaclaz mentioned earlier about the ME Defrag being better for 98SE. I also use an old program called EndItAll to shut down most all running programs while Scandisk and Defrag run on my notebook. This is just out of left field ... not having much much info on VoptXP v7.22 since it is so old ... perhaps this is something it does also ... shut some running programs down so it can defrag the hard drive. You did say everything seemed OK after VoptXP has finished. All was well. Like I said ... just my 2 cents. I will continue to work with it some more. I did try something ... VoptXP seemed to be going slow but doing it's job so I stopped it ... went to the Win 98SE (ME) Defrag and it went fast through it's work. Went back to VoptXP and started it, 2 seconds it was done, nothing to defrag ... so it was apparently satisfied that the hard drive was already completely defragged by the Windows ME Defrag. Not much to go on but I have always thought the ME Defrag in Windows 98SE was acceptable, definitely much faster. However, I will try other defrag systems if they are mentioned in this thread. ...

Fredledingue ... understand, I didn't pick up exactly what you were saying.

Fredledingue ... I have been following your message at the KM forum ... there are a couple posts there since you were last there, one is asking you a question ... maybe you read them. Now as to adding plugins in KM ... it is very simple, as I mentioned in an earlier post. Download the KM Extensions Manager and in 2 seconds you can add a plugin. The program does it all ... of course you can add plugins manually which isn't too difficult but does take more than 2 or 3 seconds ... maybe 30 seconds. Well anyway, the KM Extension Manager for 9x will work in KM 1.5.4 or KM 1.6. Once you add the KM Extensions Manager, you will have a link under the Help tab to all the extensions (plugins) that you want. Couldn't be easier. HTH KM Extension Page: http://kmext.sourceforge.net/ ... you should see the link to the KM Extensions Manager ... 9x and NT versions. I download the plugins I want and save them to a folder and then when I use the KM Ex Manager, I just point it to that folder and the plugin is added. When you install the Extension Manager you should then see a little green icon in the above KM toolbar ... it looks like a green puzzle piece to me. You will also see under Tools, at the very bottom, Extension Manager. Perhaps Firefox plugins are also this way, I don't know but the KM plugins are 7zip and the KM Ext Manager will unzip and install the plugin in a matter of seconds. I usually install my plugins offline with only one KM web page open. Don't know if plugins can or should be installed while a person is online. Seems to me offline would be better doing that.

Multibooter ... your very welcome. As I mentioned earlier, I started using K-Meleon last Oct ... never saw much mentioned about it here in the forum so I thought no more about it till September (2010) when I was able to get the newer KM 1.6 working with Windows 98SE. I just thought I should make mention of it, in case some others might want to experiment with the newer 1.6 version or just try KM 1.5.4. It took me maybe 6 months to "fine tune" K-Meleon to my liking. As I also mentioned earlier, the only problem I have had with KM 1.5.4 (and it's very rare), at a few web sites a box dealing with JavaScript will pop up saying I think (haven't seen the box for awhile) scripts or page is loading slow and then you have to hit STOP or CONTINUE ... but all my pages mostly load very fast with KM v1.5.4 ... KM v1.6 is supposed to handle JavaScript much better and when I go to those same web pages (only 2 or 3 pages that I've run into) with KM 1.6 there is no box popping up. Of course a person can just turn JavaScript off in Tools / Privacy but with some web sites, I have to have JavaScript on. I have never used Firefox but I have read at the KM forum that KM is similar to Firefox but faster. Many Firefox users have switched to K-Meleon ... some call it the "sister browser" of Firefox ... I guess many things are similar. Now I missed this news from Oct 27th at the KM forum, just saw it a few minutes ago ... desga2, whose preBeta 1.6 version I talk about in this thread, has announced a Beta version is due out anytime. From KM forum: K-Meleon 1.6 Beta is coming. Posted by: desga2 Date: October 27, 2010 02:53AM Possibly I can release K-Meleon Beta very soon, this weekend or next week. I'm trying to build the web default language preference panel: http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?1,110180 I will release K-Meleon 1.6 Beta when I finished this implementation. Although you can't see us, we are working in the shadow. Be patient my friends. ---------------------------------------- So that's a new development. duffy98

Fredledingue ... saw your post. I see there are a couple replies but no help since they are not having the same problem. I also tried both KM versions at Yahoo Finance and had no problems like you are experiencing. I'm always at Yahoo Finance and never had any problems there. Perhaps something will turn up or it may be something on your computer but the big question ... what? I sure hope you can get it all squared away. Yes cure, others at the KM forum have commented about updating the web site homepage so maybe that's something for the future.

erpude8 ... yes, KM v1.6 preBeta must have WinXP SP2 compatability ... that's what siria told me to do at the KM forum ... siria post: "My KM1.6 is set to XP-SP2. Remember that if moving the exe elsewhere, the compatibility is forgotten and must be set again..." but if Win2000 also works then that's good to know. As I said before, I'm very happy so far with KM 1.5.4 and the KM 1.6 preBeta running on my machine. No problem about telling me about KM not being Beta ... I went back and corrected all my posts to add "pre". May have missed a few. In my mind it was Beta until you pointed that out. Yes Fredledingue, that's what I like about configuring and setting up KM ... fairly easy. I did have to get help on a few things. Have you installed the KM Extentions Manager to add plugins. They have "doctored" or "changed" the flash dlls to work with downloading videos ... there are versions for 9x and NT. Also, one thing I missed was when you right click on a link you see "Copy Link URL" but I missed not being able to just copy the link name to use as a folder label, like you can in IE6. Someone at the forum asked about that and there was an easy fix for that ... I will put it here, in case you would also like that option. You would go into Edit / Configuration / Menus ... then add: !LinkCopy{ &Copy=ID_EDIT_COPY|ID_COPY_LINK_LOCATION } .... it was awhile before I learned about that ... one of the things I wasn't happy about that the KM browser didn't have until I found out how to add it. Anyway, I'm sorry that KM is crashing with that one page or web site. Go over to the KM forum and post your problem ... explain everything and put the link there to that page ... I'm sure siria, disrupted, guenter or someone will try to help you and maybe get things figured out. They are like the people in this forum, always trying to help and solve any problems. I had a problem with a Windows 98SE dll ... I had downloaded a Swedish version of kernel32 but didn't know it ... hard to tell whether a dll is English or another language, if it's not labeled. ... disrupted came up with the reason for my problem since it happened to him when he downloaded a Spanish dll and didn't know it till he started seeing Spanish at places in his OS. Anyway, I'd give the KM forum a shot. Maybe that might be a problem that the KM people need to know about. I know a few people have posted problems with some sites but I didn't really follow it too much. All the sites I go to seem to work OK for now. Don't give up ... you will learn more each week. I've been with KM since last Oct and impressed with everything so far. I would think KM v1.5.4 would be the one to work with since it is the last stable version out for Windows 98SE or 9x ... the KM 1.6 version is just something to "experiment" with and see how far you might actually go with Windows 98SE. I guess a lot depends on how someone has their Windows 98SE machine set up. I never added Revolutions Pack 9.6 to any of my notebooks but I have all of MDGx's updates on all my notebooks, KernelEx, The Proxomitron, ZoneAlarm 4.5.594 and other stuff ... but maybe others will have more software running or newer versions and may have a conflict with K-Meleon. Hard to say that what works on one machine will work exactly the same on another. I will say that KernelEx really is one great program for us 9x users ... sure helps using an older OS. I do intend to experiment with Revolutions Pack 9.6 one of these days to check it out.

Yes, there is a desga2 preBeta but it is very hard to find, it isn't at the usual KM download page or wasn't in September when I was asking questions about KM v1.6 ... siria from the KM forum posted the link for me. The preBeta version is by a person from Spain (maybe) and seems to be his own project at this point, just not completely sure. I guess I left the "pre" off my other postings, I forgot it was preBeta but it does work with Windows 98SE very well for some people, including myself. My knowledge on all this is limited but more than I had a month ago. This version would be the newer version to use with more bug fixes and enhancements. K-Meleon v1.5.4 still works OK for a fast browser and should be stable. ------------------------ Posted by: Matt Date: September 20, 2010 08:52PM duffy, preBeta (alias cp4) is currently the latest release. It has preferences panel fixed and some nice new features. Good luck with testing preBeta under win98. ------------------------ Re: 1.6a4 Preferences panel. Posted by: desga2 Date: August 29, 2010 02:53AM Download preBeta (alias cp4) {Mirror} Please use a fresh installation, not update previous cp versions. Changes since last cp3 uploaded: + Support full zoom and default zoom (zoom.defaultPercent) Preferences (F2) -> Page Display, and replaced code in zoom.kmm + Others little fixes and minor implementations. Dorian is working with this other features: * @SHistory replaced to history() in menus, but not work, crash K-Meleon at startup. Thanks for test and report. http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?2,109196,110032#msg-110032 Someone at the KM forum did post this after using the "pre" Beta ... he is a contributor to KM ... Posted by: SoerenB Date: August 30, 2010 10:31PM Hi, all, as far as I'm concerned, this could safely be called a beta1 and go to the sourceforge download pages now. Cheers SoerenB ------------------------ This post from siria got my interest to experiment with the newer KM version. Posted by: siria Date: September 17, 2010 01:58AM Nice links danny Must say I'm rather happy about the current development version: http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?2,109196,page=2 desga2 Download preBeta (alias cp4) There are still some minor issues, but considering that gecko1.9 is not supposed to run on win98 at all, it's running already very, very nicely on mine. And those 'issues' seem to be rather related to the beta-state than to my good ol' trusty win98se system. --------------------------- Hope this helps some ... sorry about the preBeta mixup. ... just to add this ... I am happy using KM v1.5.4 but I just wanted to see if the newer 1.6 version could work with Windows 98SE on my machine. I asked that question very early in 2010 at the KM forum and got a "no". It wasn't supposed to work with 9x at all. So I thought nothing more of it until September. Decided to ask the same question again but this time I still got a "no" but also a "maybe yes". Then a person named siria posted saying they were using the current desga2 cp4 preBeta version with Windows 98SE and KernelEx installed. So I just wanted to see where things might go for me. Everything seems to be working for now and I have both KM versions on one notebook to go back and forth with. One day when the 1.6 version is "final" then if all is still OK on my notebook, I will probably just use the one K-Meleon version. If you do have KM v1.5.4 already set up and you are using the Klassic skin and are trying out KM v1.6 then you can just delete "toolbars.cfg" in the v1.6 Klassic skin folder and replace it with the "toolbars.cfg" from v1.5.4. Should look the same with all your settings from v1.5.4. That will save some time ... I'm sure any KM skin can be transferred that way ... I just happen to like the Klassic skin.

Fredledingue ... don't give up yet. Why don't you go over to the K-Meleon forum and post the problems you are having with KM v1.5.4 ... you don't have to be a member there to post or you can join in less than 30 seconds. Anyway, I was using the old KernelEx Final 2 version with KM 1.5.4, however I don't think you need KernelEx with v1.5.4 but I'm not sure, you could ask that at the KM forum ... but to use the newer KM v1.6 preBeta with Windows 98SE you must have the latest KernelEx version installed. I think the v1.6 project is by someone from Spain, not 100% sure about that. Ask for help in the "General" forum ... you will probably get some ideas, they are very friendly there and try to help everyone. I was ready to give up on being able to use the new KM v1.6 with Win 98SE ... had one problem here, one problem there but one by one with the help of a person named siria, I got v1.6 working. I have both KM v1.5.4 and v1.6 on my notebook and everything is running OK ... 100%. Yes, I did have to get help for a few settings ... I like the Klassic skin folder (in the Skins folder)... it's in both KM versions ... it's close to the IE 6 look, if you like IE 6 ... and if you like lighthouses ... I asked for some help in finding a lighthouse throbber to put into K-Meleon. I think two weeks must have went by and finally a person named disrupted offered to make one (always there posting or helping with plugins), just post a picture of what I had in mind he posted ... I like the famous one at York, Maine. He had it done in no time and it looks great ... going around in the upper right corner where the KM dragon breathing fire or IE 6 revolving globe would be. That lighthouse is fantastic, only seconds to change in the Klassic folder ... with the KM Extensions Manager (for 9x) ... there are two for NT and 9x, you can add any plugin you want in seconds. I started using KM last Oct (2009) and never use IE 6 anymore ... I keep IE 6 on my notebooks and updated with MDGx's updates ... but only in case I might need it. I don't know if you really need KernelEx with KM v1.5.4 since they have a separate KM 9x download but there is no 9x download for v1.6, since Win 98SE wasn't supposed to work with the newer v1.6. ... that's where the new (latest) KernelEx comes in ... use XP Sp2 compatability and KM v1.6 runs on Win 98SE. The Spell Check plugin is great ... as I type this message, it checks every word. Anyway, take a few minutes and post the problems you are having at the KM General forum ... may just be some settings or something ... believe me, when I first started using KM there were several things I had to get help on ... mostly settings and now I have everything pretty well tweaked or set the way I want the browser to work. I was able to take the newer User Agents in the KM 1.6 version and replace the older User Agents in the KM 1.5.4 version. Didn't know how to do that a few months ago ... figured that one out on my own ... it's a learning process but you end up with a very fast browser set up the way "you" want it set up. I would say to work with KM v1.5.4 first, get familiar with it, get everything set up the way you want it and then maybe experiment with v1.6, if you want. Most of the settings are in Preferences but there are a few other things that you made need help with as you progress. HTH ... ... just wanted to add, I see you have a post about javascripts ... KM v1.5.4 sometimes does have a problem with javascripts at certain web sites but a little box will pop up asking to either "stop" or "continue" ... I think, I don't see it too often but KM v1.6 is supposed to handle javascripts much better. However, did you notice in KM 1.5.4 under the Tools tab (top toolbar) if you click on Privacy you turn off a whole bunch of stuff including javascripts ... there are 11 items there that can be turned off and on in a second. K-Meleon Forum ... http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/