thanks keytotime for explaining that to me. i use a quick batch file converter to make my "Installer.exe" remember u told me i dont hv to use it anymore. My Installer.exe is much smaller than StartX.exe and i can put multiple commands in it. Just like evilvoice's method. good job man... great to hv a new guide to help everyone make their own 7zip applications. Hopefully we will be seeing a rise in pre 7zip applications in the future.