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The low offset is checksum in PE header, it's not interesting. I already disassembled the part of code but as Dencorso told, it needs wider scope to get understand what's happening. Here's briefly described what is hal.dll patch about (I don't know if it's releated to chinese patch, probably no)

BTW I compared results of both XP64G 2.0 and 2.1 and it does the same patching job, only 2.1 adds usb*.sys drivers (it contains sp3.cab ~11MB so this is the reason why it inflated so big). Ver 2.1 can be also run standalone (the small exe) without usb*.sys drivers and then you can decide to patch the drivers yourself.

Hi, I'm also interested in patching WinXP PAE. Not because of a deficit of memory (my MB with initel P31 cannot install >4GB anyway) but more just because curiosity. I was, till now, in belive that only Vista/7-32b can be easily unlocked and XP is missing the necessary PAE code. 1st I found a thread on overclock.net and then links here and to China sites. The patch was there probably since 2011! So I did some testings on 2 machines: home: C2D E8600, 4GB RAM, Nvidia 7900GT 256MB, RTL8111 NIC, SB Audigy, FlyDVB Duo PCI, WinXP SP3 CZ, most up to date work: core i7 750, 8GB RAM, Nvidia GF210 512MB, RTL8111 NIC, RT HD Audio, WinXP SP3 CZ, most up to date Tested patches: scdeny XP64G 2.1, Dencorso manual search & replace parch of kernel & hal, patched english and chinese kernel & hal from overclock.net I was a bit suspicios about running chinese XP64G patch so I made MD5 sum of all windows files but none was modified by patch itself. It just create copy of kernel and hal files, patch them and add new boot entry so it's noninvasive and clean. I also used latest usb*.sys drivers from Win2k3 server as suggested. Results: in all cases I got working PAE in meaning of visible full 4 resp. 8GB on both machines. At home machine I got a crash (imediate reboot) one time when I launched BlazeDVB-T software for digital tuner. It was with XP64G patch. But I cannot more reproduce this bug. I use the patch 1 week and no further problems. On machine at work I tried to fill up all 8GB and even more to beinig swapping but it withstand the load. I also measured 2D gfx performance with Tom2D benchmark but dind't find significant diffs. Even curiusly with PAE I got slightly higher GDI score than in standard mode. Here are some screens http://rayer.g6.cz/1tmp/xppae/ I read that the patch may cause BSODs when using unpatched usb drivers but I didn't encounter this problem. I tried copy data to usb flash before I overwrite usb*.sys drivers. Also realtek NIC driver was blamed as source of BSOD but I didn't get any (I used older version from 2009, now upgraded to 2014 - the driver is claimed to be common with Win2k3 so I would expect it's PAE proof). But I don't run any server with heavy load and many connections. Just common browsing and file downloads - no problem. I also read about possibility of use hal.dll from XP SP1. I grab the correct one, unpatched, but it cause immediate reboot when I tried to load it with patched kernel. Does anybody proved some different behavior between Dencorso and scdeny XP64G patch? It patches different bytes. Here's my diff: Comparing files: NTKRNLPA.EXE <-> ntkl64g.exeFFC ERROR at offset 312 (138h): 17h <-> 16hFFC ERROR at offset 313 (139h): 34h <-> 33h (4 <-> 3)FFC ERROR at offset 1437466 (15EF1Ah): 75h <-> 74h (u <-> t)FFC ERROR at offset 1784401 (1B3A51h): 75h <-> 74h (u <-> t)FFC found 4 ERRORSComparing files: HAL.DLL <-> hal64g.dllFFC ERROR at offset 320 (140h): E7h <-> A7h (š <-> ž)FFC ERROR at offset 321 (141h): F2h <-> CBh (? <-> -)FFC ERROR at offset 96275 (17813h): 74h <-> EBh (t <-> U)FFC ERROR at offset 122111 (1DCFFh): 10h <-> 30hFFC ERROR at offset 122113 (1DD01h): 00h <-> FFhFFC ERROR at offset 122114 (1DD02h): 00h <-> FFhFFC ERROR at offset 122115 (1DD03h): 00h <-> FFhFFC ERROR at offset 122116 (1DD04h): 01h <-> FFhFFC ERROR at offset 122124 (1DD0Ch): 40h <-> 00hFFC ERROR at offset 122125 (1DD0Dh): 00h <-> 40hFFC ERROR at offset 122131 (1DD13h): 01h <-> 03hFFC found 11 ERRORS I'm not sure what this patch on hal.dll really do - if it forces all (even PAE capable) drivers to use DMA doublebuffer to keep safe? I continue with testing having it as a default boot setup and report if some BSOD occur.

> jaclaz I checked this and steering is enabled (IRQ tables loaded by ACPI). But IRQ is not problem and can be changed. > TmEE Thanks, I modified it this way, deleted from dev mgr and let it redetect but any chage. I still cannot set different I/O than standard IDE. I quickly checked PCI registers and saw some differences of setting BARs and maybe something else under XP vs 98. I will make a simple tool to dump and reload all PCI regs and try to set them before boot but maybe win98 will change it anyway...

No, I cannot replicate it under Win98. There is only limited set of configurations and I cannot see the same IO address range as I can see under XP. IRQ is not a problem, I can assign IRQ5 that is free (LPT use IRQ7). Maybe... I read that ISA cards has configurable IO address range 0000-3FF and PCI 0000-FFFF, maybe Win98 treats the pcmcia/cardbus bridge as ISA device even if it is PCI and don't allow the high IO FFE0-FFEF but why? I'm not much familiar with INF files, could you help me to which section should I add the IO address range? When CF card was first plugged it detected standard IDE/ESDI controller and it found a driver in windows/inf/mshdc.inf - so you mean this file should be modified... And I got some idea: I can dump PCI configuration registers of pcmcia bridge under XP and I can set them under Win98 or under DOS just before Win98 boots. I have some bare datasheet of the bridge but there's no description of registers. As a minimum I can check if they are same or different. But I think it may have another configuration regs in IO or MMIO space...

Thanks, but drivers package you linked doesn't support OZ6933, only older OZ68xx. Later I found newer driver: O2Micro cardbus controller driver V04.18.01 that contains also VXD file: 25993 Apr 18 2001 cb418ali.w98 25993 Apr 18 2001 cbsso2.vxd 7392 May 14 2001 o2mcbse.cat 6137 Apr 30 2001 o2mcbse.inf I clean up registry from older drivers and intalled this new version but same result. I know that Compact Flash can work in 2 modes: IDE/ATA and PC Card (PCMCIA). This mode is selected by one CF pin that is probably manipulated by PCMCIA slot bridge. Maybe WinXP uses it in PCMCIA mode that doesn't require conflicting standard IDE IO address and under Win9x it for some reason use ATA mode and I cannot force it to flip but not sure... EDIT: Here are screenshots from device manager - Win98SE: And WinXP (here it works out of the box, no drivers needed):

Hi, I upgraded my NTB to slightly newer model from N600c to N620c and I have also Win98SE there. Windows redetected all HW and I installed all necessary drivers. Everything works except PCMCIA problem with CF card to PCMCIA adapter. Old NTB use PCMCIA controller from TI, N620 has O2Micro OZ6933. I even found "drivers" resp. just an INF file for this controller and installed it. I have no problem with PCMCIA WiFi card, it works fine but when I push there a CF adapter I get BSOD. After I pressed key I can back to windows that leaved alive little bit. I went to device manager and see the problem. The CF card was detected under disk controllers as a standard IDE and there was warning about resources conflict. So I went to resources card and see that it uses standatd IDE port IO address 170-177 and 376-377 and IRQ0. I disabled the automatic configuration and explore 13 available settings but every of them was in conflict. Mostly because of 170-177 and 1F0-1F7 are used by my onboard IDE (HDD on pri & DVD on sec. channel). There was also configuration that uses only IO 0000-000F that was in conflict with DMA controller and other one that uses only memory range 00000000-000007FF that was in conflict with ACPI BIOS (this is IVT). So there was no chance to select non-conflicting option. This is why it's called plug & pray... Under WinXP it works fine and when I looked at resources the CF card was assigned to only some high IO addres like FC00 or something like this, no IRQ required, no IDE port conflict... Just for curiosity I tried to disable my secondary IDE channel to free resources for CF card. It didn't BSOD when I pushed card in and even it beeped like it did on old NTB but I didn't get assigned a drive letter. I tried different CF cards but no result. Last I disabled this standard IDE to prevent BSOD and reenabled secondary onboard IDE for DVD. BIOS doesn't offer any options for pnp & resources. Did someone else have this issue and solved it? On N620c or similar NTB with similar PCMCIA controller?

I tried VLC 2.1.2 with kex (upgrade from 2.0.5) few days ago but when I click file menu it crashes while 2.0.5 didn't (but drag&drop a file seems to work) so I reverted back.

Yes I limited to 64MB... I moved my installation too instead of clean instal. About 4 or 5 years ago I installed on Asus intel 945/ICH7 then moved to P31/ICH7 and now I was trying to move to B75... I also moved Windows NT 4.0 - they are portable very well. I used even older install made on intel BX440, installed some drivers and still working. It's probably advantage of limited plug&pray, no ACPI etc... Cool, I saw you made 64bit api and multicore support. I just tried the demo but didn't worked for me (C2D E8500), just display "No Available Cores" of course I had installed DEMOCORE.VXD and added in system.ini and rebooted. I would like to know who want to develop some heavy computation using SMP on windows98 now but it's cool as tech. demonstration of possibilities. AFAIK Japheth or someone else was experimenting with 64b long mode under DOS but nobody used it in some app yet... Yes this is good idea. Win98 seems to be portable enough. I'm not sure if there's no problem with changing APM/ACPI HAL (could I call it HAL? You kno similar problem in 2k/XP..) ...I remember I was able to change from APM to ACPI, it redetected and installed devices but power button didn't worked. So making clean install on some generic HW like in som virtual machine and ther distrubute it to target PC and let system redetect all HW. Yes it seems to be only viable way...

I was also thinking about this 2-VGA solution. I vaguely remember that Win98 should support more than 1 VGA (on just only monitors?)... Would be possible to use secondary PCI VGA without switching it in BIOS? It would be anoying to go to setup before boot, maybe it could be reconfigured by writting to some chipset/vga PCI registers before win98 will boot...

>SInce you had a problem with HIMEMX, use HIMEM. I tried too, used himex for limiting XMS to 512M, I also limided by maxphyspage in system.ini on installed system but no effect. >DO NOT USE AHCI, it will crash. Of course, I use IDE mode. >Go into Safe Mode, remove ALL Drivers, reboot into normal mode and redetect Drivers. I tried to remove many system drivers that I guessed may cause problem but there was many entries, some doubled and I didn't have much time so I didn't clear it all an unable start in normal mode. Does setup.exe work on your system too or you installed on other PC/VM ? It's positive that it runs on some UEFI mobos, maybe it depend on how they take care about compatability module...

Hi, I had a chance to test quite new mobo Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3V (for my colleague's parents) with UEFI for 2 days. CPU is intel Pentium G860 Sandybridge, chipset (PCH) intel B75 and 4GB RAM. It has integrated VGA - intel HD gfx in CPU core with configurable VRAM size (par of system RAM - I allocated 256MB). It has also one LPT, COM and PS/2 port. I just done some quick tests using my utils to see how well it works under DOS. Logs are here. You can look at new UEFI SETUP interface. It run in gfx mode and use mouse. http://rayer.g6.cz/1tmp/GA-B75M-D3V/SETUP/. There are some legacy settings like SATA IDE mode vs AHCI, emulation of port 60/64 for USB KBD, mouse emulation, loading ROM and UEFI ROM modules from peripherals, setting of LPT mode, address and IRQ. There's no advanced. setting for COM ports. I found the setup has quite poor set of settings compared to my old classic Award BIOS 6.00. I ran FreeDOS and MSDOS on it without problems. Kbd and mouse emulation works quite well. One issue I observed was that JEMMEX and HIMEMX detected wrong XMS size - only 0,5GB instead of 3,x GB like MS himem.sys from Win98 did. It is caused by some memory holes - non-contiognous area. Further comments in thread on BTTR forum. I tried to install Win98SE there just for fun but I was unable to run setup (regarless various options an configuration). So I copied my working copy of W98 but it failed to boot with message about missing c:\windows\system\vmm32.vxd - sure it was there and ending with message you ma turn off PC now. It happened in 1sec. When I enabled F8 tracking and answer no to load all drivers it booted in safe mode. That was all I can did. This mobo is simply too new for Win9x I expect it will be similar for different manufactures based on new PCH chipsets intel 5x/6x/7x. So last know working config remains iP/G41+ICH7, maybe ICH9-10... WinXP works fine there. This machine has Samsung 840 SSD and I was able to install AHCI driver after installation but performance gain is weak: IDE mode: 400MB/s, CPUI load 10% AHCI mode: 405MB/s, CPU load 7% I also tried to integrated iastor.sys into my instllation CD, then I was able to run windows setup in AHCI mode but after last restart (windows install almost complette) it didn't boot - ended in restart loop. So this is reason why I installed in IDE mode and enabled AHCI later. I suspect taht driver was installed but registry entry was not properly set to load iastor.sys _during_ system boot. But I don't know where to change it in install scripts. I was able to install all drivers for chipset, network, intel core VGA, sound... except: radic jednoduche komunikace pro sbernici PCI (controller of simple communication for PCI bus) VID:8086 DID:1E3A sub 1C3A/1458 rev 04 but it's not important for working system. It runs very fast from SSD, boot time about 12sec.

I tested various Seamonkey versions: 2.1b2 - 2.7 - bookmarks doesn't work 2.1b1 - black window without text (in all compat modes) 2.1a1 - 2.1a3 - OK I upgraed from 2.0.14 to 2.1 alpha 3 EDIT: I found that 2.1 alpha 3 is unstable and crashed when loading some webpages that 2.0.14 displayed correctly. So I'm back on 2.0.14...

Last when I tested Seamonkey 2.1 with kex 4.5.1 it froze. so I see it made some progress I'll test new 2.7.1 with kex 4.5.2 on real machine

MPlayer 1.0rc4 SVN-r34587 DOS port by Khusraw - also supports AC'97 and HD Audio soundcards! MPlayer sample config file - place in mplayer subdir in exec directory WSS Audio Library used in MPlayer LAME MP3 encoder 3.99.3 DOS port by me FFMPEG video/audio encoder 0.10 DOS port by me x264 video encoder 0.120 DOS port by me Dillo web browser DOS port by Georg Potthast FlWriter DOS port by Georg Potthast

I successfully tried latest Mplayer WW http://mplayer-ww.com/eng/ ,in default setting I can't hear sound but when switched from dsound to win32 it works fine (winamp dsound output works so not generic dsound problem). Added to list.

Today I tested new Seamonkey 2.3beta but doesn't work (neither 2k nor XP mode).

I just collected info posted in old thread that couldn't be modified, I don't have account on KX wiki. Also a lot people here provide incomplete info to fill it in rich way that it's currently on KX wiki. Someone else with enough time can rewrite it...

Audio and video decoder windows seems to be OK.

I successfully tested latest FFDShow MPEG-4 Video Decoder r3943 2011-07-18 with KX 4.5.1 in XP mode. Set compat mode for installer, install and set compat mode for ffdshow.ax

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Hello, this is sequel of an old thread that tries to collect informations from users about working apps under Win98SE+KernelEx. I'll try to manage a compact and sorted list in the 1st post for better readability. In your posts please note exact version of app (you can include link), version of KernelEx and compatability mode you used. If it's working partially, shortly note what doesn't work. - = What is worinkg with KernelEx = - 7zip 18.06 (command line tool only), KX 4.5.2, XP mode Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0.9, KX 4.5, Win2k mode, notes: Backup MSVCRT.DLL before installing and then restore it Adobe Flash Player 11.1.102.62(plugin), KX 4.5.2, XP mode Adobe Flash Player 11.1.01.129 (plugin), KX 4.5.1, notes: tested with Firefox 3.6.23 Adobe Photoshop CS Adobe Shockwave Player 10.2.0.23 Alcohol 120% 1.9.5.3105, notes: This is the last version working natively in 9x, without needing any patches. AlShow 1.7, KX 4.0 AM-Deadlinks 3.3 AptDiff, an excellent freeware binary diff ArtRage 2.5 ArtWeaver 0.5.7, KX 4.0 Audacity 1.3.12-beta, KX 4.5, Win2k mode Audio-Con 1.0, KX 4.0 Avanti 0.5.9 FFMPEG frontend, KX 4.5.1, XP mode Avast 4.8, KX 4.0rc2 AviDemux 2.5.2, KX 4.0, notes: Loudness adjustment doesn't work bbLean BitTorrent 6.4, KX 4.5 BlueCat VST and DirectX audio plugins (tested on the free plugin packs only) BOCHS PC emulator ver. 2.5, KX 4.5.1, XP mode Burnaware Free 2.4.2, KX 4.0, notes: Delete the WnASPI32.dll from Installations folder. Calcplus Charmap from XP Cole2k Media CodecPack 7.9.0, KX 4.0 CoreCodec CorePlayer 1.3.6 build 7427, KX 4.5.2 Corel Paint Shop Pro X CyberPower Audio Editing Lab 14.0.1 Daum Potplayer, KX 4.5.1, Win2k mode DC BASS Source Filter 1.2, XP mode Download Master DownThemAll 2.0.x, KX 4.5 Eraser 5.8.2 rev. 3 FFDShow MPEG-4 Video Decoder 1.1.3943 2011-07-18, KX 4.5.1, XP mode, notes: set compatability for installer and ffdshow.ax FileZilla 2.2.22 Flock 2.5.5 (Firefox clone), XP mode foobar2000 0.9.4.x, notes: Needs setting of [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion] CurrentVersion key to 5.1 DON'T FORGET to delete it afterwards! GIMP 2.2.17 Google Picasa 3 Haali Media Splitter, KX 4.0 Haihaisoft PDF Reader 1.0.3.0, KX 4.0 Haihaisoft Universal-Player-EN 1.4.8.0, KX 4.0 HOLMImpulse, a program for speaker gain and phase response measurement I2pdf 1.020, XP mode Infrarecorder 0.50, KX 4.0 IrfanView Kadmos OCR plugin, Win2k mode, notes: Displays some error messages but conversion works. Java Developer Kit 6 Java Runtime Environment 6 update 31, KX 4.5.2 K-Lite Codec Pack, notes: Dont't let it to "correct the registry", and i prefer to just use KMPlayer. KnobMan and SkinMan, two applications for creating knobs and skins for VST plugins Kerkythea, a free state of the art 3D renderer with some features you won't even find in most high end 3D packages LeaderTask personal organizer Liquid Resize 0.67, a seam carving application Media Player Classic Unicode 6.4.9.1, notes: Works with the exclusion of the program itself from kexver.ini Media Player Classic Unicode [HomeCinema] 1.3.1249.0, KX 4.0 Meedio MemStatus 2.65, notes: Requires mfc80.dll Microsoft Compatibility Pack for Office 2007 system with Windows 98 support (Eng) by PASAf, KX 4.5.2 Mozilla Firefox 10.0.2, KX 4.5.2 Mozilla Seamonkey 2.1 alpha 3, 2.0.14 and older, KX 4.5.2, XP mode, notes: Set compatability mode also for installer. Ver 2.1 - 2.7 now run with KX 4.5.2 but bookmarks cannot be added/managed. MPlayer MPUI.2009-06-12.Full-Package, KX 4.0 MPlayer WW SVN-r34106(20110916), KX 4.5.1, Win2k mode, notes: if you don't hear sound switch from dsound to win32 (ao=win32 in INI file) MSN Messenger 7.0.820 MS Paint from XP, KX 4.0rc2, notes: Requires mfc42u.dll Nero Burning ROM 7 NGView 2.0, KX 4.5.1 Notepad2, notes: Version 2.0.12 ANSI works without KX. Notepad++ 6.3.1 UNICODE, KX 4.5.1 Odin Password Security Manager 6.5.2 OpenOffice.org 3.1.1, KX 4.0 Opera 10.61, KX 4.5.2 Pale Moon 3.6.26, KX 4.5.2, notes: version 9.1 needs further steps, see page 4 Passwordfolder 1.0b, KX 4.0 PC-Wizard 2010.1.95, notes: Some info cannot be retrieved (like temperatures), some details cause system to hang up, but most of the stuff were detected and displayed correctly. PDF XChangeViewer build 2.5.201.0/b], KX 4.5.2 PhotoCreator SE, notes: Only installable on Japanese Windows, but works on non-Japanese Windows. Sometimes the program may crash. Photoshop CS Pixelformer 0.9.6.3 PunkBuster QEMU PC Emulator 0.13.0, KX 4.5.1, XP mode Quicktime Alternative 2.9.0, KX 4.0 Realtime Alternative 2.0.1, KX 4.0 SISContents 1.57, notes: It produces error messages, does not display some text (for example in caption), may crash, but I have successfully extracted sisx file with it. Siteshoter 1.38, KX 4.0 Skype 3.8 SophosFreeEncrytion 2.40.0, KX 4.0 Speedyfox (Firefox optimizer) Starry Night CASP 6 STDU Viewer 1.5.647, KX 4.5.1, notes: Some windows displaying problems but still usable for viewing. Super2009 build 36, KX 4.0 SUPERAntiSpyware Free Edition, XP mode, notes: Set XP mode also for installer. SyncBack 3.2.21.0 Textaloud 2.303 TextMaker Viewer 2010, KX 4.5, notes: It crashed when I tried to view html file, but it opened several doc files and tmd file correctly without errors. Thunderbird 3.0, Win2k mode TopOCR 2.6, KX 4.0 TotalText Container, KX 4.5, Win2k mode Triple Cheese Universal Extractor 1.6 beta uTorrent 2.0.2, KX 4.5 Visual C++ Toolkit 2003 VLC Media Player 2.0.3, KX 4.5.2, Win2k mode (crash in XP mode) Voxengo VST plugins (tested on the free plugins only) VST plugins by Melda Productions VST plugins requiring the Pluggo runtime Winamp Pro 5.541, KX 4.5.1, XP mode Wings3D 1.0 WinHlp32 from WinXP SP2, notes: In original WinHlp32 mouse scrolling did not worked, in this it works. WordPerfect X3 Wyzo 3.0.3 (Firefox clone), XP mode xCHM, an excellent viewer for chm files XP-Codec Pack 2.5.0, KX 4.0rc2 Yahoo CA Anti-spy, KX 4.0rc2 ZoneAlarm Pro 4.0, KX 4.0rc2 - = Games that works = - Doom 3 Golly 1.4, a Game of Life simulator JNES, Win2k+ mode Quake 4 Phantasy Star Universe: Ambition of the Illuminus, KX 4.5, notes: Requires d3dx9_33.dll, no movie playback. Prey Need for Speed: Most Wanted Ootake 2.40 Race On The Chronicles of Riddick EFBB Demo Touhou Chireiden ~ Subterranean Animism demo ver 0.02a, notes: Requires d3dx9_37.dll Touhou Seirensen ~ Undefined Fantastic Object demo ver 0.02a, notes: Requires d3dx9_40.dll Zombie Shooter - = What doesn't work = - Adobe Acrobat Professional 7 AM-Deadline 4.3 AviDemux 2.5.3, why: Failed with missing MSVCRT.DLL:_fstat64 BOCHS PC emulator 2.4.6, why: Program starts but failed during boot the virtual machine BIOS. Use version 2.4.5 Chrome, tested with KX 4.0 Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo X2, why: Installs from the .msi but doesn't run. No error message. Use latest native version 9.0 CPU-Z 1.5.7 and newer, why: The error code 0x5003 occured during initialization with KX 4.5.1. Use version 1.5.6 that is last with Win9x native support. Double Commander, why: It doesn't start, no error message displayed. Eraser 5.8.7 and newer Guitar Pro 5.2, why: Program starts but cannot display notes. It also may crash on exit. Servant Salamander 3.0 beta, why: even with latest Kernelex it has missing NetShareEnum export in netapi32.dll Skype 4.0, why: SKYPE caused an invalid page fault in module KERNEL32.DLL at 0167:bff7436e. Sound Forge 9.0e, why: Doesn't install, says "The operating system does not support this application". Anyone know how to trick the new InstallShield? Word Perfect X4 Xvid 1.3.2, why: Failed to rexister *.AX filter during installation Yahoo Messenger 9 Beta, why: Does not want to install and says it needs Win2k or higher no matter what compatibility i set in KernelEx or registry. KX Wiki compatability page

Winamp Pro 5.541 works with KX 4.5.1 Winamp 5.35 was probably the latest with native win98 support. BTW I think it would be good idea to create application list in 1st post because now it's spreaded on 8 pages that become a mess... I can see that author of 1st post here is signed "banned" so he probably cannot update this. I can help with it if admin allows me to moderate this thread.

Have you tried W2K compatibility mode? I've found some app's are no good using XP compatibility mode, but are fine using W2K mode. Joe. No but it's not 99.99% this problem. I found other user reported that seamonkey 2.1 beta 1 worked for him but all newer version freezed at rendering page. I deleted 2.1 and reverted back to 2.0.14 that works fine. But hope that some future KX version will make it available.