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  2. Dave-H
    Well I'm still hoping to hear back from Panda technical support, so I won't do anything until I give up waiting if nothing happens! They do have a UK support phone number too. My installation has worked fine for seven months, with no problems at all, so if it's corrupted, I have no idea how or why. The service executable hasn't changed, so I can only assume it was something that was downloaded on a synchronisation update a couple of days ago.
  3. Mathwiz
    I have AT&T fiber. My router is built into the fiber interface provided by AT&T. It is rather "locked down." I can't even block unwanted DNS lookups at the router, nor can I reroute DNS requests to another device, such as my Raspberry Pi (for, say, Pi-Hole). That sort of thing has to be done by configuring each connected device individually. You're welcome to prove me wrong but I doubt there's a way to force this router to obtain a new external IP address by running a script on a connected device.
  4. AstroSkipper
    That sounds like a completely corrupt installation, though. I don’t have any of those problems at all. If I were you, I’d uninstall Panda completely, carry out a deep clean – particularly of all the Panda folders and the registry – and perhaps consider installing the older version 21.01.00.
  5. Today
  6. sprktune started following XMeters settings app crashes on Win11 - ITrayDeskBand (E_NOINTERFACE) not answered by reimplemented taskbar
  7. sprktune
    I've traced a reproducible incompatibility between StartAllBack and XMeters (a taskbar system-monitor app) on Windows 11, and wanted to report it with the details in case it's an easy fix on the SAB side. Setup: Windows 11 24H2, build 26100.8737. StartAllBack 3.9.23 (5366), Win10-style taskbar. XMeters 1.0.103. Symptom: The XMeters toolbar itself works - its DLL is hosted by Explorer, renders in the taskbar, and can be toggled via the Toolbars menu. But its settings/manager app (XMeters.exe) crashes on 100% of launches, so there's no way to configure the meters. The already-running band keeps working - only the settings app dies. Root cause (from the crash dumps + .NET Runtime event 1026): an unhandled System.InvalidCastException thrown at XMC.App.ShowDeskBand. XMeters calls CoCreateInstance for the shell's tray DeskBand object (CLSID {E6442437-6C68-4F52-94DD-2CFED267EFB9}), which succeeds, then does QueryInterface for ITrayDeskBand (IID {6D67E846-5B9C-4DB8-9CBC-DDE12F4254F1}) - and that QI returns E_NOINTERFACE (0x80004002). In other words, the tray object provided by the reimplemented taskbar doesn't expose ITrayDeskBand, so the app throws and terminates. I verified the interface's proxy/stub registration is intact system-wide (HKLM\...\Interface\{6D67E846...}\ProxyStubClsid32 → {C90250F3-4D7D-4991-9B69-A5C5BC1C2AE6}), and the CLSID carries only an AppID (runtime factory), which points to the live tray object as the source of the refusal rather than anything missing in the registry. The crash also reproduces with no third-party DLLs injected into the process. Request: Would it be possible for the reimplemented taskbar's tray object to support ITrayDeskBand (ShowDeskBand / HideDeskBand / IsDeskBandShown)? That would let legacy DeskBand apps like XMeters run their configuration UIs again. I realize DeskBands are a deprecated shell mechanism that Win11 dropped, so I completely understand if this is out of scope - but since SAB already hosts the band for display, exposing that one interface might bridge the gap. Happy to provide crash dumps, full event-log text, or test any build. Thanks for SAB - it's what makes XMeters usable on Win11 at all.
  8. Dave-H
    Mine seems to be a bit more stable now. It doesn't seem to crash spontaneously. The one thing that seems to guarantee crashing it is hitting the start button on the taskbar. That seems to generate an instant crash. After that it restarts and seems to settle down and doesn't crash again.
  9. AstroSkipper
    Apart from the fact that the PSANHost.exe process is rubbish, you need to exclude many programmes – particularly the more obscure ones – from monitoring. And not just the EXE file, but the entire folder in some cases. This also includes all security programmes, such as firewalls and so on, and all programmes that run constantly in the background and have your trust.
  10. modnar
    Wow! What news! Also - have you ever had happen that your RAM was at different speed than set in BIOS? I had that apparently since the last time I was changing a disk portion of BIOS, never touched RAM, today I finally checked with RAM tester and saw the numbers (no errors, just too much speed) - a reset of "Case open" status and F10 and this is settled. No more exacerbation of PSANHost problems with this. Even better - Since at least here .01 and .05 versions do not function properly, I downloaded .04 version from Sooftware (thank you @AstroSkipper) and no more PSANHost crashes! It also installed very quickly compared to .01 or .05 (which even failed more times than not). Peace again! Suh-weet! Well the end of that chapter came rather abruptly - PSANHost crash (and recovery) @ 16:51. At 16:24 was the first self-update since installation (and didn't crash). PSANHost even crashes every so often while browsing (Serpent 52.9) looks like it's allergic to the browser or something. This whole debacle looks to me like some serious certificate self-made conflict while at Panda they claim XP superiority. We'll see if they at all bother to reply to Dave's mail.
  11. AstroSkipper
    I’m already working on a plan B in case Panda Dome 22.03.05 continues to be a nuisance. I’m currently observing version 21.01.00 on my second Windows XP partition, which I’ve never uninstalled or updated.
  12. AstroSkipper
    This thread is actually only for Windows XP users. I had written back then that version 23.00.00 is not available for Windows XP, and that much is clear. Okay. The dates have always been confusing with Panda. There is no official version history, nor is there a changelog. The only file that can be used is VERSION.INI inside the programme folder. However, the build date does not have to match the release date. I'll just change the date to the build date of 12.08.2025 in my main article and in the list of all programmes.
  13. Dave-H
    That's only for XP users, though. We discovered earlier that if you download and install the latest version from Panda on Windows 10, say, you get that version. If you install it on XP, however, it automatically downloads and installs an earlier version (22.03.05). I assume that is the latest (and probably last) version for XP. The build date for that version is 12/08/2025, which I think you thought was December because you didn't realise the date was in European format, so it's August 12th, not December 8th, even older than you thought! The current version is 23.01.00.0000, whose build date is 29/06/2026, so very recent. Nothing back from Panda support as yet. I have disabled the real-time scanning, which has stopped Panda interfering with the rest of my system, but the service is still crashing. In my case I can only tell this by looking at the Windows System Event Log. The service is automatically restarted after 30 seconds.
  14. sprktune
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  15. AstroSkipper
    Incidentally, one thing that’s a bit of a shame about Panda Dome – particularly for paying customers – is the lack of programme updates since December 2025. That’s nearly seven months. And here is my statement about the Panda support from January: https://msfn.org/board/topic/184730-antimalware-firewall-and-other-security-programs-for-windows-xp-working-in-2023-and-hopefully-beyond/page/86/#findComment-1284505
  16. AstroSkipper
    Yesterday night, I had a further crash of the PSANHost.exe process. I clicked the OK button and after a short delay the process was automatically restarted. The crash was related to the ntdll.dll file. But I couldn’t be bothered to look into it any further. I assume that since 2 July, Panda has been trying to load something that isn’t XP-compatible since there were no crashes previously. Just a theory, of course. But at least there was some self-healing.
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  19. Dave-H
    Well, I've reported the problem and had an acknowledgement back that the report has been received. Let's see what happens!
  20. AstroSkipper
    I reported an issue to Panda support long time ago. But I never got an answer. So don’t get your hopes up too much, even if you’re a paying customer! The reviews or comments you can read everywhere in the WWW state a non-existent support. I'm curious to see if they'll reply. Let me know if you feel like it!
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  22. Dave-H
    I see absolutely no grounds for assuming that they are dropping XP support. There could be any number of reasons for this issue, none of them intentional. Could be an expired certificate, who knows?! There's only one way to find out, and that's to ask Panda, which I will!
  23. modnar
    After oh so much testing - the answer for XP fltmgr is hidden not in Windows2003, but in fully updated Windows 2000; as XP is nothing but upgraded (poorly) Win2000 (best Windows ever).
  24. modnar
    You can also try sending Panda peoplez a report via web-form on their site. I tried and it said I don't have an account although anti-virus is activated. Hypocrites - claming XP support and then this! P.S.: And crash again at evening update. As the doctorb ordered.
  25. AstroSkipper
    Ok. I was starting to think I’d fallen behind. In any case, Panda Dome 22.03.05 has been running for months without any problems, apart from yesterday – but that was only for a few minutes.
  26. Dave-H
    Sorry, 'pattern update' probably isn't the right term in this case. It's the synchonisation of your installation with the Panda cloud data, which it does automatically every day. I simply forced a manual update, which appeared to work.
  27. AstroSkipper
    Sorry, but facts are facts. Insults are insults. They weren’t sugar-coated, and they weren’t moderated. Not even by you. From where did you get a manual pattern update of Panda Dome? And as I already said, there are some regular background updates in terms of catalog things. I think relating to ads and offers which might cause such crashes.
  28. Dave-H
    Stop the bickering please. FWIW I'm having the same issue with Panda Dome 22.03.05. As you say, the main service keeps stopping and then restarting. I have updated the Windows root certificates and cleared the Windows temp folder. The first instance of a crash was yesterday, 2nd July, at 1312 my time. There are other symptoms on my system, which may or may not be related. Windows Explorer is locking up quite often. It always recovers after being frozen, but it can take a couple of minutes. The taskbar is completely frozen during that time, although I can still open windows like My Computer. I have done a manual pattern update of Panda Dome, which did work. I haven't tried uninstalling it and reinstalling it, as far as I'm concerned that would be the very last resort. I'd be very surprised if this were the start of any withdrawal of Windows XP support, in fact, Panda make a big thing of the fact that it is still compatible with XP! https://www.pandasecurity.com/en/mediacenter/best-antivirus-for-windows-xp/ Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a support forum for Panda Dome, only the usual chat options.
  29. AstroSkipper
    https://msfn.org/board/topic/177099-which-antiviruses-are-known-for-a-fact-to-be-working-on-xp-sp3-as-of-2019/page/23/#findComment-1228779 For science? You're kidding, aren't you? I suppose you mean for killing my Windows XP installation. That aside, do you really think I’d do something like that for someone who upvotes personal insults directed at me? Seriously? I would suggest to ask your chatty mate. Maybe he can chat up a solution for you.
  30. modnar
    Well not so good anymore, PSANHost again crashed around 18:35 when it updated. The other times I manually clicked Start Antivirus, this time I let it be and it recuperated on its own. Hopefull it'll work, or something. Indeed. Avast for XP is fine, although bloated on the outside I always chose only the 4 shields in "Custom" installation and it doesn't slow down the system hardly at all. If only it wouldn't pester csrss (it usually shows the next day). Just try it OK, for science. You can delete it later.
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  34. defuser
    Yes, in this case, we are only talking about the "First Edition" aka "Standard Edition". On Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows Millennium Edition, the "KMIXER" replacement is no longer required. The absence of sound with VxD drivers affects all of these operating systems.
  35. AstroSkipper
    Is that supposed to be a touch of humour? I’ll take it that way, then. My thorough analysis has already been finished in terms of Panda when I wrote my previous post. No one with real-time protection. Except some unknown, paid ones from untrusted countries. I had a long, long go with Avast in the past. The last XP-compatible version is totally bloated and crap, even Avast Free Antivirus. I wouldn’t even bother analysing the tiniest little thing anymore. Avast has been a thing of the past for me for years.
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