This in response to Herbalist - post 159 ... thanks for mentioning System Safety Monitor v2.0.8.583 . I have never heard of this program but it's a really nice program to have running on a computer ... at least I think so ... I have Win Patrol always on watching for some changes but this goes deeper, keeping an eye on anything that starts up anywhere to give a person a "heads up" that something is going on. ... I did try the newer version 585. ... terrible ... got the BSOD and my computer completely froze up ... the 583 version works just great for Windows 98SE. I guess this will be the "last version" for Win 98SE. -------------------------------------------------- ... from post 159: I'm using version 2.0.8.583 of System Safety Monitor. Very stable on 98 thru XP. Haven't had the time to test their latest one, 585. The last time I tried 584, it had major problems (BSODs). Don't know if it's been fixed. With Proxomitron, version 45J is the last and the one most people use. The filter sets that come with it aren't bad. There's several other filter sets available, some still actively maintained. More on them here. Rick --------------------------------------------------- thanks, duffy98