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I'm not @yoltboy01 but THANK YOU for posting that link! Well done! Debby a/k/a TheBocaDeb

tested in fresh unpacked 13.5-R3 found a way to replicate the download window issue. https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop start the download and keep refreshing the chrome default folder in explorer. after some 30 seconds the ldb file will be created. (log file is created on start download) now delete the ongoing download in the download window and clear browser download history. without a browser restart the download window stays empty and the temp crdownload file is deleted. restart browser and the file is still listed in the download manager but not on disk. (and the 0000xx.ldb file is in the default root) workaround for now by this : FileDelete=%Profile%\Default\*.tmp;*-journal;log;log.old;*.log;*.ldb just added ;*.ldb to the line in the loader.ini.

Agreed. I personally find it extremely narrow-minded how Firefox users boycott Chromium-based browsers. If you are on the internet, you are being tracked to some degree, period! We do our best to limit the tracking, but I really do believe that Firefox users turn a blind eye to the tracking that Firefox employs and they go into epileptic shock whenever they hear the word "Chromium" or "Chrome". I sometimes feel like I should play Devil's Advocate and create a new member account and post telemetry findings left and right on every Firefox Fanatic Forum I can find. Don't get me wrong. I used Firefox (in the form of Pale Moon, Mypal, and New Moon) for YEARS. But times change - several of my web sites NO LONGER WORK in Pale Moon, Mypal, and New Moon! And it's not an XP Thing, the web sites DO NOT WORK in Pale Moon, Mypal, and New Moon on Win 7 or Win 10 either! I keep my eyes open and test new releases. MAYBE one of these days I will return to Firefox-based browsers. But when web sites DO NOT WORK, then I really have very limited options. And this really does SAY IT ALL -- Chrome global market share = 65.2% Firefox global market share = 3.7% There is a REASON that Firefox is so LOW. And Firefox users really should wake up if they are TRULY concerned with "fingerprinting" -- it is MUCH easier to find a needle in a TINY haystack then it is to find one in a GIGANTIC haystack. "Fingerprinting" has nothing to do with blocking fonts, blocking User Agent, blocking resolution detection. "Fingerprinting" is about having 30 or 40 metrics, being able to detect only 6 to 10 of those metrics, and you are uniquely identified by only those 6 to 10. Forensics don't need an entire "fingerprint", they only need a very small portion of the fingerprint to "identify" the felon. But anyway...

New NewMoon 27 Build! 32bit https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20211030-2087e70e1-xpmod.7z 32bit SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20211030-2087e70e1-xpmod-sse.7z 32bit noSSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20211030-2087e70e1-xpmod-ia32.7z 64bit https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win64-git-20211030-2087e70e1-xpmod.7z source repo: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27 repo changes since my last build: - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1167248: Test whether mysterious rand_s failures are due to LoadLibraryExW hooks. rs=terrence (4c38bf34b) - Bug 1176289 - Record proper optimization tracking outcome on failure of getPropTryConstant due to non-singleton value. r=shu (6a718490e) - Bug 1180013 - Fix irregexp on ARM64. r=efaust (88bb8599a) - Bug 1163891 - Read lines of input in xpcshell/jsshell while properly handling EINTR failures and retrying in response. r=glandium (c84415384) - Bug 1176890 - Start running jstests faster on windows; r=sfink (f878247e4) - No Bug - Fix test count generation when jit-flags is set; r=meow (9f90cbd6e) - Bug 1177801 - Remove NewObjectWithProto. r=bhackett (64a29265e) - Bug 1179315 - part 1 - make TypedArrayLayout's constructor inline and MOZ_CONSTEXPR; r=lth (e7da1ad42) - Bug 1179315 - part 2 - make it more obvious that typeIDs of typed arrays are constants; r=lth (796348a4d) - Bug 1197316 - Remove PR_snprintf calls in xpcom/. r=froydnj (1c775e4c0) - Bug 1210607 - Check for null compartment in PopulateReportBlame() r=terrence (4b19494a2) - Bug 1145636 - Update jsapi-tests/README. (The functional change is where it talks about the Makefile; that was stale.) r=Waldo. (b0cd84037) - Bug 1123875 - Add a test for strict assignment to a readonly WebIDL attribute. r=peterv. (1c8f5fae8) - Bug 1145218 - Require a new float manager if a block frame has a different writing-mode to its parent's. r=dbaron (7ebcd8fab) - Bug 1150151 - Set leak threshold for reftests (r=mccr8) (19cb1a82e) - Bug 1149781; Update Oculus runtime for new SDK 0.5; r=jrmuizel (aea8b2c31) - Bug 1149781; [webvr] Update Oculus API to use 0.5.x SDK; Mac startup crash fix; r=dbaron, a=startup-crash (ad874bd1b) - Bug 1145936 - Fix sizing of foreignObject with vertical writing mode. r=smontagu (059e46e95) (f0504b101) - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1118272 - Hold a cpu wakelock for async call "AlarmsManager.add". r=fabrice (2e04b9b47) - Bug 1146754 - Reftest for selection highlighting of trailing space. r=mats (5b9083192) - Bug 1146754 - Fix reftests for selected shadowed text to avoid trailing-space issues. r=mats (727f06840) - Bug 1146754 - Show selection highlighting for trailing space. r=mats (16955b975) - Bug 1146754 followup - Add a little fuzz to the testcase for OS X 10.10. no_r=me (31efb0691) - Bug 1148376 - Only force-enable layers acceleration on Gonk. r=jmuizelaar (28bdfa602) - Bug 1149519 - Workaround for GDI's failure to return empty extents for blank glyphs. r=roc (0467912a9) - Bug 1174230 - Limit the complexity of regalloc bundles which can be merged together, r=sunfish. (929511dd4) - Bug 1029483 - Fix various 99ch style violations in Intl.cpp. r=sparky (9f5de7ea9) - Bug 1093421 - Add a test for support for currencyDisplay: 'name' or 'code' when formatting numbers. r=abargull (1107405c5) - Bug 946528 - Update the default number of digits of precision in numbers formatted as CLF currency (Chile's Unidad de Fomento) in the Intl API. r=abargull (268fbd219) - Bug 1177898 - Fix error checking in CloneFunctionObjectIfNotSingleton. (r=efaust) (e8509a49e) - Bug 866596 - Properly reject locales with duplicate singletons or variants as invalid within the Intl API. r=abargull (edc6917a8) - Bug 866596 - Properly reject locales with duplicate singletons or variants as invalid within the Intl API. r=abargull (0c0bfe280) - pointer style (c6953c513) - Bug 1178976: Add a post-write barrier to ObjectWeakMap::add. r=terrence (89b9a7b2f) - Bug 1177941 - Do not show warning about unreachable empty statement after return statement. r=Waldo (f661cf694) - spaces, pointer style (c22647ade) - Bug 1161351 - Fix unwound exit frame sizes in JitProfilingFrameIterator. (r=nbp) (d5f415602) - Bug 1172498 - Properly mark ion frame new.target values. (r=jandem) (a2fc125ec) - Bug 1163520: Make IsInternalFunctionObject take its argument by reference, as it must not be nullptr. r=shu (f02635f28) - Bug 1163520: Don't hand out internal function objects via Debugger.Environment.prototype.callee. r=shu (13ac48c56) (e39070aba) - ported changes from mozilla upstream: Bug 1250589 - Remove the must-be-parenthesized requirement from yield expressions. r=waldo (4f327d0de) - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1175347 - Add a JSAPI test for exposing availability of locales derived from the default locale. r=itsatest, rs=till over IRL (0bba85db1) - Bug 1175347 - Fix a test that assumes too much in compacting builds. r=intermittent-orange in a CLOSED TREE (b2992b31c) - Bug 1171180 - Remove trunc from jsmath; r=jorendorff (0e8913338) - Bug 1176864 - Truncate modulo operator for int32 r=h4writer, r=nbp (5de9c5340) - Bug 1166790 - Remove old Statistics formatting code; r=sfink (6abc54dab) - Bug 1171612 - Use C++11 features to make Statistics module nicer; r=sfink (d0cfef988) - Bug 1132208 - "Remove dead code from framerate actor now in GraphsWorker.js". r=jsantell (4bfaf2773) - Bug 1146237 - FramerateActor should use docShell.now() rather than performance.now so that page refreshes do not break it. r=vp (a0d3fbd28) - Bug 1134079 - Supply audio node definitions directly from the client if the webaudio actor server does not support it (like on older versions of FxOS). r=vp (95f728d47) - Bug 1172183 - Pull out the implementation of FramerateActor so that it can be consumed by other actors. r=vp (1c3f0d82a) - Bug 1172182 - Pull out memory utility logic out of the MemoryActor so other actors can consume it. r=vp (851d1cce3) - Bug 1172182 part 2: correctly link to the memory module via timeline actor. r=vp (3714663db) - Bug 1172184 - Pull out logic from TimelineActor into a standalone module that can be consumed by other actors. (031127dc0) - partial of Bug 1159506 - Make GC events use TimeStamp. r=terrence (99fa0378f) - Bug 1035973 - Add DebuggerObject.getOwnPropertySymbols; r=fitzgen (fd10482d5) - Bug 1174712 - Tolerate singleton objects with uncacheable prototypes in Ion caches, r=jandem. (7c3ce4fdc) - add limits for numeric_limits (67b09aa7f) - Bug 811911 - Use UTF-8 output for TwoByte chars in Error objects; r=jandem (2fd3cf6cd) - Fix the test for bug 1173787 to work even when the filename contains a ':' (e.g. on Windows) so we can reopen the CLOSED TREE (b42aa3b92) - Bug 1100498 - Report function names for addon exceptions. r=billm (dfa69d830) - Bug 1170840 - Add testbed allocator for new regalloc features, and use for a change to hot/cold code bundle splitting, r=sunfish. (95c484a37) - Bug 1174542 - Remove unnecessary AutoWritabeJitCode from initTraceLogger. r=luke (a427e979c) - Bug 1173529: IonMonkey - Also iterate phis when removing guards, r=nbp (055a5dcd7) - Bug 1114079 - Fix overrecursion check in nsGlobalWindow::SetNewDocument to not report a JS exception. r=bz (7c0ba0677) - Bug 1172513 part 1. Fix shell's Evaluate to actually throw when it detects save/load bytecode mismatches. r=waldo (5f5ccc094) - Bug 1172513 part 2. When XDR-encoding a function, don't incode temporary flags. r=waldo (404fa1939) - Bug 1171430 - Do not poison the nursery's chunk kind marker; r=terrence (248667fc9) - Bug 1171430 - Don't shift the poison value by non-byte values; r=jonco (320ba4ba0) - Bug 1173908 - Fix an MSVC warning about negating an unsigned integer; r=nbp (3244fd56c) - Bug 1172545 - Recover from OOM if Ion compilation is skipped due to not being able to allocate a 'this' object, r=jandem. (918025215) (00ce1ce6f) - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1125481 - Replace FunctionInfo macros by variadic templates. r=Waldo (83244859f) - Bug 1125481 - FunctionInfo: Remove useless inline keywords. r=Waldo (a13a186af) - Bug 1169769 - Stop pretending js/src is a top-level directory. r=gps (2ba218bbf) - Bug 1132189 - Rename "Analysis Helper" thread. r=bhackett (1a6b50af5) - Bug 1172824: Initialize a few more members in VerifyPreTracer (CID 1304706); r=terrence (9fb0f4b03) - Bug 1172824: Close dumpFile in case of error in DumpHeap (CID 1302587); r=jonco (e552f4320) - Bug 1172641 - Fix class tests to not fail on builds where classes are not enabled r=shu (56474b665) - Bug 1153244 - increase JS helper threads stack space when MOZ_TSAN is enabled; r=bhackett (cb5c9fc01) - Bug 1172895: Raise the stack size limit for JS helper threads; r=bhackett (750cc5e19) - Bug 1166101 - redirect aka os.file.redirect should not be available in fuzzing mode (09f574daa) - Bug 1139376: Ionmonkey - Make removing of guards aware of phis, r=nbp (fb7cb028b) - Bug 1171722 - Part 1: Add gcreason to GCSliceCallback. r=fitzgen (a9e4ae93b) - Bug 1171722 - Part 2: Add gcreason::XPCONNECT_SHUTDOWN. r=terrence (815cbd630) - Bug 1171722 - Part 3: Specify gcreason::XPCONNECT_SHUTDOWN during xpconnect shutdown. r=mccr8 (5123cda83) - Bug 1171722 - Part 4: Don't warn if DebuggerOnGCRunnable::Enqueue fails during shutdown. r=mccr8 (efc3b8aab) - Bug 1173513 - Point to SavedFrame.md docs from JSAPI comments; r=fitzgen (6c9bb84db) - No Bug - Remove an unneeded annotation DONTBUILD; r=sfink (05fe03101) - Bug 1171871 - Fix bytecode documentation comment for JSOP_NEWTARGET. r=efaust (bacbef1ce) - Bug 1169460 - Fix imprecise computation in BacktrackingAllocator::minimalUse, r=sunfish. (7ea535e67) - Bug 1170959 - Remove JS_GetPropertyDescriptor from a JSAPI test. r=efaust (8745b6d04) (e361c5511) - ported dependency of "Bug 1174307 - Add some internal content policy types for the purpose of reflecting them on RequestContex", some part may already in the tree: - Bug 1175114 - Translate the content policy type obtained in CSPService::AsyncOnChannelRedirect to an external one before invoking the content policy implementation; r=smaug - Bug 1175122 - Add more assertions to the in-tree content policy implementations to ensure that they receive external content policy types; r=baku - Bug 1178339 - Account for service workers separately in WorkerDomainInfo; r=nsm (4e0540b82) - ported follow-ups of "Bug 1143922 - Add AsyncOpen2 to nsIChannel and perform security checks when opening a channel - scriptSecurityManager changes (r=sicking,bholley)": - Bug 1184387 - Bail out of file:// loads for all non-chrome:// URIs. r=Gijs - Bug 1224046 - Remove <base href> from directory listings. r=mcmanus (dbff70221) - ported 2 commits from mozilla upstream to fix ask-to-activate plugin issue: - Bug 1232903 - Skip Security checks if triggeringPrincipal is SystemPrincipal (r=sicking) - Bug 1257650 - Skip Security checks if triggeringPrincipal is SystemPrincipal only for subresource loads. r=sicking (2087e70e1)

This may help. I ran it once on Windows 7 and it worked ok.

Agreed. So the "test" is NOT about whether or not your browser "itself" is vulnerable to fingerprinting. The "test" SHOULD BE "does this website engage in fingerprinting" and if the answer is YES, then boycott the $h!t out of that website. Otherwise, if you trust that website to the extent of becoming a member, registering, and logging in, then, um, you have OPTED IN to that website "knowing" who you are, fingerprint or not. The point really boils down to this, if your level of paranoia wants to live in a cardboard box under a bridge, by all means, it's not for me to tell you were to pitch your tent. But let's stop acting like dogs trying to bite a flea on the tip of its tail. If you don't trust the website you are visiting, then HELLO, why did you visit it? Really seems that simple to me. Moving on... I have my paradigm, others have theirs... MSFN threads don't alter people's perspectives...

Agreed! And nowadays you actually stand out like a sore thumb and uniquely identify yourself when you falsely think you are "hiding". Fake a Win10 User Agent and you've added your needle to a gigantic haystack nearly impossible to find. Fake a cell phone User Agent then play a video four times the resolution of every cell phone on the market, you've told them EXACTLY who you are because you're the only person on the planet viewing such a large video resolution on a "cell phone".

The plot mysteriously thickens... Package "palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20210904-d43e6f58e-xpmod"; Flash set to "Ask to Activate"; on https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/about/ (my Flash test page), the plugin URLbar icon is "invisible": whereas on http://www.snailsanimation.com/benchmark08_play.php (your Flash test page) is there:

... Perhaps you're referring to the fact Adobe Flash Player had been the last NPAPI plugin for which Firefox support was removed (whereas support for other NPAPIs like PDF/Java/WMPlayer/etc. was axed quite earlier...) ? ... But, does it show up on package "palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20210904-d43e6f58e-xpmod.7z" and earlier builds? I think there are two related bugs here: 1. The "plugin icon" (what I called "plugin permissions control icon") not showing up in the left extremity of the URLbar (which, according to my test, precedes package "palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20210911-8d7b56d38-xpmod.7z"), and 2. "Ask-to-Activate" as a whole not working at all, which, as you said, manifests itself starting with package "palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20210911-8d7b56d38-xpmod.7z" ...

StartAllBack 3.0.2

@husara1 @MicahMoo11 There will be better updates in the future than BWC updates. It will be able to run newer software. With the removal of the shortcomings, and perhaps Windows 2000 will be a high match in the coming years, stay tuned. Wish this person success in his work. Don't tell people that Windows 2000 is over, There is someone who tires of developing new, cutting-edge updates.