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Windows 98SE on the lastest hardware

nicke85

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LLXX

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I don't know about ME, but I've tested a stock install of 98SE with 2Gb of RAM, which worked fine with only minimal adjustment (MaxFileCache setting in system.ini). Read the many memory-limit related threads in this and the subforum above for more information on my test setup, the experiences of other users with large amounts of RAM, etc.

The memory controller is the circuitry (usually part of the northbridge chipset) that controls the RAM.

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Strawberry_Imperial

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I see I will be sure to look into those topics.

so far when I was reading around before even before I found this forum.

ME needed to have the same thing fixed just like you mentioned "MaxFileCache setting in system.ini". And you were able to make 98SE work on a PC with 2 GB Ram that's nice.

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nicke85

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Ok there are good ideas for all!

I're just read in some magazine good chance for cheap hi-end PC.

It's branded machine from ASUS.

ASUS Barebone VINTAGE1-AH1- ID1 + Cooler + CPU for 149.99 euro

Ok lets go!

motherboard: Vintage AH1,socket 939,FSB1000,ATI Radeon XPress 200,4xDDR/400 dual channel,PCI-Ex16,PCI-E,2xPCI,S/ATAx4,U/ATAx1,2x5.25",5x3.5",Gigabit LAN,8 channel audio,and this motherboard has TV-out to

PC case: ASUS,300W black,silver (branded) forward panel:4xUSB 2.0,IEEE1394,1xMic,1xHeadphone,FDD (inside)

Back panel of case:4xUSB2.0,2xLine in/out,2xPS2,paralel and serial ports,IEEE1394

+ Cooler ASUS K81A 8LB3/ID1

+ CPU AMD Sempron 3200+ 256k for socket 939

IS THAT GOOD FOR BUY? ;)

Can 98SE work on this PC!? :}

I know this machine is hell fast because it has FSB1000. :w00t:

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glocK_94

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Well well well...

Officialy the motherboard doesn't support Win98. But the Xpress 200 chipset is supported by 6.2 Catalyst as it was said some time ago. The southbridge is Uli so that should ensure compatibility too.

The audio chipset (Azalia) is a Realtek. They usualy make drivers for Win98 but this time it's a Vista ready crap. So no drivers. However, it's UAA based (universal audio architecture) and I myself got a UAA integrated sound card and it is recognized by 98 as USB audio and works without any added drivers.

I don't know about the lan though and this mobo means PCI-e.

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halohalo

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SATA shouldn't need a different driver, ESDI_506.PDR should work fine since SATA is supposed to be identical to IDE at the software interface.

On some boards(ex: GA-K8A480M-9) , there is no PATA compatible mode for SATA controller in BIOS.

So ESDI_506.PDR does not work on SATA HDD, and you can't see SATA HDD in device manager.

Besides, SATA HDD will be forced to work at MS-DOS compatibility mode.

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SATA shouldn't need a different driver, ESDI_506.PDR should work fine since SATA is supposed to be identical to IDE at the software interface.

Unfortunately ESDI_506.PDR does not work with SATA controllers in native mode. Tested with Intel and VIA chipsets and I suppose it is the same for all others.

Maybe the required modification of ESDI_506.PDR is not big because the software interface to the drive should be really the same.

Petr

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nicke85

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Ok! but I don't need hard disk with SATA interface there is support for ATAx. :lol:

So which hard disk is better!?

HT0A33405 HDD 320 GB 7200rpm / Ultra ATA-133 / 8MB 103.00

ST3320620AS HDD 320 GB 7200rpm / Serial ATA NCQ / 3Gb/s / 16MB 108.00

ST3320620A HDD 320 GB 7200rpm / ATA100 / 16MB 106.00

WD3200JB HDD 320 GB 7200rpm / ATA100 / 8MB 107.00

Is there a lot of diferent stuff between ATA100 and SATA and uATA?

Which is the best buy? :hello:

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kartel

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Dude 98 is not gonna keep up to the technology , there's no turning back now, unfortunately.

Look at this, Core Duo is so smokin', AMD cant catch up with even 2 CPU's.

Check this out!

december022yt9.gif

december023rn4.gif

Thinks 98se can handle that?

*requires at least a 750 W power supply

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/11/30/bru...rce_quad_cores/

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BenoitRen

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Multiple core/CPU architecture is just the latest hype wagon. Those idiots just have to commercialise everything and push it on the home user. Some things should stay in the corporations.

Multiple CPUs exist primarily to keep your system up. The idea is that when one CPU dies, the other can still continue running the system.

Multiple cores is like having two CPUs in one. They did that because they didn't see how to make the single-core CPUs faster, even though they already are fast enough for everything. It's part of the perpetual upgrade cycle. They want you to keep buying their newer processors.

Then they advertise those dual-core CPUs as being twice as fast, even though an additional CPU only means an increase of 50% at most.

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glocK_94

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Please don't make this a "dual-core/dual-proc good or bad?" thread again. Better start a new topic for that.

Here, we're trying to find solutions to get recent hardware capable of running Win98.

So quadruple-core hardware with SLI nobody can afford anyway is not really what we're after. :angel:

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Dude 98 is not gonna keep up to the technology , there's no turning back now, unfortunately.

Look at this, Core Duo is so smokin', AMD cant catch up with even 2 CPU's.

Check this out!

december022yt9.gif

december023rn4.gif

Thinks 98se can handle that?

*requires at least a 750 W power supply

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/11/30/bru...rce_quad_cores/

Sorry glock_94

kartel you are boasting it is going to need a 750w power supply no wonder it is smoking, how you could cope with the noise from one of those things for any length of time is beyond me. You do realise the inefficiency of transformers and the constant load you will put on it via your hds,ram,graphics card, let alone your cpu/s etc just whilst attempting meanial tasks but there again it looks good in your sig and you probably do not need to pay the electricity bill. Sod the ice caps melting, and the climate change, when we all should use and need something approaching leaving a kw fire running all day when running full bore to save you time when you probably have plenty of time on your hands.

Back to the point, as already said "What exactly would we need quad-core for?

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