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Yes I knew that, and saw that. And the point you are trying to make? I mean I had only butted into this thread when you said that you couldn't be connected to a wired and wireless network at the same time as a possible reason why colore was having problems, when my recent observations, backed up by cluberti's info re Win8, seemed to indicate that you could. Since then I've only been trying to provide requested data. True. Since I noticed that both networks had that when they were both connected when I did the original ipconfig -all as jaclaz suggested. That would have been easier. But then I was only following your suggestion: Would you like me to do any more testing and provide any more info? Did any of this give you any ideas as to what colore could do to solve his problem? Cheers and Regards

It ends up that both of these were installed, but disabled, so they weren't doing anything. I enabled/connected to both LAN/wireless networks, set the Wireless network to "Connect automatically" and to "Connect to a more preferred network if available" then restarted the laptop so it would pick which network it wanted to use. Result: As Trip has said, both LAN and wireless use the same Gateway (and DNS) addresses. The info shown here is consistent with that previously posted, showing simultaneous connection to both networks. I then opened up a Firefox page to QVC (my wife's home page) then: Result [Not showing 127.0.0.1 type connections, etc]: (Both networks connected) The LAN was obviously used for Internet connection.. I then unplugged the LAN, I did not refresh the browser page, and reran netstat -v Wireless was used for internet connection, but the LAN still got some hits, though not unexpected.. I then replugged the LAN, I did not refresh the browser page, and reran netstat -v From the greater number of hits by the router's wireless connection to the default gateway I'm guessing that it was still being used for Internet access? I then refreshed the browser page then reran netstat -v Which seemed to make it use the LAN connection again. I then unplugged the LAN, refreshed the browser page, and reran netstat -v Then I replugged the LAN, refreshed the browser page, then reran netstat -v And I can't tell which network is being used more in this case. Let me know if I can provide any further info for your edification. Cheers and Regards

Sure, its right in your screenshot. You have the Intel PRO/Set software, as well as Intel My WiFi installed. None that I installed. That came straight from Dell and I'm not even sure what part either of those plays in this situation. I did nothing to set either of them up or change anything at all different from when it came straight from Dell. The laptop is now a year old and it has been running fine all this past year with only updates from WU. Other various software has been installed, but nothing at all that has anything to do with any kind of networking or Internet access besides browers, ftp clients, etc. I'll post the data you and jaclaz asked for when I get home later this evening. Cheers and Regards

No special wireless hardware/software installed, that I know of. Just straight from Dell and updated with MU. I did not intend the two networks to both be active at the same time and I did nothing at all special to enable it. Both networks were set up with straight stock default settings, except network name and password, of course. (They are both using the same router to connect out to the internet, if that makes any difference, so the only difference, in my case, between the two networks is the route taken from the laptop to the router, either wireless or Ethernet.) Anyway, if I am connected to the Internet through the LAN connection and have a browser open to any site at all, then disconnect/unplug the LAN and connect/enable the wireless network and click any link at all on the already opened page it goes there with no hesitation and no page refreshing necessary at all. Then if I disconnect the wireless network and plug in the LAN and click any link at all, again it goes there with no hesitation and no page refreshing necessary at all. The next link selection is not made before I am connected to the network I want to use. It makes no difference if I have both networks connected at the same time before I disconnect from one of them, or if I disconnect first, so have no Internet connection at all for a bit, before connecting the other one. If I keep both networks connected simultaneously browsing works just fine as well, though I have no idea which network it actually uses at that time. I don't have multiple different physical connections (routers/LANs) to experiment with. I wasn't trying to set it up this way, but if you want me to tell you any particular settings just let me know. Cheers and Regards

This was not true in my wife's laptop's case. The pic I showed above is the one that showed most clearly that she was indeed connected though both connections, LAN and wireless, at the same time. When I clicked the "See Full Map", it just showed one "leg" at a time, based on the pulldown box selection. But it did show that she was connected through both connections. That screen also had options to show other "legs" that she was not connected through, such as Bluetooth. I think the reason the OP is having problems is because of something he disabled or removed: He probably disabled/removed more than just the icon in the traybar, probably something key in the wireless system itself. My desktop doesn't have that icon or the "Manage Wireless Networks" option, but my desktop doesn't have any wireless card or driver installed. The "See Full Map" option dropdown box might show the OP whether there is a wireless connection installed, just not active, available to be connected to, but I'm not sure. @colore, assuming you have a wireless card and driver installed in your computer and a wireless router or whatever properly set up and the two appear to be talking to each other, (you sometimes have to set the wireless side of the router up through the wired connection), what happens when you click "Connect to a network" and try to establish a connection through that wireless card? And is this a home wireless connection you are trying to establish or at an Internet cafe or hotspot or something? Cheers and Regards

Not true, as I found out today on my wife's laptop. (Win7 x64 as supplied straight from Dell and kept up to date from MU) Both networks were connected simultaneously. Disconnect from either one and any internet activity continued on the other one. (It just so happened that I did not want this behavior. I wanted it set so that if the LAN was plugged in the wireless network was disconnected. I couldn't figure out how to do this automatically when I quickly looked, so I just disconnected the wireless network and left it to NOT automatically re-connect. If it's needed, I just have to select it and click "connect" so that's easy enough.) Cheers and Regards

I'm curious where the OP got the command "delhost 127.0.0.1 ....."? I've never heard of the batch command "delhost". The method that jaclaz detailed above should work fine and offer any needed flexibility. Cheers and Regards

"You can't always get what you want." Well, you might can make a batch yourself that does what you want by running the various tools in command line mode, if they can be run that way that is. But depending how often you rebuild/install your OS, it might be a whole lot easier to just set them manually after installation. Other than the very small time saving if they can be set automatically, why do you feel you need this done automatically? And the tools you were pointed to seem to be able to do all you asked for and more for Chrome and Firefox, and you say you have a reg file that handles IE, so what's the problem? Do you just want someone to hand you a working solution that does exactly what you asked for, and nothing else, without you having to do any work yourself? Cheers and Regards

I just checked the first page that came up when I searched for keyboards at Newegg - http://www.newegg.com/Keyboards/SubCategory/ID-63. There were keyboards from MS, Logitech, Saitek, Rosewill, Tt, LITE-ON, Orange, and others. Except for the Mini keyboards, most, but not all, of the keyboards shown there had a right Windows key. Cheers and Regards

I see, thanks. If these issues could be fixed, it'd be nice to have the option. The Lenovos could always use some other key(s). It's not just Lenovos. Most keyboards don't have a right windows key. Well, probably not many/most laptops, but all the desktop keyboards I have, at least the 14 I just checked (don't ask LOL), if they had one (13 did) then they had both. The other one was too old to have either. Admittedly, none of them are newer than 3 or 4 years old. Cheers and Regards

LOL Sorry Trip! Cheers and Regards

Do we have ANY valid members who identify their OS as Vista Business x86, or are all such members spammers? Just wondering since from what I've seen ... Cheers and Regards

From what I have seen, Classic Shell adds all the standard "Metro" apps to their start menu in a separate list "Apps" and the desktop apps are under "Programs". Seems like an easy way to keep them separate yet easily available -- Open the start menu, click Apps, click the app you want. It worked for me today when I was cleaning up my neighbor's new laptop that came with Win 8 installed. It was the first time I've actually been forced to mess with Win 8 on actual hardware. Cheers and Regards

I'm very glad someone else agreed to be the keeper. As a place for folks to begin posting potential entries to the FAQ, to prevent too many duplicates, and to help trigger folks ideas of other Q&A's I created this thread - http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/160041-98sp3-faq-gathering-thread/ Other hints, tips and tricks could also be posted there. Cheers and Regards

Q: Older versions of the Service Pack used to change Start Menu banner and Desktop icons. I want to keep the originals. How can I do that? A: Starting with v3.6, these changes are optional and will only get installed by selecting Windows Millenium Edition/Windows 2000 Theme option. Cheers and Regards

THIS THREAD IS ONLY FOR LEAVING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE USEFUL IN A FAQ WE WANT TO CREATE TO HELP 98SP3 USERS. HINTS, TIPS AND TRICKS CAN ALSO BE POSTED. DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS IN THIS THREAD - THEY WILL BE IGNORED. Thanks in advance for your help and for your cooperation. Cheers and Regards

All very, very true. But will it be any worse than it is now? And if it's even 2% better, wouldn't it be worth it to have even those few less annoyances? Just a suggestion. I'll hush now. It is your project and your final decision. Thanks for all your hard work on this project. Cheers and Regards

Maybe not at first, but if the more common questions were all put together in one post as a FAQ, as Drugwash suggests, then when a question is asked, again, then all it takes is a link to that post as a response, and nothing else. Overall, less work will be required by whoever responds to the question. Also, more people will be able to learn more of the details of the SP even if they don't use it very often, as I don't, and they will be able to more easily help with the responses. I'm as guilty as the next guy of not reading through all 100 pages of this thread. When Lone Crusader mentioned to me that he thought he remembered that there was a problem in the past between SP3 and Plus, I assumed he would know, since he uses Plus and he's been involved with Win98 and this thread longer than I have, but I asked the clarifying question, again, in this thread a week ago. I'm guilty and I'm sorry. I don't know about everybody else, but I can't always find what I want in the forum even when I know that it's there, somewhere. Cheers and Regards

How exactly did the change in version number prevent you installing certain software? Which exact version number and of what, and what was the software that it effected? The artwork is the prerogative of the person that updates the pack and the start menu. You are welcome to then change it back as you learned how to do, or not use the pack and install all your own updates instead. It is not totally unreasonable to politely (and all your posts so far that I have seen have been polite) ask PROBLEMCHYLD if it would be possible to allow the artwork to be more easily modified by the user, but he is perfectly within his rights to just as politely decline. He has spent an enormous amount of time creating, troubleshooting, and updating this pack, all for free and on his own time, so he has every right to add some distinctive touches that do not detrimentally effect its operation. More folks seem to like these distinctive personalizing touches than you might realize, but many of those also want to personalize things their way, so the ability to modify the artwork might appeal to more than just you. Cheers and Regards

Are there any issues or special requirements using WinPE4 to install Win7, either x86 or x64? I seem to remember seeing comments from folks that had some problems, but I can't put my finger on them now. Cheers and Regards

You've shown one way I have always have had problems with the Library folder. It can be very confusing. I'll throw out some stuff here, but I have not rechecked my facts, every time I try to look some of these things up I just get more confused, so take everything I say with a great big grain of salt and I could be totally wrong. If I am, please don't jump down my throat, just please gently correct me. As jaclaz said, I think what you are seeing is "by design". Remember that the Library, I believe, is just a virtual folder, it's just a collection of links to files and folders from all over your system that have been collected there for your convenience. And even though the folder PHOTOSHOP is "there", doesn't mean you can always access it and add stuff to it as you think you should be able to. As a comparison, consider "Documents and Settings". In Win 7, to even see it, you have to un-check "Hide protected operating system files" in Folder Options/View, but even then you can't open the folder directly or add anything to it. But if you open up a "Run" box from the start menu and type in C:\Documents and Settings\'Your-user-name here'\desktop you'll find that that opens up your desktop folder the same way that C:\Users\'Your-user-name here'\desktop does. I know it's not an exact comparison, but it's the closest I could think of. Anyway, I don't know how your PHOTOSHOP folder was made "special", just as you don't either. But to avoid those confusing situations I tend to not use the Library. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Cheers and Regards

I didn't know you could format a USB key eXFat. Why do you want to do this? Cheers and Regards

Please provide links to where you read both of those things. Cheers and Regards

That is not right. IE6 was released with XP, and updates to IE7 and IE8 have been officially available. I'm not positive that all 3 are supported by XP x64, but I think so. I'm not sure at all what the status is for IE9. It was not officially released for XP, but there may have been some tricks made to allow it to be used. Cheers and Regards

Hmmm These images have all been working for me the entire time. But Reboot.Pro itself is not pulling up, so... Those images must have gotten cached for me so I can still see them. OK, here is a repost of jaclaz's post, with the reboot.pro images reupped so you can see what you missed. Let me know if there are any others you need to see. Cheers and Regards